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Posted by jonze on May-03-2004 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Hey Prod, not too sure yet... was still a bit up in the air. But I know the flight destination is Chicago area so my guess is that if it's not in Chicago then somewhere in Illinois.
Also leaves me a little freaked as to be honest, not sure what the scene is like there.

I know it's november time... watch this space is all I can say.

Cheers
Nem


when you find out where you are going to be at and all the details post it in the chicago forum. we always try to support other TA.


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-04-2004 17:57:

quote:
Originally posted by dukes
well me and a mate are hopefully gonna be trying to get events sorted out up here with better dj's and more variety (as in more differant djs not diff styles). just researching into it for now into the costs to get djs up here. we aint fussed about making a shit load of money as long as we dont loose any.

we want decent names that are "low cost" djs. like i know judge jules fergie and jon carter are good croud pullers that are pretty cheap and probly pretty realistic price range. but these guys come up all the time so we want other names that are marketable. the musical styles have to be D&B, trance, prog and possably hip-hop (not comercial pish proper hip hop).

the aim is basicly to get good dj's up here to make good nights while we would get to dj when we wanted too and create a small name for ourselves.



Sounds interesting.
Main thing for me would be the travel, just did a quick check on lastminute.com and the flight was around �150. If you are interested send me a PM and I will give you a preliminary quote.

I'm interested to know the venue etc. and if they have a website as I like to know a little about places before I go there assuming that you want me to ofcourse.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by tu_face on May-05-2004 10:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Judge Jules is in the region of 5k+ a big bucket of vodka+cranberry juice+a bottle of champagne (depending on which nite)


you can tell thias was a while ago...

gatecrasher payed him something like �250 for a new years gig recently


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-05-2004 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
you can tell thias was a while ago...

gatecrasher payed him something like �250 for a new years gig recently


New years eve is a different story, you can never compare those prices with regular prices through out the year. NYE always turns into a bidding frenzy for top name DJs and in the end the one who can pay the most get's the DJ. You will also find that there is always a lot more to those deals than meets the eye.

Even pre club bar DJs get paid a lot more, so it's not representative of the scene as a whole.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-05-2004 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze234
when you find out where you are going to be at and all the details post it in the chicago forum. we always try to support other TA.


Sounds cool

Nem


Posted by Freak on May-05-2004 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
you can tell thias was a while ago...

gatecrasher payed him something like �250 for a new years gig recently


he got 250k for millenium eve, which considering the amount of offers he had to play places that night was the going rate for his services.

His current normal fee is as i put above- as nem points out, NYE is a different kettle of fish.


Posted by The Don on May-08-2004 15:29:

Jules DID NOT get a1/4 of a million for the millenium..


Thats possibly the funniest thing ive read all day!


Posted by Tranceporter99 on May-08-2004 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by The Don
Jules DID NOT get a1/4 of a million for the millenium..


Thats possibly the funniest thing ive read all day!


yeah i found it hard to believe as well, id find it hard to be;ieve a quarter of a mil for PvD or oakenfold, or tiesto or someone


Posted by dukes on May-08-2004 17:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
yeah i found it hard to believe as well, id find it hard to be;ieve a quarter of a mil for PvD or oakenfold, or tiesto or someone


carl cox got 1 cool milion uk pounds for his ministry of sound set on the milenium.


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-08-2004 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by dukes
carl cox got 1 cool milion uk pounds for his ministry of sound set on the milenium.


Absolutely.

As I said earlier NYE is a different story but on the same count the millenium was a mad affair.
I normally get paid over a grand for a normal NYE and was paid silly money at the millenium gig.
The rumour mill has it that the average fee on the millenium was 20k for the lower bracket DJs.

The millenium was more about prestige than anything else for most clubs. To be seen as the club that was able to afford Jules or Cox on that night is a big deal in club land. For those that haven't worked it out yet, a lot of things in the DJ industry are about front and reputation.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are worth it but these figures are totally possible. I also know what Fergie was paid to DJ at God's Kitchen in Belfast last years boxing day and know that we are not talking Mickey Mouse money there either. Jules, Ferry, Marco V, Scott Project and Armin were also there and I imagine they were paid similar money.

