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Originally posted by rizen no idea what you guys are saying, but I love alizee

We love her too

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Originally posted by Heinz whats wrong with religion? some people want structure in their lives. and religion gives that to them. and there is a god-given consious we all have which is "right/wrong", which we acquired after adam & eve ate the fruit that the serpant tempted them into eating. thereby, their eyes were opened, and they knew good & evil just like god. eyes opened, as in, they saw themselves naked, but before, it was like natural, and beautiful, b/c is was perfect and godly. now, we are cursed by sin. along with physical pain, and mental. wars, and conflicts. hypothesis is, hardship is and was caused by the sin of our first ancestors. adam and eve.

Do you honestly think that as adults people are expected to beleive this?

P.S Santa Clause is fake.

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Originally posted by rizen no idea what you guys are saying, but I love alizee

We vere telling that even on tranceAddict... there were stupid guys.

This is so surprising that even a guy from QUEBEC is blaming on us, whereas everybody knows here that Quebec speaks French.

I think that kissing her boy/girlfriend in front of everyone is not a sexual act.
For us young french people, we mostly don't find that's a problem.

I think YOU American people are not enough tolerant towards those things: that's why you say that's immoral.

EDIT: yes, we love Alizée too, no problem

I think some of these posts are swaying in a different direction that I'd like to pursue, provided it's alright with the thread starter. I do not mean to ignore the original question about France's immorality, but I kinda feel that is somewhat an asinine statement, with all due respect.

But what I do want to pose the following question: Where is the origin of morality?

Now, about the muslim head scarfs, I believe that all large visible religious symbols are banned for use only in public institutions, not in privacy or even on the streets. Personally, I find it acceptable that a teacher in a public school shouldn't wear a huge cross or a head scarf while he/she teaches kids.

You think French society is bad! You should come to England! The whole world thinks we are scum cos we are! Morals? Ha!

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I think that its very inmoral to be doing sexual acts in front of everyone else.... while here in the US, if you sit with your girlfriend kissing or w/e, either @ school, the mall etc etc.. you will hear "GET A ROOM" a thousand times, and if a cop sees you, they would say " HEY HEY HEY, STOP THAT. NOT ALLOWED". Two extremes eh?

In England it is customary to shout "GO ON MY SON!!!"

I these attitudes are a lot to do with religion (or lack of it in our case). In America they are quite religious so certain things are not acceptable, yet in countries where there is no religion, we hav no such constraints so do what we please. Is one society better than the other tho?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Do you honestly think that as adults people are expected to beleive this? P.S Santa Clause is fake.

WTF man, Santa is not fake man, I saw him flying @ the speed of light on christmass eve..he coincided every whish/present I ask for..

Re: French immorality

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Originally posted by LouisLaBelle My last visits to France lately in 2003, 02 and 01 I am astounished by the lake of morals of the people. The amount of anti religion in France is amazing. Just this last year I saw 2 peoples having intercours in a alley in broad veiw and daylight of passers by. Also in Parisian city parks homosexuals regulalry have sex in the day in public veiw.

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Sex in Public and Nationality According to a recent survey of 6,600 people from 20 countries, Norwegians are more likely to have sex in public places than any other nationality. The survey was conducted by Cora publishing house (a publisher of romance novels), and questioned about 400 people in each country. The data revealed that 66 percent of Norwegians claim to have had public sexual encounters, in places such as offices, libraries, cars, beaches and parks. Australians came in second with 64 percent claiming sex in public, Greeks were third at 60 percent, Sweden and Argentina were tied for fourth at 55 percent, and Germany was fifth with 47 percent. At the bottom of the list was France, since only 13 percent of the French surveyed said they had had sex in public. This percentage was even below the 15 percent of Canadians and 21 percent of Americans who admitted engaging in public sex. http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/?ar...ivity&refid=027

I'm glad we beat the frenchies and the canucks on this one. Those damn aussies have quite a commanding lead though

damn australian heathens where are your morals you godless fools

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Originally posted by occrider I'm glad we beat the frenchies and the canucks on this one. Those damn aussies have quite a commanding lead though

Either it's because we're prudes or it's too damn cold!

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Originally posted by tathi damn australian heathens where are your morals you godless fools

poor guy, I take it your one of the 46% that hasn't had sex in public?

