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Posted by marsh on Mar-24-2004 16:11:

Ok, let's look at the facts...

If.. familiarity breeds response.. (Play the classic tunes that still send big fckoff shivers down your spine!)

And if.. curiosity kills the cat.. (Write your own tunes, do bootlegs, re-edits, mashups!)

Then.. You will have a combination of classic, cutting edge, and original music- and that's how you create your "signature style"

If you eat, sleep, shzit, trance (fairly safe assumption on this forum right?), inevitably, you'll meet & associate with people who can and do find fresh stuff. It's difficult to find an untouched gem but also entirely possible - don't close off to it.

But, my #1 peice of advise is dream! Don't forget the shivers down your spine.


Posted by JayKuE on Mar-25-2004 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by ONION
That mentatlity just indicates complete insecurity in your own musical taste.


onion-man is on the dot.


Posted by Slade on Mar-25-2004 05:47:

Mix cd's are overated.


Posted by Xavier on Mar-25-2004 10:59:

you are all a bunch of fuckin Eli-TiTs.


Posted by gumble on Mar-25-2004 11:05:

ONION, you are a champ.


Posted by Antistatic on Mar-26-2004 06:29:

Scratching in trance (and prog to a lesser extent) sets makes me want to punch the DJ.


Posted by matt_a on Mar-26-2004 08:37:

quote:
Originally posted by ONION
- Fucking roofles. That mentatlity just indicates complete insecurity in your own musical taste. You are saying in order to have good taste, you MUST like what the big name djs are playing, otherwise its shit because no one else is playing it. LOL what a classic.


My insecurity in what I play! Hahaha, why because i don't play trance much anymore, because the trance these days sucks balls.
So because I play everything from Hard Trance to fucking Hip Hop means i am insecure?
Who are some big name breaks DJs? Tell me, i don't know any, apart from Kid Kenobi who isn't that big. I don;t even download breaks sets, cause there arent many around, I buy what I like. I'm saying that avoiding what the big names play is futile. Maybe your mission in Djing is yourself, and making yourself feel good about what your playing. But remember a dj is there to please others, and give them a good time. If you can't combine the two then your fucked. Start playing to a more diverse crowd, i think diversity is what some 'elitest' djs need. Otherwise you'll probably just end up playing for yourself in your bedroom for the rest of your life.

For me there is nothing better than making a crowd of non-electronic music lovers go off. Probably because that's the hardest.
I think insecurity is
- Not trying new styles.

And in relation to big name tracks i was referring to trance. Name a few brilliant trance tracks that a big name dj hasnt played. From Armin to J00F to the prog trance guys. I'm guessing it wont be a long list


Posted by Antistatic on Mar-26-2004 10:09:

quote:
Originally posted by matt_a
Who are some big name breaks DJs? Tell me, i don't know any, apart from Kid Kenobi who isn't that big.

Adam Freeland, Krafty Kuts & A-Skillz, Meat Katie, Rennie Pilgrim, 10-Sui, etc. Teknoscaper can expand on these I'm sure.


Posted by matt_a on Mar-26-2004 10:38:

Oh how good are Krafty Kuts and A-Skillz. They are brilliant, their album is the absolute bomb album atm. Can't get enough!


Posted by ONION on Mar-26-2004 13:58:

quote:
Originally posted by matt_a
My insecurity in what I play! Hahaha, why because i don't play trance much anymore, because the trance these days sucks balls.
So because I play everything from Hard Trance to fucking Hip Hop means i am insecure?
Who are some big name breaks DJs? Tell me, i don't know any, apart from Kid Kenobi who isn't that big. I don;t even download breaks sets, cause there arent many around, I buy what I like. I'm saying that avoiding what the big names play is futile. Maybe your mission in Djing is yourself, and making yourself feel good about what your playing. But remember a dj is there to please others, and give them a good time. If you can't combine the two then your fucked. Start playing to a more diverse crowd, i think diversity is what some 'elitest' djs need. Otherwise you'll probably just end up playing for yourself in your bedroom for the rest of your life.

For me there is nothing better than making a crowd of non-electronic music lovers go off. Probably because that's the hardest.
I think insecurity is
- Not trying new styles.

