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Posted by Kytracid on Jan-20-2004 05:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
considering green velvet was the man in the early 90s, I'd say it's pretty cool that he's still in the scene. Also, you guys are all psyched for hex hector?? why?? why dont you bash on him.


2003:
206 Kai Tracid
217 Green Velvet/Cajmere
231 Nu-NRG
232 Junior Vasquez
238 Parks & Wilson
239 Taucher
243 Justin Robertson
249 Rank 1


Hehehe, isn't this the list that ranks Tiesto as number 1 ? Mmmm yeah, popularity polls don't mean squat.

Oh, and btw Hex Hector sucks as well ! At least he did when i heard him spinning at Limelight a few years back. I remember him playing some wack mix of Sisqo's thong song and the floor just cleared out. So does Junior Vasquez who's on that list...arrogant prick.




* Damnit, what's come over me ? I don't usually DJ bash...but i just can't help myself today *


Posted by Crazy Serb on Jan-20-2004 12:02:

quote:
Originally posted by SKELETOR


whats with the hate for green velvet?

i never herd any of his sets but i do like his production.


*figures*

wait til you hear him live, you *might* be inclined to change that post...


Posted by Skipper on Jan-20-2004 12:05:

I wouldn't consider Green Velvet to be part of the house genre.


Posted by Kate Manus on Jan-20-2004 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by tha_broad
LOL i used to go INSANE over La La Land when it first came out...then it got commercialized...but I still love it...Ive heard some awesome mixes of it, not that I can Id ANY of them, but Ive heard some wikkid ones...and i can say that Id probably still go crazy over it in a club (Im just wierd like that)


The *ONLY* remix worth a penny... is THOMAS KROME's!!! Soooooo hard... nice twist on it too.. sucks I had to buy the double EP for that track..

As for House... Green Velvet aka Cajmere... Cajmere is his housey alter ego I believe. I have seen him billed as GV sets or Cajmere sets.


Posted by EricVagrant on Jan-20-2004 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Meh...Don't think i could stand seeing him for an entire night. Might be ok if he was part of a crew of people from the chicago scene, but on his own...naw, not really that good to begin with.

Although Green Velvet - Flash ( Danny Tenaglia mix ) is an absolute stormer !


i agree with you totally... i don't have the urge to see him again either...

that danny tenaglia remix is a classic... great tune

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I wouldn't consider Green Velvet to be part of the house genre.


what is the genre that you think best describes them??? i don't think i'd classify them as house either... but then again... everyone has a different idea about what house is.


Posted by beatjunkie on Jan-20-2004 13:37:

Green Velvet is garbage, I can't believe anyone likes this freak.
Horrible live as well.


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by ShAwZy
Green Velvet is garbage, I can't believe anyone likes this freak.
Horrible live as well.


Whats so bad about him technically? You think that Dekoze is better then him? So how is it that he made the top DJ list??


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Hehehe, isn't this the list that ranks Tiesto as number 1 ? Mmmm yeah, popularity polls don't mean squat.

Oh, and btw Hex Hector sucks as well ! At least he did when i heard him spinning at Limelight a few years back. I remember him playing some wack mix of Sisqo's thong song and the floor just cleared out. So does Junior Vasquez who's on that list...arrogant prick.




* Damnit, what's come over me ? I don't usually DJ bash...but i just can't help myself today *


Well I do remember quite a few of you getting excited about his coming to Boa. All the house djs on the DJ mag poll fell down spots. Trance is "in" house is "out" now.
As for his sets, why do you have to make fun of him so much? It kind of hurts my feelings you know? Since this is a electronic music website? I get made fun of by some of my vamps for what I listen to but I was least expecting it here.


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
Well I do remember quite a few of you getting excited about his coming to Boa. All the house djs on the DJ mag poll fell down spots. Trance is "in" house is "out" now.
As for his sets, why do you have to make fun of him so much? It kind of hurts my feelings you know? Since this is a electronic music website? I get made fun of by some of my vamps for what I listen to but I was least expecting it here.


P.S. That "wack" mix got him a grammy dumbass.


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by EricVagrant
i agree with you totally... i don't have the urge to see him again either...

that danny tenaglia remix is a classic... great tune



what is the genre that you think best describes them??? i don't think i'd classify them as house either... but then again... everyone has a different idea about what house is.


Lol, Green Velvet is one man. He's pretty eccentric and ecclectic so I'm guessing that's why guys all hate him. I'm into that though I guess you can say. I mean just look at me lol.


Posted by beatjunkie on Jan-20-2004 14:30:

Ok
First off anyone who knows anything about that "list" will know it is a popularity contest and has nothing to do with any form of skill. Technically Dekoze DOES blow him out of the water, heck I probably do.
Second about your list, HE WAS RANKED 217!!

I am seriously surprised at how much credit you are giving him. Sorry, I guess I don't share the same taste in music as you and if you like him all the power to you. I have seen him and IMO he sucks.

Have a good time.