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poor guy, I take it your one of the 46% that hasn't had sex in public?

ask my priest

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Originally posted by maxxyme We vere telling that even on tranceAddict... there were stupid guys. This is so surprising that even a guy from QUEBEC is blaming on us, whereas everybody knows here that Quebec speaks French. I think that kissing her boy/girlfriend in front of everyone is not a sexual act. For us young french people, we mostly don't find that's a problem. I think YOU American people are not enough tolerant towards those things: that's why you say that's immoral. EDIT: yes, we love Alizée too, no problem

I know what you mean, just look at the whole Janet nipple thing from the Shitty Bowl

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Originally posted by tathi God has a major insecurity complex, he needs people to worship him to feel important

bwahahahaha!

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Anyways, very few people could come close to summing up my opinion of religion. Although various Hermetic philosophers and NLP practicers come close.

Here's a post I read on the Ultimate Seduction Yahoo group forum

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Great point. I know that, when you read what Jesus Christ, Buddha, and Confucius
said, none of these people wanted to be worshipped. Once you place them up on a
pedestal, what they did seems unattainable. But if you consider that they freely
walked amongst us, you can see that they wanted to serve as EXAMPLES of what we
can accomplish, if we only have faith and believe it so.

"Some people look for God too high up and too far away"
- Spencer Tracy, "Inherit the Wind"

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Originally posted by maxxyme We vere telling that even on tranceAddict... there were stupid guys. This is so surprising that even a guy from QUEBEC is blaming on us, whereas everybody knows here that Quebec speaks French. I think that kissing her boy/girlfriend in front of everyone is not a sexual act. For us young french people, we mostly don't find that's a problem. I think YOU American people are not enough tolerant towards those things: that's why you say that's immoral.

Well, most people I know in America think love is for the bedroom, not a place like a restaurant. I could care less, it's fun to see people kissing around.

wooot i have represented aus proudly :P gogo public sex

Here we are speaking of morals and how sex on television is bad, yet we galdly watch people get killed without even thinking twice. We live in a society where a child see's more than 1500 murders before he's 11 years old, yet we are so concearned about "sins of the flesh". Soon we'll all be sleeping with guns instead of women!

killing = good, love = bad!!

The French have contributed next to nothing spiritualy, moraly, economically, scientifically, or even artisticly (which used to be one of their strengths historically) to the world in the last one hundred years. And yes I've Been there and they seem to agree, and really don't give a damn! I think it will be their fall... again

Proceed to flame the noob

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Originally posted by Verona^My Well, most people I know in America think love is for the bedroom, not a place like a restaurant. I could care less, it's fun to see people kissing around.

ya but you forget most Americans are fat and ugly - who wants to see them frolicking around in public.

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The French have contributed next to nothing spiritualy, moraly, economically, scientifically, or even artisticly (which used to be one of their strengths historically) to the world in the last one hundred years. And yes I've Been there and they seem to agree, and really don't give a damn! I think it will be their fall... again

Theiry Henry?

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Originally posted by Q5echo The French have contributed next to nothing spiritualy, moraly, economically, scientifically, or even artisticly (which used to be one of their strengths historically) to the world in the last one hundred years. And yes I've Been there and they seem to agree, and really don't give a damn! I think it will be their fall... again

Pierre Curie? Sartre? Terence Fixmer?

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Originally posted by tathi Theiry Henry?

woooot go the gunners!!!

and the legendary jean pierre pappan (or however spelt)

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Originally posted by LiquidX I think that its very inmoral to be doing sexual acts in front of everyone else.... while here in the US, if you sit with your girlfriend kissing or w/e, either @ school, the mall etc etc.. you will hear "GET A ROOM" a thousand times, and if a cop sees you, they would say " HEY HEY HEY, STOP THAT. NOT ALLOWED". Two extremes eh?

I've never seen anything like that (like someone shouting to get a room), but I agree about the prudishness as compared to some countries in Europe for example.

Nudity for the sake of art is protected free speech in the US, but sex in public is not.

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Originally posted by occrider I'm glad we beat the frenchies and the canucks on this one. Those damn aussies have quite a commanding lead though

LOL Occrider great stats as usual man.


With all due respect to the Canadians, the reason they probably don't have much public sex is because they'd prefer not to get frostbite on their willies.

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Originally posted by occrider I'm glad we beat the frenchies and the canucks on this one. Those damn aussies have quite a commanding lead though

/me wipes tear from eye

I've never felt prouder to be an Australian. Actually, scrap that. A survey showed that we're the biggest 'pill consuming' nation in the world awhile back. I felt overly nationalistic when I heard that as well.

jean paul sartre, of course, forgive please. pierre and marie although are pushing the century mark. The whole 100 year thing that
I kinda hinted at was a bit off anyway.

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