And in relation to big name tracks i was referring to trance. Name a few brilliant trance tracks that a big name dj hasnt played. From Armin to J00F to the prog trance guys. I'm guessing it wont be a long list


You didnt read my post properly...

You stated:
quote:
if you dont play what the "big names" are you will end up playing the tripe that no one wants to touch


^ That statement above says... you are insecure with your own taste


Now I dont care if you play trance, or fucking iraqi trip hop... it makes no difference to me. My point is too many Djs making demos, are copying bigname DJs in their tracklists.... instead of playing tracks that push boundaries...

Too many DJ's are playing anthems, because they are too worried about whether they are going to please a crowd or not, instead of having the belief that the new track they are about to drop is going to rock the entire joint...

Picture this scenario:

The DJ before you played the shittest set of his life, and the dancefloor is absolutely dead... people are starting to leave.
You get on the decks, contemplating which track you should drop to get the crowd back on the floor.

1. Do you drop an anthem or a well known caned track ??

OR

2. Do you drop a fresh track, that gave you the biggest hardon when you first heard it in the record store... that you know maybe 1 in 1000 people may have heard the track???


Option 2 without a doubt is what I would play. Trust me, you will get a bigger response. Ask JulesPless if you dont believe me : P.


Posted by Lanithium on Mar-26-2004 16:16:

quote:
Originally posted by ONION
2. Do you drop a fresh track, that gave you the biggest hardon when you first heard it in the record store... that you know maybe 1 in 1000 people may have heard the track???


how often do u find a track like that which hasnt been caned? especially in trance.. i can only name a couple like that in the past 6 months.

from my experience.. in situations like that most of the time u need to drop a track which people know to break the ice.


Posted by ONION on Mar-26-2004 17:42:

Lanithium: A lot of DJs do that, drop a familiar track to break the ice so to speak... however thats something I wouldnt do... thats just me.


Posted by Paulie on Mar-27-2004 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by ONION
Now I dont care if you play trance, or fucking iraqi trip hop...







The bottom line, is you want a future in the dj industry internationally not just locally, you gotta think beyond the square you live in. As said in numerous posts, you gotta push boundaries, discover new tracks, and keep your sound totally different to whats already out there. Its about differentiating yourself from your competitors. This goes with anything you do. Everyone can have good equipment, every one can learn to beat match. But not everyone can pick out a decent record or be able to read a crowd. Although granted i love my anthems id have more respect for a dj who dropped a corker of a track that i never heard of



Also do you notice that although armin, tiesto, ferry and pvd are all trance djs there sets are nowhere near identical???? This is because they have created their own sound, from records they pick or get given or even create If all 4 were caning exactly the same shit, no one would give a shit about em.

To be different is good imo


Posted by 00soups00 on Mar-27-2004 02:14:

quote:
Although granted i love my anthems id have more respect for a dj who dropped a corker of a track that i never heard of



i would agree with that statement too paulie


absolutely love when u hear a corker you can't ID for weeks.


its beautiful, yet so painful at the same time


Posted by gumble on Mar-27-2004 03:14:

onion writes there a lot of wise words.

i think


Posted by Ocean-Glow on Mar-27-2004 07:48:

Combo of two id say as id like to get some new tracks from others experiences/reviews and old tracks or current played tracs might remind me to have a listen of any long time gold trakcs that are collecting dust in current time


Posted by matt_a on Mar-27-2004 14:13:

What you obviously dont realise is that many people do not have the time or money to go and find the newest stuff and play it before anyone else. I have not been record shopping for about 2 months, because of fucking year 12. The last new track i bought was Infusion - Girls can be Cruel. So should I not play it anymore because it gets caned??
It's all about who you are playing for. Most of the crowds I play for have never heard what we consider 'anthems'. I just wanna know a few awsome trance tracks that no big name has played.

I think its great you think im insecure about my tastes . . thats brilliant

The only thing im insecure about is the downhill slide of this forum, and the way its tending to go in the direction of ITM forums. It's fine to be an elitest, but "just remember trance is the pop music of the dance genre." - (this was a great quote, you know who you are! )


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