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Posted by Scorpio Rising on Jan-20-2004 18:30:

Don't remember where I got this from:


NICE GUYS FINISH LAST
By: Garrett Hols

It�s amazing that assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it�s not that amazing. They are assholes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT�S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen� until they get into what they�re after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what assholes their predators really are, they pretend like the asshole is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the asshole into a nice guy, but assholes will always be assholes. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the asshole. But she claims to love the asshole� now this is where the theory begins. She doesn�t want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the asshole right away, instead she will stay with the asshole. Girls are idiots. They don�t realize that the nice guy has been there all along. He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that. However, girls don�t see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their asshole boyfriend. But the nice guy isn�t THAT na�ve. He was trying to score with the girl he listens to all along. The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as a friend. A FRIEND. They don�t say, �Oh he�s hot� or �I want to have his children� about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don�t need it from the asshole. The nice guy gets the shit end of the stick while the asshole gets all the action. I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action� I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE� at least not in the women department. Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the asshole is because assholes ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, �Why isn�t he paying attention to me?� so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the asshole. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The asshole finally says, �I�ve let this beauty dangle long enough, time to boat this bass�. It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him� even thought all she has won is an asshole. Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a �listener� you can�t turn back. The girl will always go after the assholes because there are always nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a �listener� you cant do anything about it� just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get into her pants� ever. There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn�t work like that. The girl wont �come to her senses� and realize what an asshole her boyfriend is like in the movies� instead she will just go after another asshole, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you. Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren�t looking for nice guys� they say they are but they�re not. They are looking for the perfect asshole, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect asshole. All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the girls out there with boyfriends that don�t treat you with respect, that don�t listen to you, and that don�t care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your asshole to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself� because he has listened to it all.




I'm one of the nice guys...


Posted by butterfly on Jan-20-2004 18:31:

i like good guys.


Posted by BTG on Jan-20-2004 18:38:

i dont know why everyone says girls like the assholes.

i'm a nice guy and i dont have any trouble getting laid.


Posted by Shudder on Jan-20-2004 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorpio Rising
Don't remember where I got this from:


NICE GUYS FINISH LAST
By: Garrett Hols

It�s amazing that assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it�s not that amazing. They are assholes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT�S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen� until they get into what they�re after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what assholes their predators really are, they pretend like the asshole is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the asshole into a nice guy, but assholes will always be assholes. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the asshole. But she claims to love the asshole� now this is where the theory begins. She doesn�t want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the asshole right away, instead she will stay with the asshole. Girls are idiots. They don�t realize that the nice guy has been there all along. He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that. However, girls don�t see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their asshole boyfriend. But the nice guy isn�t THAT na�ve. He was trying to score with the girl he listens to all along. The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as a friend. A FRIEND. They don�t say, �Oh he�s hot� or �I want to have his children� about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don�t need it from the asshole. The nice guy gets the shit end of the stick while the asshole gets all the action. I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action� I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE� at least not in the women department. Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the asshole is because assholes ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, �Why isn�t he paying attention to me?� so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the asshole. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The asshole finally says, �I�ve let this beauty dangle long enough, time to boat this bass�. It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him� even thought all she has won is an asshole. Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a �listener� you can�t turn back. The girl will always go after the assholes because there are always nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a �listener� you cant do anything about it� just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get into her pants� ever. There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn�t work like that. The girl wont �come to her senses� and realize what an asshole her boyfriend is like in the movies� instead she will just go after another asshole, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you. Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren�t looking for nice guys� they say they are but they�re not. They are looking for the perfect asshole, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect asshole. All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the girls out there with boyfriends that don�t treat you with respect, that don�t listen to you, and that don�t care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your asshole to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself� because he has listened to it all.





I'm one of the nice guys...


wurd


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Jan-20-2004 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Maaz
It's not about being a bad or a nice guy: it's just the difference from having confidence (which some people seem to link with the image of bad guy) and beeing a bloody doormat (the good guy). Keep in mind that you can be a good guy and not be a doormat Girls also like new things: if you're just like the rest, you'll hardly get any attention. That's why "bad guys with attitude" seem to be young girl's choice. They have this "different" image, rebel, which calls their attention.

