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Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 21:44:

ignorance is bliss then


Posted by Lira on Mar-26-2004 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
asiaphilia bad!
i think in america in the next 30 or so years the next generation of asian kids will be 70% mixed or less 50-70 and thats mixed as an asian girl white guy, the statistics are absurdly high because of media portrayals

You fucking know what? This would be actually a good thing... my great grandparents didn't want my grandparents to date people from other races, but they did. Result: my grandparents become more tolerant toward ethnic groups. Then my parents dated outside their races (my father looks black and my mother looks white, although we all know here in Brazil it doesn't mean anything sice we're all hybrids) and guess what... now I'm currently dating outside my race too. And, despite of her origins (yes, she is Asian blooded!) she is not less Brazilian than I am. This is how we're ending racism down here, and it's working pretty damn fine.

Stop being such a twat about miscegenation, because as I recall it, you're euro-asian as well: does it make you feel less special if there are others like you? You already have a reserved space deep inside my heart, if it makes you feel any better.
quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
oh and lucy liu is not good looking, imo lucy liu is like a test for asiaphilies
if you think lucy liu is hot, you are an asiaphile, shes like 5 on a scale of 10 for asians

Oh yeah? I think Luci Liu is hot and Ayumi Hamasaki is not. In fact, I don't think that girl from "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" was attractive either. What about this?
quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
looking at the signatures there are a LOT of people that have adopted asian kids or some white guy married an asian girl, asians in america (not counting indian people) will be rediculously diluted by white people in general it won't even be funny

True... you won't be able to be an arse anymore... how sad is that?


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 21:48:

most people that have 5 or more generations in america have native american blood in them, at that time native american women pretty much all married white men

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT INTERRACIAL, do you get it yet?
two people fall in love, great. Two people get together because of self-hate, racial stereotypes. NO
look at the mainstream media's portrayal of asian men then asian women
look at outmarriage rates

look at indian media portrayal of indian men and indian women (there are pretty much none at all)
look at outmarriage rates (very low)


Posted by Lira on Mar-26-2004 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
most people that have 5 or more generations in america have native american blood in them, at that time native american women pretty much all married white men

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT INTERRACIAL, do you get it yet?
two people fall in love, great. Two people get together because of self-hate, racial stereotypes. NO
look at the mainstream media's portrayal of asian men then asian women
look at outmarriage rates

look at indian media portrayal of indian men and indian women (there are pretty much none at all)
look at outmarriage rates (very low)

I'm really trying to understand what you mean, but I didn't get the point. Could you elaborate your thoughts, please? Remember I'm not in North America, so the more info you can give, the better it is


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-26-2004 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
ignorance is bliss then


i'm glad you're in a blissful state of mind then you asshole...


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 22:08:

a lot of asians really don't like themselves, they try to get rid of their "asianess", they dye their hair, get colored contacts (this is most evident in pornos haha), there is even surgery that makes their eyes more caucasian, eye-lid surgery.
asians are made fun of pretty much by everyone, and it's easy to asian bash because there are no black panthers to kick anyones ass, late-night talk shows especially do it a lot. I've seen several karate bruce-lee, dog-eating jokes on SNL, madTV, late night with conan o'brian, jay leno, and lots and lots of other shows.

there are lots of asian women that ONLY date white guys, a person i know that's pure chinese, his dad is divorced and his mom remarried a white guy, she is changing his name to an american name and neglecting him for her half white baby.

this is happening in asian countries as well, in japan look at ayumi hamasaki, she's had surgery to make herself more white


http://www.alltheweb.com/r?ck_sm=6c491a88&rpos=4&oid=-&rpge=1&ref=200340086&r=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.music.ne.jp%2F%7Eayu01%2Fhamasaki_ayumi%2Fterima_kasih%2Fayumi_hamasaki_t01.jpg


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-26-2004 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I'm really trying to understand what you mean, but I didn't get the point. Could you elaborate your thoughts, please? Remember I'm not in North America, so the more info you can give, the better it is


i know what he's saying i just don't agree with it. he is saying because white people have a certain stereotype of what asian women are that we have a high percentage of inter-racial marriage with asian women. now, that may be true, but it sure came off the wrong way.

basically he is saying that because white men see asian women as sex toys that they marry them, without any type of love interest and use them as sex objects...

which i don't agree with because the exact same thing could and is true of how asian men view asian women so its not something to suggest and use as a valid point...i'll elaborate if necessary..


Posted by Radagast on Mar-26-2004 22:12:

He's racist? Against what? Asiaphiles? I didn't know that was a race...

I agree with the guy, Asiaphile bad.


Posted by Radagast on Mar-26-2004 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
I've seen several karate bruce-lee, dog-eating jokes on SNL, madTV, late night with conan o'brian, jay leno,


Now don't tell me you're using comedy TV to back up your point.


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 22:19:

give me one race that gets more blatant racism in american media than asians
come on, if jay leno said something like "black people are like gorillas!" don't you think he would of been shut down completly?


Posted by Boomer187 on Mar-26-2004 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
give me one race that gets more blatant racism in american media than asians
come on, if jay leno said something like "black people are like gorillas!" don't you think he would of been shut down completly?


