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There will be a response. Israel effectively and indirectly just killed more of it's own civilians, wait and see.
Would love to see Sharon in a box.
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| Originally posted by TranceGiant martyrs hardly plan direct and launch attacks. This assasination was ecxellent in that it gave a message to all terrorist leaders: Noone is safe from now on. After all, the leaders are a bunch of corrupt cowards who fear for their death while sending brainashed teenagers (except for their own children, of course) to die and kill others. |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King Im scared what the near future holds. |
The question is not whether or not Yassin's death will provoke retaliation; most assuredly it will. The question is whether or not Israel has adequately prepared themselves to deal with such retaliation - or are they going to wimp out under international pressure like the political pussies they are. I know I'm being brutal here but I'm also being realistic: what Israel needs to focus on now is sending a very strong and very fast message that any kind of large-scale retaliation for this will be squelched.
Of course I'm expecting more violence to ensue. But then, violence is the same old story there. If I hear Israel issuing some kind of public apology in the name of peace or something, though, I'll personally go kick the Israeli PM in the balls.
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| But the truth is im feeling much safer knowing this terrorist is dead now |
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Israel Kills Sheikh Yassin (Leader of Hamas)
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| Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^ And why is that? You are living in the peaceful Canada where you don�t have to worry about anything. |
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I am the one who needs to be scared of the consequences of Yasin's death, 2 of my friends got injured in a suicide terror attack last year in Jerusalem. And I visit this city ones a week. But the truth is im feeling much safer knowing this terrorist is dead now. |
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Yasin was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of innocent people, he was behind all of those suicide bombings. Israel couldn�t just let him continue with these actions, he must have been stopped, and there was no other way to stop him than to wipe him out. |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King Do you think Yassin would have founded Hamas if Palestinians were treated like humans? Or if those zionists didnt burn down and massacre his villiage in 1948 when they decided to form a JEwish nation on Arab land? |
You bet i think they are morally equivalent. They are both assassins, cold-blooded murderours. They both send men to kill (ie. they don't kill themselves).
The difference between them is that one is legal (?), the other is an outlaw. One sends troops in the name of Israel's liberty and the other sends bombists in the name of Palestine's liberty.
Sharon is a know murderor - back in the army days, and even now. I could dug up some of his curriculum in the net, but i think you can do that by yourself (if you don't already know).
i am egyptian and i was on the phone with my dad from egypt..and i could hear in the background alot of protests really loud..seeking revenge from israel n the US..so it is not just the palestinians that will want revenge...but alllllllll muslims...now this action might have recruited a million people or so...i fear the worst out of this..
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| Originally posted by rupert A very foolish move, Sheikh Yassin is now far more powerful in death than he ever was in life. He is now what every muslim admires the most "a martyr." |
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| Well, they're still scraping Hamas "spiritual leader" (that's a liberal media term...I prefer the more factual "Islamic terrorist") Sheikh Ahmed Yassin up off the sidewalk outside his mosque. Witnesses say Israeli helicopters fired three missiles at Yassin. The world will call this an evil act because Yassin was in a wheelchair. In case you don't realize it, terrorists in wheelchairs get some sort of a bye. Hey, it's only fair!. They got his two bodyguards too, thus compounding the terrible crime. After all, these two bodyguards were just trying to help a crippled old man. They were killed instantly. Good shot. Past Israeli governments had been reluctant to target Yassin, but not Ariel Sharon. They tried to get him once before last September, but missed. Not this time. My take? The Israelis know how to do this right. They know that Hamas and the PLO are terrorist organizations, and they don't worry about making them