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Posted by whiskers on Apr-03-2004 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
It's good your book isn't the reality.




yeah, in his book sped up prog probably = hardcore


Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-03-2004 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
yeah, in his book sped up prog probably = hardcore


it doesn't


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-03-2004 19:04:

Who the fuck asked the fuckup tiesto raping aka yaletrance?


go wankoff to your numberone dj, you fuckup


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-03-2004 19:06:

Who the fuck said I'm elitist. I was just claiming I know more than Ishkur (there are others on the forums that know more than me and I know that). See I rather read up on what I don't know because I love to learn. See that's why I said TA should make our own guide because we have many experts on many genres.


Posted by Pio on Apr-03-2004 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Who the fuck asked the fuckup tiesto raping aka yaletrance?


go wankoff to your numberone dj, you fuckup


Wow, I see. So this is what I get for a respectful reply, personal insults and non-sequitors. Very mature way of refuting my arguments.


Posted by Frase on Apr-03-2004 19:34:

people only resort to the little kiddy comments because they feel threatened if theres a bigger smart arse than them

go download a personality kids


Posted by Ste on Apr-03-2004 19:34:

its all about describing a tune without going "wob wob wob weeeer kachunk"



Posted by Clyde77 on Apr-03-2004 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Frase
people only resort to the little kiddy comments because they feel threatened if theres a bigger smart arse than them

go download a personality kids



ye smartasses, eat that shit!


Posted by Fast Turtle on Apr-03-2004 19:57:

Re: Re: Genre whoring

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
...personally, I hate psy-trance to death rather because it reminds me of the psy-trancers from my city).


Sometimes the psytrance elitists I've met frustrate me. It's always like, "Trance sucks unless it sounds more like techno/astral projection/alien project or has more squeaky noises and less melody.". I agree that the scenery at parties and stuff has gotten kinda boring and uninnovative too...I'm getting kinda tired of fluorescent everything and nothing else usually at parties.


Posted by Torley Wong on Apr-03-2004 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
...
There are TAs than can answer in the affirmative to any of these, according to their specialization. Neither you, nor Ishkur nor anyone can answer EVERYTHING according to their absolute truth values of edm history. Deal with it.


Well said *claps* I believe we all have our unique personal experiences... and posting on here in a polite and friendly fashion is one way to share those experiences and combine that information. I would like to see this redundant issue stop coming up on here, but apparently that cannot be the case. The truly wise teachers listen amply as well as speak. It's an exchange of information and sharing of our passion for this type of music.

There's always more to learn, and always more room to grow. For those who think electronic music started with Fatboy Slim, it goes back further still. Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk? Even further... even into a time where the music was not electronic but no doubt influenced what happens today. It's all connected and I find the greatest respect is in tracing the many diverse paths and seeing how they converge and diverge -- and more importantly, actually listening to the music and enjoying.

Sometimes, it's not about "the truth" -- but rather, the power of observation and life from our own individual perspective and frame of reference. Didn't Einstein say something about that as well?

I'm concretely convinced that the true masters among us do not freely dispense all their knowledge in one go like pearls to swine (rough analogy -- I have nothing against pigs or pearls for the record), but rather, wait until the time is right to share it; or perhaps a willing and ready student, for that nature. It's easier to learn when one's mind is open. Yes, that sounded "cheesy" but how true it is.

If trance were a religion... well, Joan of Arcadia has something to say on the matter:

"It's not about religion, it's about fulfilling your potential."

And, oh, when in doubt, invent your own genre.


Posted by Lira on Apr-03-2004 22:12:

tta, read this:
-------------------------------
One lawyer, one teacher and one fisherman were crossing the river (on a boat, obviously).

The lawyer asked the fisherman:
"Do you know how the penal system works?"
The fisherman promptly replied:
"No sir, I don't"
The lawyer than said:
"You wasted half of your life then: if you don't know the laws, how can you defend yourself from unfair judgements?"

The fisherman didn't say a word.

So the teacher decided to have a word with him too.
"Do you know math?"
The fisherman was honest:
"No ma'am, I don't know math... in fact, I can't even read well"
The teacher said something similar to the lawyers words:
"You wasted half of your life then: if you don't know how to read, and you don't know how to deal with numbers, how do you know people are paying you the fair price for your fish?"

The fisherman, once again, stayed silent.

Suddenly though, they got in a storm and the boat started to sink. Naturally, the fisherman started to swim, when he heard the lawyer and the teacher screaming:
"Help us! Help us!"

