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Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs Markus Schulz is being a pioneer IMO. I think his wife made this quote...

A pioneer in domesticating prog and trance, blending them together, and creating fast food music.

This is a step backwards from what people like Sasha, Dave Seaman, James Holden, Nick Warren and even Tiesto and Oakey have done in the past. There's nothing really new or refreshing about this. Think about it.

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If you want those sick underground tunes, then go listen to Danny Howells. If you want your epic trancers, then go listen to Armin Van Buuren. Feel like something inbetween? Markus Schulz... Just depends on your mood I guess?

I'm tempted to include Armin in the fast food prog trance category as well, but that's a whole different story. LOL.....

stfu. markus' mixing skills are way better than tiesto's british railway.

xxx arturo

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Originally posted by arturob stfu. markus' mixing skills are way better than tiesto's british railway. xxx arturo

why does whenever someone disagrees with me they attack Tiesto even if it's not related to the topic being discussed? i'm not his personal lawyer.

armin and markus play watered down prog. deal with it.

:P your fault :P

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Originally posted by arturob :P your fault :P

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Originally posted by YaleTrance

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Originally posted by YaleTrance Trance and progressive are in a sad state when people think that a track like Satellite is part of the most intelligent style there is. This style is not subtle or complicated at all. Maybe it's making you think it is, but it's really just fooling you, and that's the reason that it doesn't impress me. This is music that caters to MP3 bedroom trancers, with a few soothing easy listening sounds that entrances and tricks the listener into overestimating it.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I'm just waiting for some blunt fool to post the seminal revelation "as long as you like the music, who cares?"

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Originally posted by Cobalt Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm just waiting for some blunt fool to post the seminal revelation "as long as you like the music, who cares?"

yeah who cares !

McProg, HAHAHAA

Theres a lot of nice tunes on there.

I heard the cd. Loved it. Really enjoyed the tracklist.

can i get some ketchup to enhance the flavour?


i'm lovin' it!

on repeat for 3 days straight

doh, it doensn't have

Jewel - Intuition (Markus Schulz Coldharbour mix)

Still, can't wait to get this, there are a few coldharbour mixes on it i haven't heard yet, and a wicked collection of other tracks too.

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Originally posted by TOR hmm.. i wonder why Markus is popular then.

I really really really wish you people would stop using the "if XXX is sucks, then why is XXX popular?" excuse. Britney Spears is more popular than any producer could even imagine being and her music is atrocious. Popularity DOES NOT EQUAL quality.

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Originally posted by YaleTrance A pioneer in domesticating prog and trance, blending them together, and creating fast food music. This is a step backwards from what people like Sasha, Dave Seaman, James Holden, Nick Warren and even Tiesto and Oakey have done in the past. There's nothing really new or refreshing about this. Think about it. I'm tempted to include Armin in the fast food prog trance category as well, but that's a whole different story. LOL.....

Everyone has to start somewhere. Probably 75% of the people who joined the scene back in '99 were huge trance heads, then slowly converted to whatever they love now. To me, Markus shows people that there's more to EDM then just trance. He does this by keeping it danceable, but not your regular formula based "build up hands in the air climax" style.

The guys that you mentioned do their music for their underground fans, and that's who they want to please. Markus just wants to make music everyone can enjoy...

People will learn on their own, it just takes time. It takes awhile to be a jaded underground elitest though

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Originally posted by YaleTrance Can you say McProg?

Classic...

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Originally posted by dark_tenshi Classic...

Classic.

can't wait to hear this cd, the tracklisting looks great

ill just have to wait and hope that it gets released in australia!

Okay this debate is getting a little bit too analytical for a form of art after all it is subjective, it's not exactly arithmetic. When I was referring to proggressive being intelligent I was referring more to the tracks that are substantial to Clear Blue. The whole CD sounds amazing but Clear Blue is like beyond this world like Yale Trance said. Not necessarily the tracks that have been remixed and fucked like a 52 year old prostitute in NY. As I said to a friend last night the likes of Sasha/Digweed and now Markus allow you to get lost in the melody more than that of an epic trancer. Each has its place and at the right time can work magic.

And as far as the "being done before", you may not want to consider that so much as played out rather than people simply following a good example and trying to put unique spins on it. The generations progress just as music because you learn from what you have been told and the good influences in life not copy them but apply them. I can't convince everyone to love Markus of course because for some reason I don't specifically enjoy PVD so much, he's good but I don't see what the hoopla is about, so naturally it just comes down to a feeling.

O yes and YaleTrance, even though I dreadfully disagree with you, I must give you props on your copyright of McProg, that was a true laugh out loud moment here in the workplace.

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Originally posted by Wretched Britney Spears is more popular than any producer could even imagine being and her music is atrocious. Popularity DOES NOT EQUAL quality.

uhm.. no. all her fans think her music is great.

to you, her music is atrocious.

'quality' is a subjective notion.

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