mad, or trying to appease them. They find out where they are, and they kill them. End of discussion. Israel is fighting for survival, fighting to stop the Palestinian homicide bombings that have killed 474 people since September 2000 (the majority of them Israelis.) Yassin had every opportunity to ask his followers to stop the violence. He didn't. And why not? Because despite what you may read in the media, the Palestinians don't want peace. In 2000 at Camp David, Yasser Arafat walked out after being offered a Palestinian state, the Temple Mount, Gaza, almost the whole West Bank and half of Jerusalem. The Palestinians didn't even make a counter-offer. The reasons are simple: if there was peace, then the Islamic terrorist leaders would simply be out of a job. The soft-on-terrorism crowd is worried that now Hamas will strike back. NOW they'll strike back? They're always striking. They're always out there trying to kill innocent women and children. They're attacking children in their schools, and where they gather for pizza after school. What in the hell are they going to do that they haven't already been doing? The Israelis know terrorists cannot be appeased, so they must be eliminated. This is what John Kerry and the voters of Spain can't seem to understand. I wonder where Yasser Arafat is right now? |
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| Originally posted by tranceaholic i am egyptian and i was on the phone with my dad from egypt..and i could hear in the background alot of protests really loud..seeking revenge from israel n the US..so it is not just the palestinians that will want revenge...but alllllllll muslims...now this action might have recruited a million people or so...i fear the worst out of this.. |
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| Originally posted by tranceaholic i am egyptian and i was on the phone with my dad from egypt..and i could hear in the background alot of protests really loud..seeking revenge from israel n the US..so it is not just the palestinians that will want revenge...but alllllllll muslims...now this action might have recruited a million people or so...i fear the worst out of this.. |
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| Originally posted by tathi rooflz |
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| Originally posted by Deejiuana I seriously love this optimistic and "imaginary feeling of security". Man, seriously, wake up, or use ur logic, u really think u are now safer because the guy is dead? When he was dead, he was "sendin" all those suicide bombers, ummm, just think of how many more attacks Israel will be HOSTING! |
Myth 1: The Yassin strike will escalate the violence
Nearly all news reports claimed within the first two sentences that the IDF strike is "likely to escalate violence," and constitutes "an enormous gamble by Sharon" that "risks triggering a dramatic escalation in bloodshed." (Associated Press)
This claim � which belongs on the editorial page, not in the same breath as the actual news report of the event � was so widespread that one almost forgets that it represents only the Palestinian position: The official PA statement characterized the Israeli strike as inviting "more violence and further escalation."
The absent Israeli position: Though terrorist efforts may increase temporarily, in the long run the elimination of Yassin will upset Hamas' leadership and violent capabilities, and serve as an essential deterrent to ongoing Palestinian terror. As Israeli spokesman Avi Pazner said:
His elimination will serve peace in the long run. He is personally responsible for all the most dreadful attacks in Israel. He was a dangerous extremist Islamic ideologist. He was danger to the entire region. By eliminating this threat to peace we will improve chances for a better Middle East.
Responsible news reports should either convey both positions, or neither.
Myth 2: Yassin was an impotent old man
BBC profiled Yassin as "a frail man who could barely see. His voice was thin and quavering." The Evening Standard prominently quoted the UK Foreign Secretary, who said "he did not believe that Israel would benefit from the killing of an old man in a wheelchair."
Actually, Yassin was in a wheelchair since age 12, when a sporting accident left him paralyzed. It's self-evident, therefore, that being wheelchair-bound never hampered Yassin's ability to orchestrate unprecedented terror � he founded Hamas in 1987 and proved perfectly capable of building the organization to its current strength from a sitting position.
Moreover, Yassin has had enough wherewithal in the recent years to direct dozens of heinous terrorist attacks, leaving Yassin's hands drenched in Israeli blood.
AP completely omitted any reference to Yassin's connection to terrorism until the final sentence of their report, and then only referred to Israel "blaming" Yassin for "inspiring" Hamas bombers.
