Do you feel any safer because of the Iraqi war?

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Posted by arctic on Feb-03-2004 07:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
oh god-forbid we'd might provoke the terrorist, oh no that would defintely be the end of the world

I know I was always scared into submission from a weaker flamboyant party during my life.. I don't see why countries should behave any different.

Come on get some balls and confront the facts - terrorism exist before Bush and it won't go away unless somebodies has some balls to try and do something about it, and you know what, if you like em or hate him, Bush has balls.

If bush was serious about attacking 'terrorists', or threats to the US/West, then he simply wouldn't have chosen Iraq. Saddam posed no threat to the west, I frankly don;t think he would have been stupid enough to ever attack another country and risk provoking the US/EU. Why doesn't bush tell Russia to get rid of it's nuclear arms, why doesn't bush help defuse the Nuclear arms race on the sub continent, why didn't bush launch a pre-emptive strike on North Korea? Further to that, weren't most of the September 11 bombings planned in Saudi Arabia? Why hasn't bush done anything about that?

I'm not denying that removing Saddam from power to free the Iraqi people was a good thing, but that wasn't why the war was launched. I don't think Bush gives a shit about the actual people living there.

Bush has no balls, he's choosing soft targets who really pose no threat to the US. If he really was serious about fighting terrorism and making the world a safer place, then imo he would have gone about this in a different way.

Posted by A.J. on Feb-05-2004 02:01:

I certainly don't feel safer.

Australia's involvement in the war on terror has only made us more of a target for terroists, who previously wouldn't have even considered our country.

All because we support Bush and the USA in the "War on Terror".

Sure, USA's military action in Iraq and Afghanistan might help the situation in those countries (although this is a long way off), but this action will only contribute to more hatred of the USA and its allies in the Islamic world.

Places like Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia are increasingly hostile to the USA because of the War on Terror, and they see it not as an attack on individual regimes, but on their religion (Islam) and their whole culture. In my opinion, the USA is only serving to create more hatred and more extreme views in the Middle Eastern world by acting pre-emptively against Iraq and Afghanistan.

Let us not forget that USA once supported and funded the regimes in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and a host of other Middle Eastern countries.

Bush's War on Terror is only succeeding in breeding more terroists and more suicide bombers.

George Bush is destroying the USA's reputation throughout the world. I live in Australia, a wealthy, secular nation that has always supported the USA, and I can tell you right now that America's image is being tarnished irreparably by what is happening in the world today. Many ordinary Australians who once admired the USA are now strongly against it.

The sad thing is that most people are opposed to the government's actions, but it is the whole country and its people that suffer the backlash.

Posted by smokeape on Feb-05-2004 02:26:

I didn't feel real safe when the USSR collapsed; a bunch of loose nukes running around.
I didn't feel any safer when Iraq collapsed; a bunch of loose nuts running around.

I'd feel a whole lot safer if they'd bring the g*damned price of gasoline down about 50 cents!!!!!

[[[smoke]]]

Posted by DR86 on Feb-05-2004 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
I didn't feel real safe when the USSR collapsed; a bunch of loose nukes running around.
I didn't feel any safer when Iraq collapsed; a bunch of loose nuts running around.

I'd feel a whole lot safer if they'd bring the g*damned price of gasoline down about 50 cents!!!!!

[[[smoke]]]

word.

Posted by DR86 on Feb-05-2004 02:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Izzy
is that so hard to belive?

i will never believe it. ever.

Posted by WhoaNellie1487 on Feb-05-2004 02:48:

Yep,I do feel safer. That's one less terrorist.

Oh,and Dave. I have no idea where you get your news, but there have been letters coming back from Iraq,and they are from military personel. They've said Iraq is in a much better state than it was at the beginning of the war. SO, I'd believe them over you anyday.

Posted by hardcore trancer on Feb-05-2004 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Yep,I do feel safer. That's one less terrorist.

Oh,and Dave. I have no idea where you get your news, but there have been letters coming back from Iraq,and they are from military personel. They've said Iraq is in a much better state than it was at the beginning of the war. SO, I'd believe them over you anyday.

I have a piece of advise for ya

stop watchin CNN!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-05-2004 05:39:

Posted by rizo on Feb-05-2004 06:42:

Posted by DaveSZ on Feb-05-2004 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Yep,I do feel safer. That's one less terrorist.

Oh,and Dave. I have no idea where you get your news, but there have been letters coming back from Iraq,and they are from military personel. They've said Iraq is in a much better state than it was at the beginning of the war. SO, I'd believe them over you anyday.

As a person with family in the military, I'm always glad to hear some positive news.

You could pick up most any newspaper and read the same news as I read.

Don't watch CNN or Fox because that's tabloid fodder, and not news.

Posted by NeoPhono on Feb-05-2004 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
AHAHAHA.. your truly an idiot.

AHAHAHA.. You're truly horrible with grammar. Your comebacks are intelligent and insightful, as I've come to expect from you. I would also like to take this time to think you for turning every thread into a pro-Palestine/anti-Israel debate. It is both new and refreshing.

Posted by Cyrus King on Feb-05-2004 07:08:

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
AHAHAHA.. You're truly horrible with grammar. Your comebacks are intelligent and insightful, as I've come to expect from you. I would also like to take this time to think you for turning every thread into a pro-Palestine/anti-Israel debate. It is both new and refreshing.

i usually try to correct my spelling, and clearly know the difference between your and you're.

And when you are trying to correct someone about their grammar, at least do it with the correct words in your response.

"Think" you.

Posted by occrider on Feb-05-2004 07:11:

Again .... what's with the anti-CNN agendas? I've yet to see anybody make an intelligent case against CNN that holds any water whatsoever. If anybody can prove that CNN holds an inherent bias or "spin" on news stories or coverage that is any different from bbc, reuters, news.au.com, or any other like-minded world-wide news provider then I would like to see that analysis. I've noticed that memoryhole.org and similar sites who have "news you won't find on CNN" pull the same AP/reuters articles that CNN has on their very site 99.9% of the time. To be honest, this is probably the 5th time I've inquired without an intelligent, well-founded response, and it's starting to get old. And if you are going to respond, please hold the rhetoric and respond with a factual argument. Thank you.

Posted by arctic on Feb-05-2004 08:54:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
news.au.com

First I found out that my country was one of the best places to find people having sex in public, then I discovered that we're the biggest 'pill/party drug' consuming nation in the world. And now, to top it all off, we have our own domain name format. It's all too much. [atheist]God bless Australia![/atheist]

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