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| Calling all techno junkies, prog heads, house freaks and other elitists in general... |
It's Hybrid - Finished Symphony not Unfinished BTW

Re: Calling all techno junkies, prog heads, house freaks and other elitists in general...
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| Originally posted by Lira French House: Daft Punk - One more time |
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| Techstep: ? |
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| Jazzstep/Intelligent Drum'n'bass: ? |
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| Electroclash: Ficherspooner - Emerge Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Is this really electroclash? I think it is) |
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| And tribal house, tribal techno, tribal trance, deep techno, latin house, latin techno,... |
I'd nominate Shmuel Flash - Chilling Moments for Progressive House. Imho this is how proper prog sounds like.
Also I can't believe you didn't mention THE classic of the psy/goa genre: Hallucinogen - L.S.D.
Add Pleiadians - Maya and X-Dream - Coming Soon
Progressive House: Sasha & Junkie XL - Beauty Never Fades
Deep House: PQM - You Are Sleeping ??
i enjoy your thread lira, i always learn something from em 
hehe, thanks Elena: I hope you'll enjoy the final work as well 
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| Originally posted by UWM Elitists? |
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| Originally posted by bedrocking Thing with progressive house is that it has evolved over the years. The tune that kicked it all off back in the day many believe to be Leftfied - Not Forgotten, and other stuff on the Guerilla record label like William Orbit - Water From a Vine Leaf or React 2 Rhythm - Intoxication. That sounds nothing like the progressive sound u get now. What is called progressive house these days really evolved from the trancier stuff that djs like Sasha & Digweed played 96-99, and was called trance or progressive trance (stuff like Bedrock - Set In Stone, LSG - Netherworld, Atlas - Compass Error etc. When the whole euro trance thing kicked off big time in 1999, they didnt want to be associated with it and played darker stuff. The stuff thats called progressive house/trance now. You have an impossible task ahead of you, sorry to sound a bit bleak, but you really would have to have been around from about 1987 and kept an interest in all genres throughout that period to be able to produce something that you felt was accurate enough. However I cannot recomend this website highly enough to get a bit of background in. http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html Tjere are a few issues i have with the site, but basically its spot on. The problem with the info on this site is that its also always going to be contempary, so its probably not a bad idea just to do a contempary guide of dance music and that way you wont get any problems. |
). It happens to every every genre. Trance nowadays doesn't sound anything like early trance, uk hard house now sounds different from those fanfares it evolved from, and so on. I'm not gonna ignore the history of the genres as this is the second most important part of any guide (the most important being the explanation of what things are) 
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| Originally posted by Radagast I'm sure Lira knows about Ishkur's guide...and should be in contact with him while making his 'unbiased' guide if he's smart. |
). We both like the history of EDM so it's natural that we talk about it with each other. Besides being a patient teacher (as he's already explained a lot of things to me), he's a very intelligent person with interesting points of view.