These guys also get paid a shed load for their Ibiza appearances, again not to be compared to regular club land appearances.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Freak on May-09-2004 14:19:

quote:
Originally posted by The Don
Jules DID NOT get a1/4 of a million for the millenium..


Thats possibly the funniest thing ive read all day!


Oopps

I mistyped- he got 150k.
This is a fact- not a micky mouse figure.

Money+reputation is the driving force behind this business-, and as nem says, NYE is mad normally, millenium was insane.


Posted by CKYTEP on May-10-2004 05:32:

I gotten a few bookings out of state and i know most other djs that arent worldwide/countrywide known level follow similar fogures. Its all should be written down on a contract that your production company (if you signed on to one) or yourself prepare. (Always a good idea to have a contract down). This what usually includes

- Plane ticket
- 4/5 Star hotel room accomodations
- artist performing fee (usually 100-200$ for dj's our level)
- Promoter has to fulfill artists guestlist and beverage choices
- Equipment has to be provied by the contract per artist wishes (Generally Technics SL 1200 (MK2 or higher), Pioneer 500/600 mixer, CDJ 1000, Workign microphone and full range monitor that artist can adjust)
- Artist has to have a timeslot between hours 12-4am and perform for no longer then 1hour 30 min.
- Promoter has to provide the deposit with artist payments and accomodations within 3 weeks of the show
- Promoter cannot hold artist liable for any disaster, death, damage etc during the show.

I'm sure there is more that i cannot think of right now.. and this is just an example... All those big names get all kinds of crazy shit... i mean 20000$ fee is by itself but then imagine paying another 5000$ for all the shit the want in addition


Posted by rafale on May-10-2004 10:33:

I'm just wondering what pvd and sasha got for the millenium.
not to mention oakey


Posted by DJAntSmith on May-10-2004 11:27:

quote:
Originally posted by dukes
carl cox got 1 cool milion uk pounds for his ministry of sound set on the milenium.


If memory serves. Didn't he play Australia for the first new year to happen, then flay out to do another before the stroke of 12 yet again?


Posted by dukes on May-10-2004 11:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJAntSmith
If memory serves. Didn't he play Australia for the first new year to happen, then flay out to do another before the stroke of 12 yet again?


yup. i think thats also one of the reasons he got so much. but the one mill was just for the MOS set he also got paid for his first one (unlesss it was also a MOS thing)


Posted by dukes on May-10-2004 11:54:

quote:
Originally posted by CKYTEP
I gotten a few bookings out of state and i know most other djs that arent worldwide/countrywide known level follow similar fogures. Its all should be written down on a contract that your production company (if you signed on to one) or yourself prepare. (Always a good idea to have a contract down). This what usually includes

- Plane ticket
- 4/5 Star hotel room accomodations
- artist performing fee (usually 100-200$ for dj's our level)
- Promoter has to fulfill artists guestlist and beverage choices
- Equipment has to be provied by the contract per artist wishes (Generally Technics SL 1200 (MK2 or higher), Pioneer 500/600 mixer, CDJ 1000, Workign microphone and full range monitor that artist can adjust)
- Artist has to have a timeslot between hours 12-4am and perform for no longer then 1hour 30 min.
- Promoter has to provide the deposit with artist payments and accomodations within 3 weeks of the show
- Promoter cannot hold artist liable for any disaster, death, damage etc during the show.

I'm sure there is more that i cannot think of right now.. and this is just an example... All those big names get all kinds of crazy shit... i mean 20000$ fee is by itself but then imagine paying another 5000$ for all the shit the want in addition


chears for the info. sounds aroyingly tedious but i supose with a 2000 capacity venue the ability to make money is practicaly garintued i thought booking would be the easiest part.

i take it the hotel would have to be good quality for every dj but the plane tickets can be cheap ones?


Posted by CKYTEP on May-10-2004 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by dukes
chears for the info. sounds aroyingly tedious but i supose with a 2000 capacity venue the ability to make money is practicaly garintued i thought booking would be the easiest part.

i take it the hotel would have to be good quality for every dj but the plane tickets can be cheap ones?


there isnt really such a thing as cheap plane tickets... you might get lucky to come across a good deal to bring a dj from out of state but if you book a big name, expect to shell out for a 1st class ticket.