Myth 3: Yassin was a 'spiritual leader' who deserved immunity
AFP, like most agencies, described Yassin as "the Islamist movement's spiritual guide," which suggests to a western audience that Yassin operated in a peaceful, contemplative realm aside from the violence, and was therefore unfairly targeted by the IDF. BBC went so far to say Yassin was "a powerful inspiration for young Palestinians disillusioned with the collapse of peace hopes." CNN calls Yassin a spiritual leader (unquoted), but then puts scare quotes around Israel's reference to him as a "terrorist."
Actually, Yassin's brand of 'spirituality' is the very ideological and emotional fuel that drives Palestinian (and worldwide Islamic) terrorism, the plague of our age. Yassin continually called for suicide terrorism as a religious obligation, and even said about himself that "the day in which I will die as a shahid [martyr] will be the happiest day of my life." (Al-Quds, July 26, 1998)
As Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Sofer said:
[Yassin] was not a spiritual leader. This term does injustice to the term 'spiritual leader' and an insult to real spiritual leaders. He was a terrorist mastermind.
Myth 4: Israel's strike creates a western threat of Islamic terror
After Hamas released a statement that threatened radical Islamic retaliation beyond Israel's borders, AP called this an 'unprecedented' threat, triggered by Israel:
For the first time, Hamas also threatened the United States, saying America's backing of Israel made the assassination possible...In the past, Hamas leaders have insisted their struggle is against Israel and that they would not get involved in causes by militant Muslims in other parts of the world. Today's statement suggested that Hamas might seek outside help in carrying out revenge attacks, since its capabilities have been limited by Israeli military strikes.
This is simply untrue � Yassin himself had long called upon world Islamic terrorists to join with Hamas in global jihad. MEMRI reported in March, 2003 that on the Hamas website, "Sheikh Ahmad Yassin called on the Islamic nation 'to strike at Western interests everywhere if Iraq is conquered.'" And just two weeks ago, Hamas announced its commitment to "the global level of the Islamic world" as the reason for its choosing British suicide bombers to murder Israelis at Tel Aviv's Mike's Place in 2003.
Its about time Israel grabbed its balls and killed this lunatic!
I hope to see the same fate with the rest of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aksa and Hezbollah.... I won't even get to the others ones just yet!
I believe Arafat should also be killed, or better yet, captured and sentenced to life in a cell somewhere in the Negev.
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer I cant believe how some people here think that Isreal will be more safe now since Yassin is dead!! |
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I hope he burns in hell
Reckon there should be a new approach to ending terrorist attacks that should be used in all situations...a unilateral surrender to the terrorists demands...
What?! Never know, it might work and less people will die listening to trance in clubs...!
Heh, I kinda agree with melech mike/shlomo hamalek/ilan yosef here. I mean, it's not like the goals of Hamas are a free palestinian state. Their only goal is the destruction of Israel. Like someone said, it's like saying that killing Bin Laden will result in a wave of retaliatory attacks against the US and that he should be spared. Well, leaving those guys alive results in waves of suicide bombers as well, so I don't see the big difference. Sure, we might see an attack or two take place (not like that doesn't happen every week anyway), but the long-term quantity of attacks will decrease.
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Reckon there should be a new approach to ending terrorist attacks that should be used in all situations...a unilateral surrender to the terrorists demands... What?! Never know, it might work and less people will die listening to trance in clubs...! |
. Of course, given that the former terrorists were resorting to the things they were resorting to, it seems unlikely that they would practice the same kind of restraint that society is currently practicing. 
Yea but why would terrorists carry on after they have got what they want?!
(By the way the comments were tongue in cheek)
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Yea but why would terrorists carry on after they have got what they want?! (By the way the comments were tongue in cheek) |
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Reckon there should be a new approach to ending terrorist attacks that should be used in all situations...a unilateral surrender to the terrorists demands... What?! Never know, it might work and less people will die listening to trance in clubs...! |
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Reckon there should be a new approach to ending terrorist attacks that should be used in all situations...a unilateral surrender to the terrorists demands... What?! Never know, it might work and less people will die listening to trance in clubs...! |
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