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Originally posted by nchs09 heal and toe only helps in races, not in the real world.... u can do a little heal and toe on f1 type gearboxes too, and they are automatic....

Some people use their cars for more than just commuteing.

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Originally posted by Twoces Some people use their cars for more than just commuteing.

well the whole point of heal and toe is to get the best speen in a corner and come out of it with as much speed as u can..... in public roads this doesnt need to be going on.. plus the car is for his mom, not for the track

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Originally posted by mndeg manuals are much much faster than automatics IF you are a pro at it

tell that to the NHRA top fuel dragsters... and the Funny car racers. And also convince formula one cars that the manuals are faster if you are a pro driver. Because they dont research this stuff or anything. Noooo never.

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Originally posted by getfoul tell that to the NHRA top fuel dragsters... and the Funny car racers. And also convince formula one cars that the manuals are faster if you are a pro driver. Because they dont research this stuff or anything. Noooo never.

drag racing, u dont have time to push the clutch and reach for the shift nob, .... so they use automatics, u change a gear in 1 second, by the time ur in 3rd, u would of lost 2 seconds or about half the race just shifting.....
F1 they us the SMG style gears. its not the same as the ones on the road though, they are much more faster gear changes, and the car doesnt change it for you if you forget, u have to do it or ull overrev and kill the engine.... as raikkonin did this weekend

rofl reason why most ppl think auto cars go slower is because they have them configured wrong as is this case:

Auto:
Horsepower 197 @ 7200 rpm
Torque 164 @ 5000 rpm


Manual:
Horsepower 238 @ 8500 rpm
Torque 159 @ 5500 rpm

the horsepower is 197 @ 7200rpm yes however you can change the auto so that it will in fact change geer @ 8500 rather than 7200

an automatic car is not 40lbs heavier, and formula 1 cars use tiptronic transmission - a combination of auto and manual

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Originally posted by -=M=- the horsepower is 197 @ 7200rpm yes however you can change the auto so that it will in fact change geer @ 8500 rather than 7200

Can you still take it back to the Mazda shop and them not whine about it?

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Originally posted by -=M=- an automatic car is not 40lbs heavier

This one is.

i thought drag racers drop their clutch to launch off the line...i didnt know automatic could be dumped into gear at 5k rpms

We have just got an RX-8, and I just received my driving license
I can't express in words how fun it is to drive. I'm an imbecile when it comes to cars, but accelerating to 80 km/h in second gear in just a couple of seconds just kicks ass. It's manual btw.

RX-8 are great cars, but be farwarned, if anything does go wrong with any of the 4 moving parts in the engine.... look for a very big bill. problem with rotarty engines is when they get fucked, they are totally fucked 9 times out of 10... Hello new block....but kudos are still in order to the mazda and ford engineers who vastly improved on the older versions of the rotary engine.

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Originally posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL quit being such a picky bitch. if she wants to buy you a damn car id be happy with whatever i could get, especially an rx-8. are you honestly going to be going that fast where a manual shift is going to benefit you. oh wow so you get away from that red light faster than the guy with the automatic.

re read the thread.

she ain't buying him the car she is buying herself the car. duh.

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Originally posted by nchs09 heal and toe only helps in races, not in the real world.... u can do a little heal and toe on f1 type gearboxes too, and they are automatic....

I wouldn't call f1 gearboxes automatic, more like semiautomatic, the driver still got to shift up and down himself.

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tell that to the NHRA top fuel dragsters... and the Funny car racers. And also convince formula one cars that the manuals are faster if you are a pro driver.

Putting a maual in a dragster would at least bring some much skill to the "sport", maybe they could make it interesting. At the moment theres wery little skil involved in pushing the gas pedal and holding the wheel steady

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Originally posted by TrAnCeAkI u cant even compare a manual with a automatic :P manuals are much faster and funner imo!

manual is a BITCH to drive!
yes i'm bitter... i have yet to master uphill starts

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Originally posted by LoCa manual is a BITCH to drive! yes i'm bitter... i have yet to master uphill starts

just downshift to get higher RPMs

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Putting a maual in a dragster would at least bring some much skill to the "sport", maybe they could make it interesting. At the moment theres wery little skil involved in pushing the gas pedal and holding the wheel steady

Have you ever seen the cockpit of a Top Fuel Dragster?? first off they use a semi-automatic transmission depending on the car sometimes it is pneumatic speed paddles mounted on the steering wheel. but they cant have the traditional stick shifter since there physically isnt enough room for it in the cockpit. as for the NHRA drag racers, they are not automatic either, some are manual and most are a semi-automatic slap stick shifter. which will have 5 or 6 levers mounted beside the drivers seat which he will bang down in sequence to up shift. They can shift much faster this way. Drag racing skill is more in the hand eye foot coordination and in the mechanical prowess. It is a completely different style of racing from F1 or rally circuits. where the rally and F1 circuits aim for the balance of power and efficiency and performace, the drag circuits rely shearly on pure horsepower and torque. they are two different skools of thought so it isnt really feasible to compare skill between the two areas. its like comparing a sprinter ot a marathon runner.....

i like it.

mums and motors eh?