Posted by Kytracid on Jan-20-2004 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
P.S. That "wack" mix got him a grammy dumbass.


Oh no, a grammy...then it must be good !
Deep Dish got a grammy as well, so did seal, but both those tracks were weak in my opinion...i form my opinions based on what I hear, not what i read. Guess that's the difference. Anyway, hope you enjoy the show.

PS. I didn't want to start a flame war, cause my intention when posting in this thread was only to give my opinion based on my experiences. Don't take it so personally ( unless of course i'm actually talking to Green Velvet in disguise. )

Oh, and this 'dumbass' would also like to point out that Hex Hector won a grammy, but not for that garbage mashup of Sisqo's Thong song, but for "Feelin' So Good" J-Lo's highly overrated track...and the category was best remixer (non classical).

Grammy awards given to guys from the EDM scene just shows you who is trying to cross over, and who isn't. Deep Dish, Hex Hector and recently Bill Hamel have won for tracks that had commercial appeal...if that's you cuppa tea, fine, but please, using that to support your claim that he's good is just weak...

Got it ? Good.

2001 - Remixer of the Year, Non-Classical
Hex Hector
* Feelin' So Good (Hex Hector Club Mix) (Jennifer Lopez) (S) * Give Me Just One Night (Una Noche) (Hex Hector Radio Mix) (98�) (S) * I Learned From The Best (HQ2 Club Mix) (Whitney Houston) (S) * I Turn To You (Hex Hector Radio Mix) (Melanie C) (T) * Music (HQ2 Radio Mix) (Madonna) (S) * Spanish Guitar (HQ2 Club Mix) (Toni Braxton) (T)

Hex Hector, so underground, it makes me wanna cry....


Posted by Skipper on Jan-20-2004 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by EricVagrant
what is the genre that you think best describes them??? i don't think i'd classify them as house either... but then again... everyone has a different idea about what house is.


Ive always considered GV to be on the outer edge of techno. When I think of house, I think of bumpin, funky house, or classic, vocal house...when I think of GV, I think of the show at KH in 2002 and the Dave Clarke remix of "la la land." Totally not the same thing!


Posted by Skipper on Jan-20-2004 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
2001 - Remixer of the Year, Non-Classical
Hex Hector
* Feelin' So Good (Hex Hector Club Mix) (Jennifer Lopez) (S) * Give Me Just One Night (Una Noche) (Hex Hector Radio Mix) (98�) (S) * I Learned From The Best (HQ2 Club Mix) (Whitney Houston) (S) * I Turn To You (Hex Hector Radio Mix) (Melanie C) (T) * Music (HQ2 Radio Mix) (Madonna) (S) * Spanish Guitar (HQ2 Club Mix) (Toni Braxton) (T)


I do think Hex is a talented remixer. But no, he's not underground.
(Spanish Guitar is f'en awesome. very sensual remix.)


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by ShAwZy
Ok
First off anyone who knows anything about that "list" will know it is a popularity contest and has nothing to do with any form of skill. Technically Dekoze DOES blow him out of the water, heck I probably do.
Second about your list, HE WAS RANKED 217!!

I am seriously surprised at how much credit you are giving him. Sorry, I guess I don't share the same taste in music as you and if you like him all the power to you. I have seen him and IMO he sucks.

Have a good time.


Well why don't you admit that you don't like the genre of music he spins rather than saying he sucks? Honestly I hate what Digweed spins and the same goes for Tiesto...But I still think they're decent DJs. Anyone who can get a grammy has to be talented, and Dekoze can't produce. You gotta give GV respect as an artist. Though you might think his songs are cheesy or what not they're still extremely creative and genuine. Go to his website, watch his video...he deserves credit!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 18:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Oh no, a grammy...then it must be good !
Deep Dish got a grammy as well, so did seal, but both those tracks were weak in my opinion...i form my opinions based on what I hear, not what i read. Guess that's the difference. Anyway, hope you enjoy the show.

PS. I didn't want to start a flame war, cause my intention when posting in this thread was only to give my opinion based on my experiences. Don't take it so personally ( unless of course i'm actually talking to Green Velvet in disguise. )

Oh, and this 'dumbass' would also like to point out that Hex Hector won a grammy, but not for that garbage mashup of Sisqo's Thong song, but for "Feelin' So Good" J-Lo's highly overrated track...and the category was best remixer (non classical).

Grammy awards given to guys from the EDM scene just shows you who is trying to cross over, and who isn't. Deep Dish, Hex Hector and recently Bill Hamel have won for tracks that had commercial appeal...if that's you cuppa tea, fine, but please, using that to support your claim that he's good is just weak...

Got it ? Good.

