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Posted by smallSHEEP on Mar-04-2004 12:40:

vocals (First 2 i already mentioned) :

Jan Johnston - Flesh (Tiesto Remix) or (Tilt Remix)
James Holden - Nothing (Original) or (93 Returning Mix)
Push vs. Sunscreem - Please save me (Original Mix) or (Push Mix)
BT - Mercury and Solace (Mark Shimmon Mix) or (Transa Mix) or (Quivver Mix)
Andain - Beautiful Things (Gabriel & Dresden Unplugged Mix)

I would do a search as there are a million threads on good vocals.


Posted by Master_Jay on Mar-04-2004 12:49:

Magik Impulse - Exposure
Pvd - For an angel
Binary Finary - 1998
Push - The legacy
Energy 52 - cafe del mar


Posted by cracka_DJ <> on Mar-04-2004 15:45:

the definitive trance track: Sasha - xpander


Posted by CortexBomb on Mar-04-2004 15:56:

5 songs...

Chicane - Red Skies (Original Mix) (treads the line between Trance and Ambient)

Gouryella - Gouryella (Original 12" Mix) (Uplifting hit it's peak)

Hybrid - Finished Symphony (Breaks meets Classical)

Sasha - Wavy Gravy (the new face of Prog)

Push - The Legacy (Club Mix) (just because no one else has mentioned it, my favourite Push song by far...)


Posted by The Peach on Mar-04-2004 16:48:

Dunno

Since you all know I'm a newbie, I can ask this with pride. haha...What is the difference between melodic, progressive, jungle, house, ambient, techno, etc?

i pretty much know that i like trance best since all the songs I have are in the "trance" category, although some could be mislabeled.

-The Peach



Currently playing in car:

-i see right thru to you
-as the rush comes
-beautiful things
-rapture


Posted by gumble on Mar-04-2004 16:52:

Utah Saints - Lost Vaguness (Lieb Mix)
Moby - Natural Blues (Katcha Mix)
Sasha - Xpander
Bedrock - Heaven Scent
Cass and Slide - Perception


Posted by The Peach on Mar-04-2004 23:48:

No one can tell me the difference between all the different styles of trance and electronic music?



actually, im also reposting this so it goes back to the top. haha.


Posted by mcleod on Mar-05-2004 00:16:

Mark Otten - Tranquility
Airwave - Lady Blue
Mark Norman - Phantom Manor
St. John vs. Locust - Mind Circles
Cern - The message


Posted by wwu.punisher on Mar-05-2004 00:27:

quote:
Originally posted by schism jman
Definitly has to be Darude - sandstorm


Learn to read.


Posted by WhooCares on Mar-05-2004 00:37:

Monkey Dancer 2

Amoebaassassin-Piledriver (Grayed out mIx)


Posted by GrimReaper on Mar-05-2004 09:15:

quote:
Originally posted by The Peach
No one can tell me the difference between all the different styles of trance and electronic music?



actually, im also reposting this so it goes back to the top. haha.

HERE is a some kind of guide to the genres in electronic music even if some parts there are more or less wrong or otherwise twisted.


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Mar-05-2004 10:18:

tiesto - traffic
jam & spoon - stella
the age of love - the age of love
bjork - hidden places (knick & the enemy mix)
grayarea - one for the road (gabriel & dresden's i5 mix)
sasha - wavy gravy
bedrock - heavenscent

note: most people with the contemporary notion of trance will tell you some of these aren't.


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Mar-05-2004 10:19:

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Learn to read.
piss-take?


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Mar-05-2004 10:38:

quote:
Originally posted by The Peach
Since you all know I'm a newbie, I can ask this with pride. haha...What is the difference between melodic, progressive, jungle, house, ambient, techno, etc?

i pretty much know that i like trance best since all the songs I have are in the "trance" category, although some could be mislabeled.