This is the essence, I can't be arsed to tell the whole thing... gotta go to bed


I fully agree with what you say here. You "good guys" can try to put it the other way around. Would you rather be with a fun energetic girl that always thinks of something new and entertaining to do, or with a boring quiet one that just sits at home and keeps having emotional issues? Good!=introvert. Besides, women want men who feel confident and who are able to protect them, not some shy kids who won't know what to do when something bad happens. Another thing that matters here is the approach. If you're "good", it's most likely that you're just shy. So when a girl has to choose between a quiet guy that sits in the corner or a guy that approaches her and starts hitting on her, she's gonna choose the latter. The guy that approached her is a dominant one, while the guy that didn't is not. The former can help her and direct her when she has problems, while the latter can only say "whatever you say darling". Besides, that dominant guy doesn't have to be a bad one, it's more likely that it's your jealousy speaking. Again, here you can try to reverse roles too. Are you more likely to be with a girl that starts talking to you or with a confused one that's shy and doesn't know what to say when you ask her something?


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-20-2004 19:16:

Bah, you all act like girls and guys are so different. Let's put it this way: You're at your friend's house party, which girl are you more likely to end up in bed with? The one wearing a black miniskirt and tube top that rubs up against you and whispers in your ear how cool it would be to do it on Jimmy's parents' bed, or the quiet one talking to her girlfriend on the couch and avoiding any eye contact with you?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Even if you chatted up the shy one, you probably wouldn't end up parking your meat in her by the end of the night.

Now the one you'd really want a long-term basis (assuming she's decent looking) is of course the shy one, because you know that when she goes out, she's not attracting as much attention as humanly possible and probably having some stranger fuck her brains out. But in order for you to have any inclination to go after her, you need to see a visible sign that she's interested, and you'll probably have to take it slow, there definitely won't be instant gratification (read: instant fuck).

Moral of the story is: guys like bitch sluts as much as girls like assholes. If you want your "nice" personality to be an asset, then don't go after the sluts!

Edit: forgot to add that said guys, after winning said sluts, continue to preach on about how said sluts are really wonderful people and are not actually whores, even though they are. See, we're all guilty of this self-delusion.


Posted by LiquidX on Jan-20-2004 19:27:

Girls like guys that treat them like the ultimate sh*t, cheat on them, lie to them, and rule them. Yes... and I've seen it hundreds of times, seen it with girl friends that I have, with the girlfriends of friends ( and this particular friend has tretead her like the worst crap ) still she falls for him.. the more a guy dont show respect to them, the more they follow you.. wierd.


Posted by Slylee on Jan-20-2004 20:08:

good guys all the way for me


Posted by DaveSZ on Jan-20-2004 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Verona^My
Dick/Jerk is a vague term that lacks explaination. Did they physically abuse you, verbally taunt you, what the hell did they do to earn their dick status?



This is the chillout room remember. :P


Posted by m0sh on Jan-20-2004 20:56:

Girls at youth like the bad guys more, and its more about "playing" than being nice...

but as they grow they preper nice guys for wedding


Posted by DaveSZ on Jan-20-2004 21:11:

Dave's rules for meeting nice girls.

How to meet nice girls:

volunteer work
library


How to not meet nice girls:

a bar
a kegger
a club

Of course I'm generalizing, but it usually holds true.


Posted by vmc on Jan-20-2004 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Moral of the story is: guys like bitch sluts as much as girls like assholes. If you want your "nice" personality to be an asset, then don't go after the sluts!


I couldn't agree more. Being a guy I find the slutty ones attractive for some reason...


Posted by BTG on Jan-20-2004 21:21:

Re: Dave's rules for meeting nice girls.

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz
How to meet nice girls:
How to not meet nice girls:



AKA how to meet borring girls vs how to meet cool girls.


Posted by Mrs.Spice on Jan-20-2004 22:18:

Re: Girls: Good guys or Bad guys??

quote:
Originally posted by UglyDave
what u prefer?


I like my guys good and my girls bad


Posted by Aya Brea on Jan-20-2004 22:30:

good guys all the way. i dont understand why any girl would want to go for a guy who's going to treat them like shit.


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-20-2004 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I think the simple answer to this question is that they date bad guys but delude themselves into thinking that they're really good guys.

As much as I hate quoting myself, I think this bears repeating.