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| Originally posted by Ian^ ok a bit more hard house Tony De Vit - Are you all ready / The Dawn Hyperlogic - Only Me (Stimulant DJs Remix) Artemesia - Bits & Pieces Signum - What ya got 4 me UK Hard Dance Guyver - Man on the moon Riot Bros - Ripped Out Travel - Bulgarian (Paul Maddox Rmx) Azure - Sunset JX - Restless (Guyver Rmx) Hard Trance SHOKK - Isn't it all a little strange Flutlicht - Icarus Green Court - Silent Heart (Flutlicht rmx) Dark Moon - Zeitreise DuMonde - Never Look Back Tankis & Savietto - Antea Happy Hardcore - dont keel me Force & Styles - Shining Down, Heart of Gold, Pretty Green Eyes Breeze - Fly Away Hixxy - Toytown Bang! - Shooting Star, Break of dawn DJ Seduction - Never gonna let you go Vinylgroover - Bright Eyes hope thats a few more |
By the way, isn't "UK Hard Dance" and umbrella genre that covers modern UK Hard House, UK Hard Trance and nrg (former nu-nrg)? Just checking, as you had them in two different parts 
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| Originally posted by torontotrance Disco house: Frankie Knuckles's stuff Deep house: Marshall Jefferson Larry Heard Speed Garage Sneaker Pimps - Spin Spin Sugar (Armand Van Helden's Dark Garage Mix) Nu Breaks Ils, Evil 9, Adam Freeland |
Cheers, tta 
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| Originally posted by Luke Terry i wouldn't classify finished symphony as prog/trance breaks, that tune just lies in a genre of its own, its basically a classical piece with nigh on turn of the 21st century percussion, something like if i survive would be more fitting although it's still not a great example ![]() |

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| Originally posted by infinity0908 It's Hybrid - Finished Symphony not Unfinished BTW |

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| Originally posted by YaleTrance I don't think that's the best choice for french house, being the most commercial song of the genre and all. Stick to the old quintessential Thomas Bangalter/Daft Punk stuff. Around the world is probably the best example. |
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| Originally posted by YaleTrance old school Ed Rush and Optical stuff. |

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| Originally posted by YaleTrance intelligent and jazzstep SHOULD be separated. even if not usually done. Marcus Intalex, High Contrast and LTJ Bukem are the prime examples. are you doing atmospheric dnb for Goldie as well? because people will call that intelligent dnb too and it's not jazzy. |
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| Originally posted by YaleTrance Oh no! Satisfaction is definitely not electroclash. Electroclash elitists would die if they saw that. Electroclash is not really supposed to be that clubby, it's more emo/avant-garde/retro/post-punk oriented. ie. 2 many djs (definitely reference to their mix compilation AS HEARD ON RADIO SOULWAX for a review of the genre's evolution), Ladytron, Chicks on Speed, Fischerspooner, and Felix da Housecat being the most commercially oriented within the acceptable boundaries of electroclash. Satisfaction is house, club music. Same with the electro-trance Ferry crap. Doesn't really fit with the electroclash ethos. |
As for Ferry's latest production, I'm thinking (haven't decided yet) of having a "regressive trance" or "experimental trance" somewhere in the guide so I could add trance/club tunes with this retro/experimental feel.| quote: |
| Originally posted by YaleTrance for Latin house---it's all about Masters at Work (Little Louie Vega). tribal can be pure (old Tenaglia), go more proggy (Filterheadz) or more clubby trancy house (Robbie Rivera). |
hmm... however, I reckon "clubby trancy house" wouldn't be a good name for a genre because, if I started to divide genres that much, my work would be endless
Can't I just have it under tribal trance (or house)? 
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| Originally posted by TranceGiant I'd nominate Shmuel Flash - Chilling Moments for Progressive House. Imho this is how proper prog sounds like. Also I can't believe you didn't mention THE classic of the psy/goa genre: Hallucinogen - L.S.D. Add Pleiadians - Maya and X-Dream - Coming Soon |
I didn't know about the other tunes though, thanks 
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| Originally posted by Galapidate Progressive House: Sasha & Junkie XL - Beauty Never Fades Deep House: PQM - You Are Sleeping ?? |

my favorite deep house track is sunday brunch - my world..
you can find it on zabiela's sound of motion set
ahhh yes.
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| Originally posted by Lira It's not a matter of smartness (does this word exist? ). |
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| Originally posted by Radagast Intelligence works nicely in that situation. |
Anyway, this discussion is becoming too weird so I guess we'd better get back on topic 
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| Originally posted by rainbow_marble my favorite deep house track is sunday brunch - my world.. you can find it on zabiela's sound of motion set ahhh yes. |
Early Progressive House was Leftfield, this is true.
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| Originally posted by Lira Yay hmm... however, I reckon "clubby trancy house" wouldn't be a good name for a genre because, if I started to divide genres that much, my work would be endless Can't I just have it under tribal trance (or house)? ![]() |
Ok...here this is for you...I was a psychonaut for a while and I have a pretty good grasp of the scene...since you can't just classify psy or goa in general you need to talk about the sub-genres...below are sub-genres, main defining artists, and 3 song examples each...