-The Peach



Currently playing in car:

-i see right thru to you
-as the rush comes
-beautiful things
-rapture



most are hard to define with words.

melodic (and along the same vein, epic) trance would be defined by the song "rank 1 - airwave", which is shit. basically without using musical terms I don't have the slightest about, the production work focuses on "melodic progression", synths sound all floaty and drawn out. yep thats what everyone calls "trance"

progressive - nobody can tell you what progressive is, because it's not a real genre. Leftfield started calling themselves "progressive house" back in the mid 90s. Apparently, a few years later, it sparked a fire up everyone's ass and they decided they would make a new "intelligent" genre. kind of like prog-rock. people will tell you gabriel and dresden are prog, james holden is prog, bedrock is prog, infusion is prog, luke chable is prog, deep dish... and then as if they weren't splitting hairs they'll say their are two different types "house and trance." This is when you realize you need to hook up with their crack dealer.

ambient - beatless or low bpm music, that simple. careful not the same thing as "chill" (wtf?)

techno - much hair splitting to be enjoyed here as well. All sorts of neat subgenres that only an adept technohead could tell "apart." basically a strong percussive groove. it makes trance looks sissy, lots of emphasized percussive instrumentation. Not much melodicness to it. adam beyer, dj rush, filterheadz, chris liebing, mauro picotto (careful, he lacks technohead cred).

drum'n'bass (jungle) - easily definable. The bassline is unmistakable as is the percussive patterns. really fast. Andy C is a big name....


Posted by Master_Jay on Mar-05-2004 15:01:

quote:
Originally posted by CortexBomb

Push - The Legacy (Club Mix) (just because no one else has mentioned it, my favourite Push song by far...)


I did.

Thats my best push tune so far aswell


Posted by CortexBomb on Mar-05-2004 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by .Agent_J.
I did.

Thats my best push tune so far aswell


My apologies, that's what I get for quickly scanning through!


Posted by CortexBomb on Mar-05-2004 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by The Peach
No one can tell me the difference between all the different styles of trance and electronic music?


The problem with doing this is that each person defines what the categories are to them, and how much subdivision is necessary.

If you like dance music period it's a lot easier to leave it at the 'major' categories, if you're particular each of those can in turn break down further and further, it becomes overkill in pretty short order.

Unlike some, I don't think the difference between, say Ambient and Chill is minor (I guess the best way I can sum up the difference for me is that ambient is like floating in ethereal space, chill is like sitting on a beach) but I can appreciate the fact that people who aren't overly interested in the two genres can lump them both together because they're both relaxed, sans bass, styles.

Basically, the more someone is into a given genre, the more likely they are to break it down into more categories, because they gain recognition of the fact that any category necessarily is including too many unique individuals to be an accurate description.

Philosophy of Music Categorization


Posted by The Peach on Mar-05-2004 23:06:

Smiling Frog

cortexbomb and superfar,

WOW! haha. thanks so much for the posts...they are super informative to this here newbie. i've only dabbled in trance, and I know what i like and dont like. ive looked at some progressive stuff and it doesnt float my boat, but hey to each their own...but i still might need to look into those peoples' crack dealer, maybe im on the wrong drugs.

anyway, techno doesnt seem to float my boat, i get a pounding headache when the music is just TOO damn fast. i guess i felt kinda out of it when everyone would have posts about prog, hard house, etc etc etc. thanks for clarifying it for me!

The Peach Princess


Posted by P`zazz on Mar-06-2004 00:01:

Dunno if anyone mentioned it already but

PAUL OAKENFOLD - SOUTHERN SUN (DJ TIESTO 'IN SEARCH OF SUNRISE' REMIX)


and also

Orion - See Me Here (Darren Tate mix)
Push - Universal Nation
Veracocha - Carte Blanche
Lange Featuring Skye - Drifting Away (Original Mix)
Klea - Tic Toc (Magik Muzik Mix)
Oceanlab Featuring Justine Suissa - Sky Falls Down (Original Vocal Mix)
Rollerball - Albinoni (Super 8 Remix)
Solid Sessions - Janeiro (Armin Van Buuren Remix)
Three Drives On A Vinyl - Greece 2000 (Original Mix)
Three Drives On A Vinyl - Sunset On Ibiza (Above & Beyond Remix)


