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Posted by Kamikaze Badger on Mar-02-2004 13:24:
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Originally posted by DRM
make the fucking wench a vocal trance cd |
Took the words right out of my mouth. Then again, these are people who think that DJ's are just people who sit up at a booth and play songs, and don't have a clue wtf I'm talking about when I'm asking what brand of mixer they're using and if they know what BPM(beats per minute, duh) stands for. Fucking n00blets. They hear a bit of shit trance and then judge trance by it. One day at school, because it was my b-day, I was allowed to get online and go to DI to start up a stream, and they had some guy mixing live right in the studio. I put it on, and only 1 person other then me liked it. The rest were a bunch of fucking jocks who think that rap is the only good music genre in the world.
Posted by smallSHEEP on Mar-02-2004 13:30:
Re: Re: uhm
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Originally posted by Boomer187
dj sammy is a girl...
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Well duh, no man has a voice that high
Posted by whiskers on Mar-02-2004 14:12:
k. new ta fad!
along with sasha being a chick, dj sammy is one too! 
Posted by jdat on Mar-02-2004 14:25:
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Originally posted by whiskers
k. new ta fad!
along with sasha being a chick, dj sammy is one too! |
and so is whiskers 
speaking of general music culture. Most people are CLUELESS. They can't even make disctinctions between good and bad rnb/hip or pop. If it's on the radio it's good enough for them. They consider all the rest to be garbage. Don't believe they'll have a clue about techno when they don't even know what underground hip hop or what punk music is or what not.
Posted by Lira on Mar-02-2004 14:28:
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Originally posted by BTG
do you people honestly expect everyone to know what actual techno is? |
Posted by trewqy on Mar-02-2004 14:38:
We have trance listeners who think DJ SAMMY is techno..so dont mind her.
The whole world thinks any EDM is techno.(well except hip hop of course)
SO why bother!!
Hell i didnt know what techno was until 2000.
Posted by Lira on Mar-02-2004 14:48:
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Originally posted by Kamikaze Badger
these are people who think that DJ's are just people who sit up at a booth and play songs |
But this is what most DJ's do
All they bother to do is to beatmatch, and that's all.
Producers =/= DJ's... just because some DJ's produce music, it doesn't mean the concept of DJ'ing changed.
If only Dj's nowadays experimented a tad bit more
Posted by Roddy on Mar-02-2004 15:45:
Girls who try to participate in music conversations and dont have a clue should be kicked, women no ur limits
Posted by jdat on Mar-02-2004 15:55:
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Originally posted by Lira
If only Dj's nowadays experimented a tad bit more |
Well unfortunately not a lot of djs are technical or experimental at all.
If they are experimental they are either :
1. Rap/Turntablism
2. Dub
3. house
4. Techno
5. list goes on a tad more actually
and not trance
Posted by DJ-Fuq on Mar-02-2004 16:31:
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Originally posted by jdat
Well unfortunately not a lot of djs are technical or experimental at all.
If they are experimental they are either :
1. Rap/Turntablism
2. Dub
3. house
4. Techno
5. list goes on a tad more actually
and not trance |
Thats because almost all normal trance isnt suitable for that shit. Its far too melodic, and less emphasis is given to percussion, so its hard to be creative and fuck about a lot with it. Thats why i prefer mixing techno/hard house/tech trance etc.
Posted by Tranc3 on Mar-02-2004 16:38:
So what if people like her are not the proverbial sharp tools in the shed when it comes to music? What is complaining about her going to accomplish? Are people like her bringing down the music scene?
Posted by Shad0wmaster on Mar-02-2004 16:49:
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Originally posted by Tranc3
So what if people like her are not the proverbial sharp tools in the shed when it comes to music? What is complaining about her going to accomplish? Are people like her bringing down the music scene? |
Yes. They perpetuate the existence of cheese factories like DJ Sammy and Ian van Dahl. I suggest you give the girl a CD of _quality_ vocal trance to listen to, and if she doesn't like it then let her continue to listen to fruity crap that she calls 'techno'.
Posted by Lira on Mar-02-2004 16:59:
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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Thats because almost all normal trance isnt suitable for that shit. Its far too melodic, and less emphasis is given to percussion, so its hard to be creative and fuck about a lot with it. Thats why i prefer mixing techno/hard house/tech trance etc. |
Not really, not even those 32-bar melody tunes (which are not that bad when dropped every now and then, instead of being played one after another). Although I'm a programmer rather than a DJ...
1) Build-ups: This gives you a lot of opportunity to play another music in the background and fill the "gap". Not to mention that (i don't know whether this is possible when you're playing live) but you could also play the build-up along with the final beats of the previous tune: this way, you don't have empty beats nor straight melody, but a combo of both (which makes the transition even smoother).