No self-respecting girl is actually going to say she prefers the jerks - but that doesn't mean they don't fall for the jerks anyway. The question is just worded wrong.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Jan-21-2004 00:19:

in my weaker moments i have fallen for a few obvious jerks.. but now that i am older and know myself somewhat better i usually root for the underdog and good guys are mandatory.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-21-2004 00:37:

need my girls in between good and mad...they cant be mental cased bad girls and on the other hand they cant be watching disney movies and going to ballet classess every second...need a girl in the middle one that u can hang out with and bang when u get home from work...ohh and shes gotta be able to cook and clean and enjoy doing it



actually u know the truth..when i decide to get married im not gonna give a shit abt personality looks or anything like that..shes just gotta be able to cook clean do the dishes a bit of yard work and doesnt talk too m,uch....ladies interviews start tommorrow


Posted by Streakfury on Jan-21-2004 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by crchingtiger
yeah dude, a lot of the them do turn into dicks...even bigger dicks than the so-called "bad" guys...

but there are a few who don't...hard to find, yes...


Perhaps I should walk around with a sign. Then again, a mate of mine made a t-shirt he wore to a club that said something like "How would you like to fly??" and didn't get anywhere, so perhaps I wont be making any signs after all.


Posted by crchingtiger on Jan-21-2004 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
Perhaps I should walk around with a sign. Then again, a mate of mine made a t-shirt he wore to a club that said something like "How would you like to fly??" and didn't get anywhere, so perhaps I wont be making any signs after all.


lol
the time shall come where you will be "discovered" don't fret my dear


Posted by FrosT on Jan-21-2004 05:59:

Idea

I have my own theories and such on the whole good guy bad guy thing but first, what is this??? Guess who the original creator is? Its ME yayyy.... Now I understand that other peoples stuff is pretty much up for grabs on the internet but damn. When I see this I don't know if I should be happy or pissed. I mean I'm a "nice guy" and it�s not that big of a deal but I'd really appreciate it if people would ask. I mean even a nice "I like that" in an unrelated place, and then a direct theft would be ok. But I have not seen anything, no asking no comment just a jack. Id go as far as to host it and create it in whatever color and with whatever name you like, maybe even an original piece if you would ask. It almost hurts to see the piece like that; I mean the compression isn't even that good. Could you please remove it? If you want I'd be more than happy to put a nice border or something around it. Seriously that crop is hurting me to look at.

:: Original Giant Size ::


Posted by bluelimitd on Jan-21-2004 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Maaz
It's not about being a bad or a nice guy: it's just the difference from having confidence (which some people seem to link with the image of bad guy) and beeing a bloody doormat (the good guy). Keep in mind that you can be a good guy and not be a doormat Girls also like new things: if you're just like the rest, you'll hardly get any attention. That's why "bad guys with attitude" seem to be young girl's choice. They have this "different" image, rebel, which calls their attention.

This is the essence, I can't be arsed to tell the whole thing... gotta go to bed


Posted by bluelimitd on Jan-21-2004 06:23:

Re: Re: Girls: Good guys or Bad guys??

quote:
Originally posted by Mrs.Spice
I like my guys good and my girls bad


i love you


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Jan-21-2004 11:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Bah, you all act like girls and guys are so different. Let's put it this way: You're at your friend's house party, which girl are you more likely to end up in bed with? The one wearing a black miniskirt and tube top that rubs up against you and whispers in your ear how cool it would be to do it on Jimmy's parents' bed, or the quiet one talking to her girlfriend on the couch and avoiding any eye contact with you?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Even if you chatted up the shy one, you probably wouldn't end up parking your meat in her by the end of the night.

Now the one you'd really want a long-term basis (assuming she's decent looking) is of course the shy one, because you know that when she goes out, she's not attracting as much attention as humanly possible and probably having some stranger fuck her brains out. But in order for you to have any inclination to go after her, you need to see a visible sign that she's interested, and you'll probably have to take it slow, there definitely won't be instant gratification (read: instant fuck).

Moral of the story is: guys like bitch sluts as much as girls like assholes. If you want your "nice" personality to be an asset, then don't go after the sluts!

Edit: forgot to add that said guys, after winning said sluts, continue to preach on about how said sluts are really wonderful people and are not actually whores, even though they are. See, we're all guilty of this self-delusion.


Heh, my alter ego has spoken again


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