Posted by CortexBomb on Mar-06-2004 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by The Peach
cortexbomb and superfar,

WOW! haha. thanks so much for the posts...they are super informative to this here newbie. i've only dabbled in trance, and I know what i like and dont like. ive looked at some progressive stuff and it doesnt float my boat, but hey to each their own...but i still might need to look into those peoples' crack dealer, maybe im on the wrong drugs.


No problem, I know, it's a bit overwhelming when you first get into the music to see all of the categories that people name off...until you've been into it for a while, and gotten a chance to actually hear plenty of examples of each style then it's difficult to understand what they all are.

I will say that you should give Prog a try in the future, perhaps a year or so down the road. It's a genre that tends to grow on people given time. It's also a genre that is much, much better in an actual club as opposed to on a stereo at home.

I still highly recommend trying out some of Sasha's stuff in any case, songs like Wavy Gravy and Xpander are (neo) classics of the genre, and have pretty good cross-over appeal.

Way Out West is another group that are proggy, but accessable (try Intensify (Part 2) and Mind Circus (Original or Gabriel & Dresden Remix) for starters)

quote:

anyway, techno doesnt seem to float my boat, i get a pounding headache when the music is just TOO damn fast. i guess i felt kinda out of it when everyone would have posts about prog, hard house, etc etc etc. thanks for clarifying it for me!


Techno is definitely an acquired taste, and is usually a bit much for me too! Course, the same goes for 'Hard Style' like Picotto, Marco V, and so forth.

Most people don't realize that 'Techno' is one of the few American dominated genres (Detroit)...I can't tell you how many people think that Germans 'listen to Techno', and (apparently) can't tell the difference between inorganic sounding music (the easiest way to tell Techno, at least by my standards, very ,computery') and the melody of Trance.

I guess some people only hear the bass...a shame, as they're missing most of the song!


Posted by eRRaTiK on Mar-06-2004 04:09:

some more for the peachy one..

Yahel - Voyage (Magikal Remake)
Jose Amnesia - The Eternal (Pulser Remix)
Plastic Boy - Silver Bath (Original Mix)
Hydra - Affinity
Solid Globe - North Pole
Andromeda - Fusion (Hiver & Hammer Remix)


Posted by The Peach on Mar-06-2004 05:39:

Cortex,
Thanks so much for the further explanation and song suggestions. i'm so excited to have songs to look into because of course, it's kinda hard to know where to start. i will keep an open mind about progressive too. thanks so much!


Erratik,
Thanks for the song list!!! i will surely look into those!


Posted by eRRaTiK on Mar-06-2004 06:22:

i'm not a great fan of progressive, but some tracks are outstanding. this one rocked my socks off..

Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body (Sander K 1999 rmx) (download from Sander K's website)

and one of the classic trancers:

Sander Kleinenberg - My Lexicon (Original Mix)


Posted by DJ Rat 187 on Mar-06-2004 22:19:

Re: trance virgin....well almost.

quote:
Originally posted by The Peach
Hi all! I basically know all the REALLY famous songs since 2000, but I went back and started looking into more trance and I've been growing in love with it. My husband is military and we are in Mississippi of all places...not exactly a place to get to go to decent clubs.

If you were to name 5 songs that would define a basic lesson in trance (we'll call it Trance 101). what would they be? Please dont say Sandstorm, my head might explode.


Thanks,
The Peach


It is far from being that simple
You can not generalize trance like that
It is a very very complex music genre and so are most other genres that are electronica.


Posted by FuzzyChicken on Mar-07-2004 00:39:

where are the best places to get these songs and others? Im sorta in the same boat as The Peach, and I see on the forums a lot of various songs that people should listen, and I just would like to know where you guys find all these great works of music.


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