2) Harmony: Tunes with simpler harmonies fit better when played on top of each other (like Lucid's Out there with Robert Miles' Children) but when you have a music which is far too melodic, there's no problem if you play some tribal techno to fill build-ups or to strenghten the beat. If you have a sampler, or you can loop samples using something else, that's even better... a thing I like to do is to loop a random bar of an epic tune and develop it into a transition to another tune (usually not trance).
3) Crossing genres: Epic trance fits nicely together with nrg, hard house, tribal techno/trance, acid techno/trance... and if you have problems with the bpms, you can use the build-ups for this purpose 
I could go on and on with it
Posted by jdat on Mar-02-2004 17:15:
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Originally posted by Lira
Not really, not even those 32-bar melody tunes (which are not that bad when dropped every now and then, instead of being played one after another). Although I'm a programmer rather than a DJ...
1) Build-ups
2) [b]Harmony[/b
3) [b]Crossing genres[/b
I could go on and on with it |
1. and 2. are not technical points but something you should consider basic and essential. 3. is not a technical skill... to an extent.
Name me ONE trance dj that really goes technical in his mix? ( no flame wars please
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Technical as in numerous cuts, playing around as much as possible while all in control.
Posted by whiskers on Mar-02-2004 17:27:
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Originally posted by jdat
and so is whiskers 
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just when I manage to convince myself I'm a superior being, I walk into a door
Posted by Tranc3 on Mar-02-2004 17:28:
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Originally posted by Shad0wmaster
Yes. They perpetuate the existence of cheese factories like DJ Sammy and Ian van Dahl. I suggest you give the girl a CD of _quality_ vocal trance to listen to, and if she doesn't like it then let her continue to listen to fruity crap that she calls 'techno'. |
That's good and all, but you still haven't really answered my questions. So what if they "perpetuate the existence of cheese factories"? As long as music has been around, I'm sure there's been one elitist out there that said some of it was cheese. Did the cheese single-handedly bring about the downfall of the entire scene?
Posted by KilldaDJ on Mar-02-2004 18:15:
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| what a fucking idiot |
a quote from college today.
Posted by Greedy on Mar-02-2004 18:21:
Re: " I hate trance but i like techno "
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Originally posted by hardstyle
Ok so i had a conversation with a chick at my work.
Here it is :
"Well i know you like trance but i hate it." she says
"So why do you hate trance?" i asked
"Becouse theres no words in trance, but i like techno tho" she replies
" Uhm thats weird , you hate trance but you like techno?" i asked her
" Yeah at least in techno they sing and theres a couple of good rnb and rap songs with techno beats." she says
"?????????????????????" I started getting confused.
"Uhm sing in techno?" i asked her
" Yeah, i like Dj Sammy shez a good techno singer" she replies.
Ok that was the point when i gave up lol.
Well i live in Ohio, expecially in small town lol, so peoples have no clue about dance music |
another EDM elitist.
Posted by Noisician on Mar-02-2004 20:52:
Re: uhm
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Originally posted by hardstyle
it was tiesto- sparkles ( megikal remix) she said im listening to that robot music |
eh? she called that "robot music"? rofl! wonder what she would say about this then
Posted by whiskers on Mar-02-2004 21:07:
Re: Re: uhm
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Originally posted by Noisician
eh? she called that "robot music"? rofl! wonder what she would say about this then |
mmmm, nice, sounds industrial, who/what is that?
Posted by Tranceporter99 on Mar-02-2004 21:24:
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Originally posted by BTG
do you people honestly expect everyone to know what actual techno is? |
no, i know people who listen to PvD and Tiesto and Gabriel and Dresden, and they still call it techno, it pisses me off and i dont correct them becuase i dont want to look like a prude asshole
Posted by caddyshack on Mar-02-2004 21:52:
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Originally posted by Nalin
i think there's no point in trying to change peoples minds or prove anything to them - i think most of us try to at one point, but after a while you realize why bother, just why f*cking bother, what's it gonna change, nothing. |
ROFLMFAO
i have also tried to introduce people to trance and failed again and again
Posted by caddyshack on Mar-02-2004 21:54:
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Originally posted by Tranceporter99
no, i know people who listen to PvD and Tiesto and Gabriel and Dresden, and they still call it techno, it pisses me off and i dont correct them becuase i dont want to look like a prude asshole |
I call it techno too because if i say anything more specific they won't have a clue what i just said
Posted by mndeg on Mar-02-2004 22:37:
omg robot music
BEEP BEEP!!!!!! blip
Posted by mndeg on Mar-02-2004 22:44:
double post edit, and what song is that?
i like the driving percussion
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