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Psychedelic Trance & Goa
"MORNING PSY-TRANCE" (aka "Goa")
Astral Projection
-- Let There Be Light
-- Another World
-- Mahadeva
Pleiadians
-- Taygeta
-- Alcyone
-- Maia
California Sunshine
-- Last Feeling
-- Red Line
-- Jajo
Blue Planet Corporation
-- Crystal
-- Alidade
-- Micromega
Etnica
-- Screaming Butterfly
-- Party Droid
-- Starship 101
Transwave
-- Trashish
-- The Rezwalker
-- A Journey In The Outerspace
Man With No Name
-- Vavoom!
-- Moment Of Truth
-- Teleport
"NIGHT PSY-TRANCE" (aka "Full-On")
GMS (Growling Mad Scientists)
-- Life After
-- At The End Of Rainbow
-- Juice
Alien Project
-- Aztechno Dream
-- Genetic Eye
-- Midnight Sun
Hallucinogen
-- LSD
-- Horrogram
-- Shamanix
Infected Mushroom
-- Symphonatic
-- Psycho
-- The Spaniard
Talamasca
-- Sagittarius
-- A Frenchman In Tokyo
-- Scorpio
Green Nuns Of The Revolution
-- Thunder Thighs
-- Conflict
-- Ring Of Fire
Parasense
-- New Year Rabbit
-- All Drum Possible
-- Love To Hate
Logic Bomb
-- Hydrofon
-- Neighbour Of The Beast
-- Halojaner
"MINIMALISTIC PSY-TRANCE" (aka Psy-Tech)
X-Dream
-- Thorazine
-- Oscillator
-- Irritant
Atmos
-- Average Beverage
-- Cable Enable
-- Three Orange Lights
Wizzy Noise
-- Cyclotron
-- Tekknophobia
-- Velocity Engine
MidiMiliz
-- Antistat
-- Nuet
-- Restore My Soul
Spirallianz
-- Hide+Seek
-- Submariniert
-- Ghost Brigade
PROGRESSIVE PSY-TRANCE
Vibrasphere
-- Lemon Phase
-- Infusion
-- Newport
Zorba
-- Unlike Anything We Know
-- Day Dream
-- Hyper Zorba
Son Kite
-- The Stars Within Us
-- Games And Watch
-- Focus
NIZHONOT
Holymen
-- The Last Universe
-- War & Peace
-- The Formula
PSYCHEDELIC CHILLOUT (aka Psy-Ambient)
Shpongle
-- ...And The Day Turned Into Night
-- Behind Closed Eyelids
-- A New Way to Say 'Hooray!'
Entheogenic
-- Astral Cave
-- Level One
-- Absolute Love
Shulman
-- The Unexpected Visitor
-- A Magnificent Void
-- Mushroom Therapy
Solar Fields
-- Magic Eye
-- Elevator Sunshine Girl
-- Magnetic Air
Asura
-- Requiem From No Where
-- Raindust
-- Lost Eden
The Infinity Project
-- Mystical Experiences
-- Alien Patrol
-- The Answer
Ok....there are only a few sub-genres I left out because IMO your just going to get waaaaay to specific and start crossing genres over and over again when you get that specific...typically any psy-trance (goa) artist can fit into one of these categories.
Enjoy!!!!!!
