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Posted by N|te-L|fe on Feb-24-2004 10:30:

I say everything is acceptable if done with a minim,um of intelligence..

Marijuana only slows down your reflexes, so just dont take any if you know your gonna be driving or whatever..


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Feb-24-2004 10:44:

Re: Re: I <3 Mary Jane

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
I would say there no more wrong with weed than there is with alcohol. But, down here at least, I find it is an underestimated drug. I enjoyed using it regularly myself until a few months ago, now I've cut down drastically. But I've seen enough people fuck their futures up with weed to say there is NOTHING wrong with it. It's a drug, so there's always the potential for abuse.


Yes, some people do take it to the extreme and start smoking like 10 joints a day. It really makes them lazy and dull. As for trying weed, well, not a very interesting experience if you ask me.


Posted by FuzzE on Feb-24-2004 10:55:

I love Mary Jane.

If you don't smoke, you're simply missing out.


Posted by Dopey on Feb-24-2004 11:35:

weed makes you stupid. more so than E, more so than Coke (im not talking about while you are using). Over the long run it affects short term memory and adaptive learning. As far back as the 2001 science conferences on drug use in cali and europe weed has been categorized as an evil that supercedes that of much harder drugs.

personally, I love weed. but after close to 10 years of smoking, it kinda sucks to walk to the store, forget your wallet, walk back, get the wallet, walk back to the store, open the wallet, see that I forgot to put my bank card in the wallet

but i dont think I will stop until I have kids, i dont wanna be forgeting my kid at the mall or something like that.

oh and it doesnt make your dick smaller, I have scientific method approved measurements so i dunno what that kid was talkin bout on page 1


Posted by astroboy on Feb-24-2004 12:21:

quote:
Originally posted by N|te-L|fe
Marijuana only slows down your reflexes, so just dont take any if you know your gonna be driving or whatever..


My driving skills don't suffer, but I'm just not as cautious when I'm stoned, because I just don't give a shit. A lot of my friends' driving actually imrpoves when they're stoned, in that they're much more cautious.


Posted by Dopey on Feb-24-2004 12:42:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
[color=limegreen]My driving skills don't suffer,color]


same here. but they sure do on pills lol.


Posted by swe_Trancer on Feb-24-2004 12:52:

It settles like glue in your brain and after a while makes you slower... I'll probably only try once or twice, maybe!


Posted by priveye03 on Feb-24-2004 14:29:

If a person only smokes weed 1 time or 2 times a week, there are little to no side-effects in the short and long term. The only real danger comes when people start abusing it. I doesn't make you stupid if you smoke very rarely, it doesn't make you not shower or become slow or make your teeth bad or whatever you want to say about it. In the studies of car accidents where there was weed involved, the scientist decided to leave out how many of those cases (people) were using other substances as well, for example alcohol. I went to the best high school in Oklahoma. I can say about 75% of my IB (like AP only harder) senior class in high school smoked weed. Even with that, we had a 98-99% graduation rate, around a 90% University acceptance rate, and basically the best scores on the standardized tests.

Weed is not chemically addicting, even though, as I have heard (never smoked weed before) it gives sort of a mental addiction in any case when you aren't smoking it you want to be, un-like coke or heroin or the harder drugs.

I went to a marijuana forum in Oklahoma City and was appalled at how the students there knew nothing on the subject. All they said is it was bad and you shouldn't do it. Also, the horror stories of some children whose parents took weed left alot to be thought about. For example, a girl said her mom beat her and did all of these horrible things, but at the start of her speech she said how she used to walk into her mothers room and see a plethera of drugs (speed, coke, heroin, MDMA, etc...) spralled out on the bed. Of course those drugs couldn't have had effects, oh no, of course not, it was just the weed.

But I'm tired of people just saying it makes you stupid. If it is taken in moderation, I re-itterate, there are little to no long-term or short-term effects. Food without moderation can also be hazardous to the health when not taken in moderation. An obese person has a much higher chance of a heart attack. When you step into your car and drive off, you might never come home because someone decided to drive as fast as possible and lost control over their vehicle and smashed into you head on. Medication taken without moderation can also be harmful. Take a whole bottle of aspirin at one time and see how you feel.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-24-2004 18:21:

King

smoking gear fucks u up.

makes u laugh ur ass off at the most ridiculus thing

then just lazy mode

then the munchies

but i cant see it being bad, some say its like smoking 10 fags at once, some say it does fuck all to u etc.


Posted by UnBracKo on Feb-24-2004 22:29:

If I have to study or to work I don't like smoke weed during the day, but at night sometimes I smoke my joint of weed and drink my beer.... and then go to sleep, whooo that's life!


Posted by astroboy on Feb-25-2004 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by priveye03
If a person only smokes weed 1 time or 2 times a week, there are little to no side-effects in the short and long term.


Personally even when I was only smoking a couple of times a week, I did notice some subtle effects. Just a slight increase in general dopeyness, and slightly decreased motivation. That was enough for me to decide to cut down even further. About a month down the track I didn't feel any side effects. Personally I think taking any drug is a learning experience, because it forces open certain facets of your personality that you didn't even know were there and get to know them. I know a lot of guys that were shy and quiet, then they took eccies a couple of times and ever since they've been all flambouyant and extroverted, the experience of having their inhibitions lowered forcefully by the drug made them realise that they have an outgoing personality inside them.


Posted by astroboy on Feb-25-2004 00:37:

Re: I <3 Mary Jane

quote:
Originally posted by MsGod
...can lick my ass...