The fisherman, confused, asked:
"Don't you cult people know how to swim?"
They said:
"No, there are no rivers where we live"

The fisherman smiled and said:
"I can't swim with you because of the storm, so all I can say is: you wasted your life"

-----------------------------------------
I know you're very intelligent, so I won't bother to explain, as I believe you know what I mean.


Posted by armandzadza on Apr-03-2004 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
Yeah, you missed your beloved word that you abuse all the time: McProg.


Oh, look, I know how to use the rolleyes smiley, too:


Posted by armandzadza on Apr-03-2004 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
It's good your book isn't the reality.


Aren't all genre definitions subjective? Last I checked, there was no International Commissions of Musical Genres that issues official opinions on what particular genre a track belongs to.

As for Breaks/Jungle, I group them together, because of they don't use the regular 4/4 beat, as virtually all other EDM genres do. Feel free to agree or disagree.


Posted by armandzadza on Apr-03-2004 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
yeah, in his book sped up prog probably = hardcore


I should have thought of that!


Posted by johnson3161 on Apr-03-2004 23:08:

in the end....

trance is shit

funky / deep / tech / tribal / progressive house owns you.

trance is for crybabies.

go cry me a river while wanking off to your lame breakdowns.

while i groove on over to the lawnchair generals.


Posted by Frase on Apr-03-2004 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by johnson3161
in the end....

trance is shit

funky / deep / tech / tribal / progressive house owns you.

trance is for crybabies.

go cry me a river while wanking off to your lame breakdowns.

while i groove on over to the lawnchair generals.


Such an educated reply, why do people think they're music is above everyone elses?

Personally i like trance jus as much as i like house/progressive/techno etc

You still get these twats, Johnson included, who believe its their mission to discourage people from listening to any type of music except the one they love.

Oh yeah forgot to add Johnson if your not a massive fan of trance, why the hell you on TranceAddict if you hate the music so much?

Hypocrit springs to mind


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-03-2004 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Frase
if it makes me taps my foot or nod my head then i dont care what genre of edm it is


So if you want more like that, it would make perfect sense to ask the record shop owner "I'm looking for music that makes my foot tap."

Somehow I think you're failing to see why some people like categorizing EDM.


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-03-2004 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by aspergian
I'm concretely convinced that the true masters among us do not freely dispense all their knowledge in one go like pearls to swine (rough analogy -- I have nothing against pigs or pearls for the record), but rather, wait until the time is right to share it; or perhaps a willing and ready student, for that nature. It's easier to learn when one's mind is open. Yes, that sounded "cheesy" but how true it is.


Probably so.

I'm typically active in the genre-whoring topics, particularly concerning progressive trance, but I think I'll sit this one out.


Posted by johnson3161 on Apr-03-2004 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Frase
Such an educated reply, why do people think they're music is above everyone elses?

Personally i like trance jus as much as i like house/progressive/techno etc

You still get these twats, Johnson included, who believe its their mission to discourage people from listening to any type of music except the one they love.

Oh yeah forgot to add Johnson if your not a massive fan of trance, why the hell you on TranceAddict if you hate the music so much?

Hypocrit springs to mind


shut the fuck up.

thanks


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-03-2004 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by johnson3161
shut the fuck up.

thanks


You're digging yourself a hole and ruining the forums for others. Do you somehow fail to see this? Have a sense of responsibility and self-control.


Posted by Matt Jay on Apr-04-2004 00:06:

He missed out electro-latin-gabber-breaks


Posted by Frase on Apr-04-2004 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by johnson3161
shut the fuck up.

thanks


i will when you stop giving your elitist bullshit attitude across this place, people just wanna enjoy the music, if you dont like what you hear, dont comment or dont bother listening to it.


Posted by Streakfury on Apr-04-2004 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
dream trance


Ah??


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-04-2004 03:50:

such a funny thread

nice to see the yaletrance crybaby getting mad at my comment.

He can't prove it that others know more than me but then again (key old tta saying) I can't prove it as well. Only if there was some way, but I do know more than ishkur and I'm willing to prove it (still dunno how)

that brings us to the real point

time to make a real EDM genre guide for the noobies. I think it's time to get the biased bullshit out of a guide and just tell it like it is (I'll happily help with the techno and the house history and finding real tracks).


Posted by Torley Wong on Apr-04-2004 03:52:

Hmmm.


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