2001 - Remixer of the Year, Non-Classical
Hex Hector
* Feelin' So Good (Hex Hector Club Mix) (Jennifer Lopez) (S) * Give Me Just One Night (Una Noche) (Hex Hector Radio Mix) (98�) (S) * I Learned From The Best (HQ2 Club Mix) (Whitney Houston) (S) * I Turn To You (Hex Hector Radio Mix) (Melanie C) (T) * Music (HQ2 Radio Mix) (Madonna) (S) * Spanish Guitar (HQ2 Club Mix) (Toni Braxton) (T)

Hex Hector, so underground, it makes me wanna cry....


Hex Hector got a bunch of grammies for artists he's worked with. What you call commercial bullshit is still what the majority of people out there listen to. You can't just say that one kind of music is better than another, you have to give all artists credit for doing what they're doing. I know tons of people who hate what I listen to, hate Carl Cox, hate Lawler and Picotto....


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Ive always considered GV to be on the outer edge of techno. When I think of house, I think of bumpin, funky house, or classic, vocal house...when I think of GV, I think of the show at KH in 2002 and the Dave Clarke remix of "la la land." Totally not the same thing!


Well what about progressive house or tech house? GV is tech house in my opinion.


Posted by beatjunkie on Jan-20-2004 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
Well why don't you admit that you don't like the genre of music he spins rather than saying he sucks?


Cause I've seen him live, it has nothing to do with the Genre of music. Are you sleeping with this guy?


Posted by brunette on Jan-20-2004 18:52:

^^^ hahahaha

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
wow i'm always suprised to see that there aren't a lot of house addicts in here. green velvet is one of the best house djs out there.


that would be a disaster if he was even considered to be in the same category as other house masters


Posted by Kytracid on Jan-20-2004 18:55:

yeah seriously, get off his dick already !
I'm not saying one type of music is better then another. I'm expressing my opinion on which music i like. I didn't say GV sucks, i said i wouldn't go and see just him. Hex H and Junior V DO Suck. Bottom Line. I've seen both of them spin a bunch of time to know this, and i don't care where they place on a friggin popularity poll.

PS. Seems you get rubbed the wrong way when people don't agree with you, but i'm sure i've read at least a few posts where you bash DJ's...so quit moaning about it.


Posted by Kytracid on Jan-20-2004 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
Hex Hector got a bunch of grammies for artists he's worked with. What you call commercial bullshit is still what the majority of people out there listen to. You can't just say that one kind of music is better than another, you have to give all artists credit for doing what they're doing. I know tons of people who hate what I listen to, hate Carl Cox, hate Lawler and Picotto....


A majority of people also listen to Britney Spears and Justin Timberland, should i be giving credit to them as well ? If you run with the majority you're probably never going to be in danger of having your tastes questioned. Personally, i've never been a fan of 'sheep', so i'll form my own opinion on what i consider bullshit.


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
A majority of people also listen to Britney Spears and Justin Timberland, should i be giving credit to them as well ? If you run with the majority you're probably never going to be in danger of having your tastes questioned. Personally, i've never been a fan of 'sheep', so i'll form my own opinion on what i consider bullshit.


what does britney have to do with anything?

the majority of people doesnt listen to green velvet or electronic music for that matter.

being a producer that peaked in 94 and being on any list is awesome. look even rank 1 was bellow him. no dj on that list is bad. they can all spin better than the tens of thousands of bedroom djs and club djs around the world. and they can definately spin better than all of you. so theres no need to hate. GV is first and foremost a producer. who cares if he has bad sets sometimes (bad meaning you ppl dont like it). IMO hes awesome. who cares if hes a little cheesy or retro. so is above and beyond, so is rank 1, and for fuks sake, so is motherfuking g&d. so fuk of haters.

GV is in the same league as van helden and thats saying a lot. u guys can hate hate hate all u fuking want. bottom line is, the lists dont lie. tiesto IS number one since hes the only one who can draw a concert by himself like the way he did at gelredome. i like ferry a lot more but that doesnt mean that tiesto is not more in demand.


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 20:33:

and all you people hating on him and saying he sucks dont even list your reasons. you just say he sucks. why does he suck???? bad song selection? bad mixing? tell me please. because then i can pinpoint exactly why youre so annoying about this.


Posted by beatjunkie on Jan-20-2004 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
why youre so annoying about this.


Touche'

Just go to the damn show already. No one likes him but you, deal with it.


Posted by DigDeep on Jan-20-2004 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
being a producer that peaked in 94 and being on any list is awesome.


I dont think anyone is arguing that. Obviously if you make that "list" you've got some skills. But i do agree with Shawzy (Matt) that it is mostly a popularity contest. I saw Green Velvet twice. He was shitty the first time (@ Summers End 2002) and pretty good the second time (@Smirnoff 2002). Hes one of those guys you either really like or dislike and arguing over this is as pointless as starting another trance vs. prog thread. I love some of his productions (La La Land, Genedefekt) over played, but still wicked to groove to! It seems to me he tries too hard to entertain during his sets rather than focus on stringing together a technically balanced set. Mrs. Spice, why dont you save you fingers the trouble and stop trying to convince people to change their minds about this guy and go enjoy his set @ System with or without TA's in your presence.


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