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| Originally posted by Lira Bukem is indeed nice Do you happen to know if there are other popular artists? It seems he's the only one with the spotlight... |
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| Originally posted by Lira My bad By the way, where is liquid funk then, if High Contrast and Marcus Intalex produce jazzstep?(Yes, I'm adding atmospheric d'n'b) |
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| Originally posted by Dan1584 Ok...here this is for you...I was a psychonaut for a while and I have a pretty good grasp of the scene...since you can't just classify psy or goa in general you need to talk about the sub-genres...below are sub-genres, main defining artists, and 3 song examples each... Psychedelic Trance & Goa "MORNING PSY-TRANCE" (aka "Goa") Astral Projection -- Let There Be Light -- Another World -- Mahadeva Pleiadians -- Taygeta -- Alcyone -- Maia California Sunshine -- Last Feeling -- Red Line -- Jajo Blue Planet Corporation -- Crystal -- Alidade -- Micromega Etnica -- Screaming Butterfly -- Party Droid -- Starship 101 Transwave -- Trashish -- The Rezwalker -- A Journey In The Outerspace Man With No Name -- Vavoom! -- Moment Of Truth -- Teleport "NIGHT PSY-TRANCE" (aka "Full-On") GMS (Growling Mad Scientists) -- Life After -- At The End Of Rainbow -- Juice Alien Project -- Aztechno Dream -- Genetic Eye -- Midnight Sun Hallucinogen -- LSD -- Horrogram -- Shamanix Infected Mushroom -- Symphonatic -- Psycho -- The Spaniard Talamasca -- Sagittarius -- A Frenchman In Tokyo -- Scorpio Green Nuns Of The Revolution -- Thunder Thighs -- Conflict -- Ring Of Fire Parasense -- New Year Rabbit -- All Drum Possible -- Love To Hate Logic Bomb -- Hydrofon -- Neighbour Of The Beast -- Halojaner "MINIMALISTIC PSY-TRANCE" ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? << I hate this sub-genre so as for good suggestions about artists here, I can't remember...but I'll ask at the psy-boards and update this for you >> PROGRESSIVE PSY-TRANCE Vibrasphere -- Lemon Phase -- Infusion -- Newport Zorba -- Unlike Anything We Know -- Day Dream -- Hyper Zorba Son Kite -- The Stars Within Us -- Games And Watch -- Focus There you go!!! There are a couple of sub-genres I didn't mention like Nizhonot but I will go to the psy-boards and gather as much info as I can from the experts on the stuff I don't know. |
PSY:
Infected Mushroom - Bust A Move
Goa:
Astral Projection - Dancing Galaxy
Florida/Funky Breaks
Infiniti - Run Away Love
Burufunk - freedom
R-Fresh - Get Fresh
Rick West - On the Move
Latin techno:
Max walder - crown/samba del costa (tribal ?)
Tomas vs Filterheadz - Hijos del sol
Monika kruse - latin lovers
dj preach - no war in the summer (probably best of theese)
dj preach - against winter [filterheadz rmx](prefered)
deep techno:
alexander kowalski - belo horizonte
goa:
chi ad - biocandy
chi ad - eye am the i
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| Originally posted by beema What about Tech-House, Schranz Techno, Minimal Techno, Detroit Techno, etc? |
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| Originally posted by Dan1584 Ok...here this is for you...I was a psychonaut for a while and I have a pretty good grasp of the scene...since you can't just classify psy or goa in general you need to talk about the sub-genres...below are sub-genres, main defining artists, and 3 song examples each... Psychedelic Trance & Goa "MORNING PSY-TRANCE" (aka "Goa") Astral Projection -- Let There Be Light -- Another World -- Mahadeva Pleiadians -- Taygeta -- Alcyone -- Maia California Sunshine -- Last Feeling -- Red Line -- Jajo Blue Planet Corporation -- Crystal -- Alidade -- Micromega Etnica -- Screaming Butterfly -- Party Droid -- Starship 101 Transwave -- Trashish -- The Rezwalker -- A Journey In The Outerspace Man With No Name -- Vavoom! -- Moment Of Truth -- Teleport "NIGHT PSY-TRANCE" (aka "Full-On") GMS (Growling Mad Scientists) -- Life After -- At The End Of Rainbow -- Juice Alien Project -- Aztechno Dream -- Genetic Eye -- Midnight Sun Hallucinogen -- LSD -- Horrogram -- Shamanix Infected Mushroom -- Symphonatic -- Psycho -- The Spaniard Talamasca -- Sagittarius -- A Frenchman In Tokyo -- Scorpio Green Nuns Of The Revolution -- Thunder Thighs -- Conflict -- Ring Of Fire Parasense -- New Year Rabbit -- All Drum Possible -- Love To Hate Logic Bomb -- Hydrofon -- Neighbour Of The Beast -- Halojaner "MINIMALISTIC PSY-TRANCE" ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? << I hate this sub-genre so as for good suggestions about artists here, I can't remember...but I'll ask at the psy-boards and update this for you >> PROGRESSIVE PSY-TRANCE Vibrasphere -- Lemon Phase -- Infusion -- Newport Zorba -- Unlike Anything We Know -- Day Dream -- Hyper Zorba Son Kite -- The Stars Within Us -- Games And Watch -- Focus There you go!!! There are a couple of sub-genres I didn't mention like Nizhonot but I will go to the psy-boards and gather as much info as I can from the experts on the stuff I don't know. |
OMG, I love you!!!