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Originally posted by Munken I wouldn't call f1 gearboxes automatic, more like semiautomatic, the driver still got to shift up and down himself.

that is what i sayd here

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Originally posted by nchs09 drag racing, u dont have time to push the clutch and reach for the shift nob, .... so they use automatics, u change a gear in 1 second, by the time ur in 3rd, u would of lost 2 seconds or about half the race just shifting..... F1 they us the SMG style gears. its not the same as the ones on the road though, they are much more faster gear changes, and the car doesnt change it for you if you forget, u have to do it or ull overrev and kill the engine.... as raikkonin did this weekend

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Originally posted by -=M=- rofl reason why most ppl think auto cars go slower is because they have them configured wrong as is this case: an automatic car is not 40lbs heavier, and formula 1 cars use tiptronic transmission - a combination of auto and manual

Take a look at almost any car and you'll see that the auto tranny has significantly less horsepower/torque than the manual version. It's not how "they" have them set, it's how the auto manufactures make them. I think if they were able to have the automatics put out as much horsepower as the manuals they would do so. Also, most automatics do weigh more than manuals.

I'm amazed at the amount of stupid comments that have been made in this thread, especially about drag racing. Any of you even been to a professional drag race (NHRA)? Those cars (top fuel dragsters) are putting out 8,000 horsepower (more power than the first 8 rows of a NASCAR race). That fact alone is impressive enough.

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Originally posted by kid nyce i thought drag racers drop their clutch to launch off the line...i didnt know automatic could be dumped into gear at 5k rpms

new ones can its called launch control, u hit the gas and keep the break in, the car wont accelerate untill u release the break and ull have wtvr rpm range u want to start out with... the only car i kno that has this is the 360 challenge though

last time i checked the newspaper an automatic rx8 was going for 22000 USD

id say its worth it to get your mom one

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Originally posted by -=M=- rofl reason why most ppl think auto cars go slower is because they have them configured wrong as is this case: Auto: Horsepower 197 @ 7200 rpm Torque 164 @ 5000 rpm Manual: Horsepower 238 @ 8500 rpm Torque 159 @ 5500 rpm the horsepower is 197 @ 7200rpm yes however you can change the auto so that it will in fact change geer @ 8500 rather than 7200 an automatic car is not 40lbs heavier, and formula 1 cars use tiptronic transmission - a combination of auto and manual

the automatic's are heavier, dont have as much hp, and also have less options. ie: they dont have independent rear wheel suspension or 18" wheels like the manuals. the automatic is cheaper than the manual, which is the opposite of most cases. the reason why the more expensive tranny is in the cheaper car is because they cut alot of corners in the automatic to make it cheaper. whereas the 6 spd is tuned differently, better suspension, better brakes, etc etc

but for a female driving around town, it'd be a georgous car to have 6 spd or auto.

my friends dad got one, its one sexy ass car. Sweet as well, Ib rather have an rx-7 as well..let her get it and kiss ass so she can lend it to you.

Joo Kan Pik Up Biatches!!!

last i heard to make an uphill start is to put it into first and then slowly release the handbrake. that description may be crude so i apologize. i have a 323 bmw manual and everytime theres traffic i curse the day i got a stick. though its lots of fun when ure on nice windy roads and the sort or no traffic. the handling and turning in my opinion is superior to automatic which was also mentioned here. i think getting a manual has helped me become a much better driver since my alertness and coordination are elevated in addition to other things. i look back now and i see the improvements. in relation to your post, dont worry if its automatic, just having the option of borrowing the car should more than make up for it.

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Originally posted by nchs09 the only car i kno that has this is the 360 challenge though

BMW with SMG gearboxes also have launch control.


Oh i dont care if a car has 80, 800 or 8000 HP. The HP alone is not impresive infact its woth absolutely nothing if the car cant handle it. If dragsters want to be impresive, let see them try doing a lap on Nurburgring (Nordschleife not the new F1 track ), now thats impresive

off topic but to moongoose: im not into asian chicks at all but that girl youre showin is looking mighty fine indeed.

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