Melissa




For some reason I'm reminded of this song:

every night with my star friends
we eat caviar and drink champagne
sniffing in the v.i.p. area
we talk about frank sinatra
you know frank sinatra?
he's dead... dead!
ha ha ha!

to be famous is so nice
suck my dick
kiss my ass
in limousines we have sex
every night with my famous friends

nice

suck my dick
kiss my ass
so nice
vip area
frank sinatra

mother******s are so nice
suck my dick
lick my ass
in the mix we have sex
everynight with my famous friends

frank sinatra
to be famous is so nice
suck my dick
kiss my ass
in the mix we have sex
everynight with my famous friends
everynight with my star friends
shake your body like the dance
stupid smiles and autographs
this is a song for fans
shake your body like the dance
stupid smiles and autographs
everynight with my star friends
in limousines we have sex

mother******s are so nice
suck my dick
lick my ass
in the mix we have sex
every night with my famous
friends

suck my dick


Posted by priveye03 on Feb-25-2004 11:32:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Personally even when I was only smoking a couple of times a week, I did notice some subtle effects. Just a slight increase in general dopeyness, and slightly decreased motivation. That was enough for me to decide to cut down even further. About a month down the track I didn't feel any side effects. Personally I think taking any drug is a learning experience, because it forces open certain facets of your personality that you didn't even know were there and get to know them. I know a lot of guys that were shy and quiet, then they took eccies a couple of times and ever since they've been all flambouyant and extroverted, the experience of having their inhibitions lowered forcefully by the drug made them realise that they have an outgoing personality inside them.


Of course there are going to be special cases, but on the whole, the majority of people aren't goign to get any side-effects. And on your friends, people can change there personalities randomly throughout their life. I was shy and quiet until 11th grade and in a couple of days or two I just decided to be more out-going. Or maybe somehow they got an ego-boost that contributed to that. Or they realized that they (while they were high) had this out going personality that they had been supressing. There are many factors to consider. But I am talking about serious things like memory lose etc...


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Feb-25-2004 11:38:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
My driving skills don't suffer, but I'm just not as cautious when I'm stoned, because I just don't give a shit. A lot of my friends' driving actually imrpoves when they're stoned, in that they're much more cautious.


Some are less affected then others that I can agree ... but I'm not sure I would go to the point of saying it IMPROVES their reflexes....


Posted by astroboy on Feb-25-2004 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by priveye03
Or maybe somehow they got an ego-boost that contributed to that. Or they realized that they (while they were high) had this out going personality that they had been supressing.

That's exactly what I meant... in fact thats what I said in different words. I wasn't arguing with your point, I was just making a separate one about how drugs can be a positive thing because they make you explore yourself.

quote:
But I am talking about serious things like memory lose etc...

Here I'd have to agree also. Serious effects don't occur unless you smoke heavily over a prolonged period of time. But most of my friends who smoke lightly but regularly agree with me that you can feel subtle effects... dunno I guess it could be some kind of placebo effect, but i doubt it.


Posted by astroboy on Feb-25-2004 12:27:

quote:
Originally posted by N|te-L|fe
Some are less affected then others that I can agree ... but I'm not sure I would go to the point of saying it IMPROVES their reflexes....


Probably doesn't improve their reflexes, its just they drive like maniacs usually, and the weed makes them a bit more paranoid and cautious.


Posted by T_2199 on Feb-25-2004 12:58:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Personally even when I was only smoking a couple of times a week, I did notice some subtle effects. Just a slight increase in general dopeyness, and slightly decreased motivation. That was enough for me to decide to cut down even further. About a month down the track I didn't feel any side effects. Personally I think taking any drug is a learning experience, because it forces open certain facets of your personality that you didn't even know were there and get to know them. I know a lot of guys that were shy and quiet, then they took eccies a couple of times and ever since they've been all flambouyant and extroverted, the experience of having their inhibitions lowered forcefully by the drug made them realise that they have an outgoing personality inside them.


Youre absolutly right. I was in the same situation like you smoking 3 joints everyday :/.

I smoke now only weekends the problem is ALL of my friends are smoking weed so everytime I visit them theyre smoking joints in front of me its damn hard to say no then...
I mean theyre not trying to persuade me but still..


Posted by priveye03 on Feb-25-2004 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
That's exactly what I meant... in fact thats what I said in different words. I wasn't arguing with your point, I was just making a separate one about how drugs can be a positive thing because they make you explore yourself.


Here I'd have to agree also. Serious effects don't occur unless you smoke heavily over a prolonged period of time. But most of my friends who smoke lightly but regularly agree with me that you can feel subtle effects... dunno I guess it could be some kind of placebo effect, but i doubt it.


Alright, I took it out of context then. Agreed

I'm suprised it took someone so long to respond in favor of marijuana in this debate. Was I the first one?


Posted by caddyshack on Feb-25-2004 21:40:

my roomate smokes weed. he doesn't go to class, forgets when his tests are, is late to work everyday, does nothing but play computer games and watch TV ALL day. GPA.. 0.7


Posted by swe_Trancer on Feb-25-2004 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by caddyshack
my roomate smokes weed. he doesn't go to class, forgets when his tests are, is late to work everyday, does nothing but play computer games and watch TV ALL day. GPA.. 0.7



sounds pretty much like me...even though i've never smoked it and rarely drink...but anyways, that's probably what happends if you smoke it to damn often


Posted by astroboy on Feb-26-2004 11:11:

quote:
Originally posted by priveye03
Alright, I took it out of context then. Agreed

I'm suprised it took someone so long to respond in favor of marijuana in this debate. Was I the first one?


I think you were. So much of the world is brainwashed by false anti-drug propaganda.


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