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Posted by 00soups00 on Jun-11-2004 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by webmeister
Best set evar



big call

but so very very very true


Posted by ���|E on Jun-11-2004 07:59:

I dont think you can really ask this question to be fair.

It all depends on the time, and those years he was number one he was for a reason wasnt he.

I dont know much of Oakie, BUT, its the question you asked which will be a problem. Its all personal opinion.

In 5 years, they will probably say "Was Tiesto the best of all time?"
As of today ....... probably. As of tomorrow ........ maybe.

Oakie was great, theres no doubt he was a tallented man, if you love him, then good for you

As for me, i think Armin will be the best ever, he's only 29 and already #3, He created Blue Fear, the "Blue print" for trance today, and the way he talks about trance in the future, where he wants to take it, and his radio show ASOT, only makes me believe he will be around for a LONG TIME at the top.

Either way glad you found what you believe to be the perfect sound


Posted by pimp on Jun-11-2004 08:07:

Oaky and sasha got me hooked... what can i say. They moved away from trance cause they knew the sound was at its highest point in 99. Smart move.


Posted by gilmista on Jun-11-2004 09:05:

as much as i love Tiesto and his 99 innercity set being my all time favourite, I must hand it over to Oaky. This man is the definition of the dance scene without a doubt, and is largely responsible for what it is today (as you can tell by his confidence to do wateva he likes with tracks like Starry Eyed Surprise) !


As 1990 is the year of the pig and 1991 year of the rat etc, 1999 was the year of the oakenfold. Not only was his mixing flawless, his track selection was out of this world. I heard he actually paid Ferry Corsten 750 quid for the Out of the Blue vinyl before it was released.. he knew what he is doing!!

hands up to this legend!


Posted by escee on Jun-11-2004 09:36:

More like, year of the gorilla


Posted by euphoric dream on Jun-11-2004 11:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
20-06-1999 / Gatecrasher, Lotherton Hall, Leeds:
00:00 01. Planet Perfecto feat. Grace - "It's Not Over Yet '99 [Breeder's It Is Now Remix]"


When I first heard that set, I would have been only about 14. I searched high and fucking low for that tune and one day I was talking to a good friend who said he got a promo of it ages ago and he didn't really like it(trance isn't his style). He gave it to me for nothing ( I gave him a bottle of scotch later of course). I was almost in tears when I recieved it. It now sits in my record bag and gets played to my whole street everyone in awhile.
No doubt the man was great back then he just sort of lost his way. I loved all of his 99 sets and would have given anything to have seen him play with chicane at the docks but I was to young .

Going to have to go see him play when he comes down here again and i'll force him to sign my not over yet promo.


Posted by stamper on Jun-11-2004 14:48:

Yep Oakey was fantastic, if not revolutionary. I think dj-wise, has been one of the biggest influences on the sound and growth of trance as a whole.

I'm surprised there are no Oakey bashers in this thread! Usually every Oakey thread ends with a flame war...


Posted by gumble on Jun-11-2004 15:11:

even I like oakey

even some of his latest stuff!


Posted by j�c� on Jun-11-2004 17:52:

oakenfold in his hayday made electronic dance music!


Posted by lethal on Jun-12-2004 03:55:

Question: Was Oakey the best ever?

Short Answer - Yes with an if....
Long Answer - No with a but....



Posted by 00soups00 on Jun-12-2004 04:36:

well said lethal


i think armin is better, and i enjoy his stuff more, and i agree he has done alot, and his radio shows kickass and are still going strong after 152 weeks in a row and still not stale at all, which shows just as much about the trance producers there are out there, as it does about armins delivery. i was just saying that Oakey's set at Gatecrasher is just the best live set ever in the history of trance and the universe.


(in my opinion)


Posted by Beemer on Jun-12-2004 04:52:

I think the title of this thread says it all.....was oakenfold the best ever, as opposed to is he the best ever... Yes, I think he was the best, in the late 90s...he was the best then, but imo he isn't the best now....i respect him greatly for what he did in the past, for sure so yes, in 1999 he was the best ever - he was the best of everyone who'd come along up to that point in time....but now, in 2004, i don't think he's the best ever - there are others who've done things after what he did back then who are, quite simply, better...

so basically....was he the best ever?? YES!!! is he the best ever?? NO!!!

(and just to add...Oakenfold was who got me into this scene...I hated the EDM I'd heard with a passion...but one day I was in sanity, and saw Oakenfold's Travelling - i had no clue who he was, and no interest in the genre, but a lil voice in my head told me i needed to get that cd...so i did, and it started me on the path i'm still on now but, i most definitely wouldn't buy the stuff he produces now....for me, he's had his day...but he deserves much respect for how he was in his day!!)


Posted by 00soups00 on Jun-12-2004 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Beemer
so basically....was he the best ever?? YES!!! is he the best ever?? NO!!!

(and just to add...Oakenfold was who got me into this scene...I hated the EDM I'd heard with a passion...but one day I was in sanity, and saw Oakenfold's Travelling - i had no clue who he was, and no interest in the genre, but a lil voice in my head told me i needed to get that cd...so i did, and it started me on the path i'm still on now but, i most definitely wouldn't buy the stuff he produces now....for me, he's had his day...but he deserves much respect for how he was in his day!!)



well said beemer..

btw - why "dont you wanna go overseas" ??? (referring to your avatar description)


Posted by gumble on Jun-12-2004 06:00:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
(in my opinion)


yes, very much so.