The arabic population. hell it even goes further than just joke son tv, there is violence IRL with them.

everyone thinks they got it bad, hell I am a white run of the mill american and I am discriminated against a lot. I odn't cry, I laugh at the ignorance.

but it si a sticky issue, especially when you try to define what the hell a race is.


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 22:25:

those are on extreme cases, when you walk down the street and see an average american-arabic guy, do you think OH NO HES A TERRORIST?
of course not

oh yeah, this is funny


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-26-2004 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
give me one race that gets more blatant racism in american media than asians


you know...i really don't see how you can say those kinda things. if anything its the asian community that creates their own isolation in society. anyone who goes to or has been a student at a public school can see that asians are a very close knit community and have to be the clickiest ethnicity. its not everyone else's fault if you feel introverted and unable to assimulate. we're all americans as far as i'm concerned. so stop trying to play the victim and go make some white friends...i've got lots of asian friends...its not a big deal, we're all people ffs...


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 22:29:

wrong, you probably live in california
oh and i love racists that go like.."im not racist, my ______ is ____________" girlfriend black
best friends asian
brother in law mexican


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-26-2004 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
wrong, you probably live in california


no...i don't live in california.


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-26-2004 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
wrong, you probably live in california
oh and i love racists that go like.."im not racist, my ______ is ____________" girlfriend black
best friends asian
brother in law mexican


blah blah blah...poor you...here...i feel soooooo sorry for you.

i've got two questions for you...

1. are you japanese, chinese, korean, etc...

and

2. are your parents 100% asian?


Posted by Boomer187 on Mar-26-2004 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
those are on extreme cases, when you walk down the street and see an average american-arabic guy, do you think OH NO HES A TERRORIST?
of course not

oh yeah, this is funny



eh, I think all of our prespectives of Middle easterners has been skewed. I noticed on a recent plane ride that people looked funny at a man with a turbin.

so i don't think there is much difference between your "normal" arab-american and your "normal" asian american or you "normal" african american.


I am guessing you are putting more weight on the asian discriminatino cause that is what you go through (wait, you are asian right??/) and so that is what you perceive. I am thinking if you hopped in an arab americans shoes you woudl see the samethings.


Posted by Arbiter on Mar-26-2004 22:35:

Better yet if you don't like the magazine you could just not buy it.

I don't get people sometimes.

Why do you have to force everyone to think the same way you do? And if they don't, why do you automatically label them "ignorant?" Do you have any evidence to support the hypothesis that their behavior is the direct result of ignorance? Why can't you just leave this stupid little magazine alone? Would that kill you? I mean FFS!


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 22:37:

originally my posts were about the perpetual foreigner, and i dont want them to be, ignore the comic
people looked at the turban guy funny because of the somewhat recent events of 9/11 which is warranted
when was the last time you heard an asian guy say HYAAAAAAAAHHHH and kick someone?

above post doesnt need a reply


Posted by igottaknow on Mar-26-2004 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
if anything its the asian community that creates their own isolation in society. anyone who goes to or has been a student at a public school can see that asians are a very close knit community and have to be the clickiest ethnicity.

you're right i taught in a multicultural program and this was one of the problems that came up in a review. Basically asian students weren't interacting with the rest of the group. Asian culture values acedemics over socialization while afro americans are the complete opposite. Either extreme isn't good.

btw, mndeg can defend his attitudes anyway he wants but he is still a racist in my book.


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-26-2004 22:40:

i simply going to say that IF you are perhaps part asian and part something else, and you had ever been to that asian country you would realise that you are discriminated against there as an outsider...

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow

btw, mndeg can defend his attitudes anyway he wants but he still a racist in my book.


i agree completely...people think that just because they are something other than white that they can't be racist...well...sorry mndeg...you are


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 22:41:

you are the racist in my book

wow, you seriously dont get ANYTHING do you?
Have you lived in a certain asian country for several generations?
If say german people have had a long history in china they wouldn't be seen as outsiders.
You expect to go to a foreign country and not be seen as an outsider?
hahahaha


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 22:44:

i guess this is what happens when you've been through media brainwashing and fail to see outside your little box
there's no hope for you


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-26-2004 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
i guess this is what happens when you've been through media brainwashing and fail to see outside your little box
there's no hope for you


i fail to see how i might fall victim to "brainwashing", but you cleverly escape it, if we live in the same society...face it...you're a stupid little kid that doesn't know shit about anything...i don't care what you say...that is what you are...

oh what, you're not a kid...well then you're a fucking immature adult that has problems with his identity and tries to blame it on the rest of us...boooohoooooo

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
you are the racist in my book

wow, you seriously dont get ANYTHING do you?
Have you lived in a certain asian country for several generations?
If say german people have had a long history in china they wouldn't be seen as outsiders.
You expect to go to a foreign country and not be seen as an outsider?
hahahaha


no...but i'm not asian. i'm simply saying that although you may identify yourself as chinese, japanese, korean whatever...you are not considered that by the people of those countries...you're american...i have a german-irish background...that doesn't mean that i run around calling myself german-irish? i'm fucking american...why can't you just be proud of that?


Posted by mndeg on Mar-26-2004 22:55:

have you not been reading anything? YOU ARE SEEN AS AN AMERICAN
to anyones eyes an asian person in american is ASIAN, that yamaguchi girl herself was proclaimed as non american when she won or lost vs a white girl


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