Do you happen to have more info on ambient psy-trance and goa genres with breakbeats? I never seem to get the right thing 
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| Originally posted by Twoces Florida/Funky Breaks Infiniti - Run Away Love Burufunk - freedom R-Fresh - Get Fresh Rick West - On the Move |

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| Originally posted by Tranc3 Ahh, well recently High Contrast has been getting a lot of attention, other than him, there's Nu-Tone and London Elektricity |
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| Originally posted by Tranc3 Yeah I would also separate jazzstep from intelligent DnB, the difference is easily notable to most anyone. Jazzstep: Nu-Tone - Our House (Calibre's Lounge mix) London Elektricity - Different Drum (Nu-Tone remix) High Contrast - Return of Forever As I said, I'm not a hardcore addict, just listen to it enough to know what it is, so if these aren't the best examples...well...ask someone else |

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| Originally posted by alffla ok woahh those are NICE psy trance selections.. would've added some of those there if you didn't already! :P well..ill just add a few more astral prjoections then... Astral Projection - The Nexus Astral Projection - Aqua Line Spirit Astral Projection - No One Ever Dreams ____________________ Infected Mushroom - Opagiffa Night Infected Mushroom - Semi Nice ____________________ Psydrop - Fantasy Seeds Psydrop - Angels Dust ____________________ well i think this is enough for psytrance rght.. haha :P |
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| Originally posted by DJ Cinos PSY: Infected Mushroom - Bust A Move Goa: Astral Projection - Dancing Galaxy |














edit: heh. my bad.
I gotta go now, I'll replie to the latest posts when I come back 
edit: I had not seen your post, Mikey, I'm really sorry... hold on
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Classic Garage: Richie Dan - Temptation One of my fav garage tracks anyway. and maybe another category? Speed Garage: Second Protocal - Basslick |
progressive breaks:
momu - the dive
petter - these days
progressive trance:
vincent de moor - yellow subway
azior - sunset at myvatn (subsphere remix)
dj tiesto & junkie xl - obsession
bart van wissen - distant region
subsky - four days
i always thought of a 'deep trance' genre separate of 'progressive trance', though most people would say that it doesn't exist - it's probably just old progressive trance. pretty much all the tracks sasha & digweed used to play back then fit in there, stuff like
sasha - xpander
albion - air
virtua trancer - sex after dinner
gypsy - i trance you (pappa & gilbey remix)
cygnus x - positron
*edit* remember that 'progressive trance' is a very broad term used to described very different stuff! by one side, it's so fused with progressive house that one can't tell which is which - example: pig & dan - jelly. by another, it's fused with uplifting: airwave - ladyblue (original). and there's even progressive-psy, which has a very large scene, can't think of a good example right now
ah nice compilation so far..lookin good!
hm..i always thought cygnus x - positron was more like..harder trance or something...cuz it had sucha strong beat o_O. maybe i'm wrong then. :|
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