Posted by Beemer on Jun-12-2004 06:09:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
well said beemer..

btw - why "dont you wanna go overseas" ??? (referring to your avatar description)


because the time to leave is really just around the corner now....it's a whole different ball-game to sitting here in my comfort zone planning the trip - now i actually have to DO it.... i'm going for a year - that's not a small thing...it's a strange feeling leaving all that's familiar and not knowing what awaits me for the next 365 days....it's something i need to do, but it's a tad scarey... it's not that i have a perfect life here and don't wanna leave it (my life here is def not perfect)....it's the whole "better the devil u know" thing....my comfort zone isn't anything amazing...but regardless, it's comforting.....leaving that and going out into the great unknown isn't easy.....doesn't mean i'm not excited tho


Posted by gumble on Jun-12-2004 06:11:

ive got gatecrasher one on atm


yer, rockin!


Posted by 00soups00 on Jun-12-2004 06:44:

gotcha now Beemer..

will be going on my overseas trip for an undisclosed amount of time when i get the cash to spend over there...

good luck....




i cant find my Oakey - Gatecrasher Set

who can donate me the mp3?


Posted by Philby on Jun-12-2004 06:59:

surely it would be pretty popular on soulseek or something? i got mine from audio galaxy, those were the days


Posted by gumble on Jun-12-2004 11:22:

haha

big ups the audiogalaxy days!


Posted by ONION on Jun-13-2004 00:53:

/me plays Virus - Sun *cawwwf*


Posted by Romp on Jun-14-2004 07:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
20-06-1999 / Gatecrasher, Lotherton Hall, Leeds:
00:00 01. Planet Perfecto feat. Grace - "It's Not Over Yet '99 [Breeder's It Is Now Remix]"
10:57 02. Space Manoeuvres - "Stage One [Tilt's Apollo 11 Mix]"
17:34 03. AMbassador - "The Fade [Fade Mix]"
21:55 04. Mara - "One [Hamel's Implant Remix]"
29:01 05. Space Brothers - "Forgiven [Origin Mix]"
28:24 06. Mauro Picotto - "Lizard"
46:04 07. Jon Vesta - "Gull"
52:36 08. Tekknova - "Last Trip To Paradise"
57:59 09. Art of Trance - "Madagascar [Ferry Corsten Remix]"
61:56 10. Push - "Universal Nation [Ferry Corsten Remix]"
66:10 11. Olmec Heads - "Spritualized [Astral Mix]"
71:51 12. Space Brothers - "Heaven Will Come [Olmec Heads Vocal Dub]"
78:50 13. CJ Bolland - "The Prophet"
-----
86:08



Thats the Gatecrasher set, imo THE best 86 mins of driving euphoric trance in 1 single hit i have ever heard.

AND PETE TONG in the middle of it:

"I said nice one bruvva"

"I SAID NICE ONEEEEEEEEE"

hahah id give away a lot to be there that nite.

Like Matt_A said Oakie @ china was playing breaks, but was still able to capture this underlying beat, drivy beat throughout the whole set, that towards the end just explodes with skip raiders.

I have respect for Oakenfold, he moved on, he got the best he thought he could get out of the sound so he moved on. Sure he hasnt found the same success, but only time will tell, but i have a feeling a true artist like oakenfold will only be kept down for so long.


yep this was the set that got me into trance too... best set ever. Unfortunately it has gotten a little stale since those days, its just not the same is it


Posted by webmeister on Jun-16-2004 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
i think armin is better, and i enjoy his stuff more, and i agree he has done alot, and his radio shows kickass and are still going strong after 152 weeks in a row and still not stale at all, which shows just as much about the trance producers there are out there, as it does about armins delivery.


I disagree .. I think ASOT is killing trance by doing the same thing week in and week out.

Hearing tunes over and over again for months before they're properly released turns most of us into jaded elitists who are sick of this track because it's so overplayed (even though it's only been out for a week).

Also there is very little originality or variation on ASOT, it's all the same limp prog trance and stale uplifting that we've heard for years. Methinks time to move on and do something different for ASOT...


Posted by A.J. on Jun-16-2004 05:08:

Word.

However, you could just use my method and never listen to ASOT. That way, every new tune you finally hear is usually gold.


Posted by Mangler on Jun-16-2004 06:59:

Hallelujah Webby!!! ... well said... we're over trax before the non-geeksters have even heard any of it (which is 98% of the people in attendance at a gig) .... the few good trax on asot that is


Posted by Spang on Jun-16-2004 10:40:

I have never listened to ASOT before really. I can hear most of it already when i mix in my room

Seriously, Armin does have good tunes but they are getting abit repetative. For me its all about the Global dj broadcast with Markus Schulz. That sound is the sound i think alot more people are getting into these days especially me. Love it

Back to Oakenfold. Not best ever but best sets so far in the history of trance music. I think Tiesto will be put down as best ever. Crazy productions, crazy labels and crazy concerts that had not been done before he did. He is the innovator more so today than any other.


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