Usually the out of state DJ compensation being decided over the expected attendance and door charge, also things like headliner and number of dj's playing can be included in that decision.


Posted by dukes on May-10-2004 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by CKYTEP
there isnt really such a thing as cheap plane tickets... you might get lucky to come across a good deal to bring a dj from out of state but if you book a big name, expect to shell out for a 1st class ticket.

Usually the out of state DJ compensation being decided over the expected attendance and door charge, also things like headliner and number of dj's playing can be included in that decision.


hahahah look at my flag. im really not woried bout out of state flights. internal uk will do me


Posted by The Don on May-10-2004 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Oopps

I mistyped- he got 150k.
This is a fact- not a micky mouse figure.

Money+reputation is the driving force behind this business-, and as nem says, NYE is mad normally, millenium was insane.


Jules didnt get any more than 35k for NYE at the millenium and even the Figure of 32k that was published in the sun got him in trouble with the tax man as he had claimed alot less was agreed for that night, that was for an evenings worth of compre aswell as his set...


As For Cox.. Well as far as I remember he played home in Sydney then flew round to Hawai for a gig. I dont recall him doing a Ministry Gig never mind his fee being published...


Posted by Zombie0729 on May-10-2004 19:40:

last time chatting w/ Ferry's agency, couldnt' even get him for 12,500 $$


Posted by CKYTEP on May-11-2004 03:52:

quote:
Originally posted by dukes
hahahah look at my flag. im really not woried bout out of state flights. internal uk will do me


ehhe... book me to play there


Posted by kron on May-11-2004 05:48:

it also depends how badly the djs want to go to that place. if they dont want to in the first place, prices would of course be high. there are special circumstances where djs would offer a lower than normal price.

and my thought is, DJS ARE OVERPAID and OVERRATED! after all, they play records, and most tracks are produced by other producers. hell they can have great techniques all they want but charging at this rate is just ridiculous. a good 2-3 hours earns you more than some guy who works his ass off for a year. not cool.


Posted by CKYTEP on May-11-2004 07:52:

quote:
Originally posted by kron
and my thought is, DJS ARE OVERPAID and OVERRATED! after all, they play records, and most tracks are produced by other producers. hell they can have great techniques all they want but charging at this rate is just ridiculous. a good 2-3 hours earns you more than some guy who works his ass off for a year. not cool.


Most of celebreties in entertainment are overpaid... The everyday DJ will be lucky enough to be comensated for what he would get for a day at his regular day job


Posted by dukes on May-11-2004 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by The Don
As For Cox.. Well as far as I remember he played home in Sydney then flew round to Hawai for a gig. I dont recall him doing a Ministry Gig never mind his fee being published...


it may have been total fees. yer your right it wasnt ministry. could have been beeb that payed him a shit load to do the set over radio.


but this is not the point.........

can anyone with experiance actualy say how much they have payed for uk bassed djs?


Posted by borron on May-11-2004 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by CKYTEP
I gotten a few bookings out of state and i know most other djs that arent worldwide/countrywide known level follow similar fogures. Its all should be written down on a contract that your production company (if you signed on to one) or yourself prepare. (Always a good idea to have a contract down). This what usually includes

- Plane ticket
- 4/5 Star hotel room accomodations
- artist performing fee (usually 100-200$ for dj's our level)
- Promoter has to fulfill artists guestlist and beverage choices
- Equipment has to be provied by the contract per artist wishes (Generally Technics SL 1200 (MK2 or higher), Pioneer 500/600 mixer, CDJ 1000, Workign microphone and full range monitor that artist can adjust)
- Artist has to have a timeslot between hours 12-4am and perform for no longer then 1hour 30 min.
- Promoter has to provide the deposit with artist payments and accomodations within 3 weeks of the show
- Promoter cannot hold artist liable for any disaster, death, damage etc during the show.

I'm sure there is more that i cannot think of right now.. and this is just an example... All those big names get all kinds of crazy shit... i mean 20000$ fee is by itself but then imagine paying another 5000$ for all the shit the want in addition


Playing for an hour and 30 mins... what's the fun of that?!


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