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Posted by torontotrance on Apr-25-2004 20:23:

see if you clowns have not realized this but I have the balls to say what you guys only dream about saying. Do I care if Atb and Sasha are friends? I mean the guy made a track that is so Scorchioesque that I believe it is stealing. I've always hated people taking something and making it sound so much like another track, I mean are'nt producers supposed to use their original ideas?. I'm sure Tanneberger has an explanation for that as well but as I stated earlier I have the balls to say what most of you don't have the balls to say and I've been doing it for years and I don't plan to stop.


Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-25-2004 20:37:

aside from my playful posts, i think stealing other peoples ideas and songs without due credit is wrong. i never listened to that atb track so i wouldnt really know.


Posted by Speedy2k on Apr-25-2004 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
see if you clowns have not realized this but I have the balls to say what you guys only dream about saying...


I guess you deserve a medal


Posted by starglider on Apr-25-2004 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
see if you clowns have not realized this but I have the balls to say what you guys only dream about saying. Do I care if Atb and Sasha are friends? I mean the guy made a track that is so Scorchioesque that I believe it is stealing. I've always hated people taking something and making it sound so much like another track, I mean are'nt producers supposed to use their original ideas?. I'm sure Tanneberger has an explanation for that as well but as I stated earlier I have the balls to say what most of you don't have the balls to say and I've been doing it for years and I don't plan to stop.


You have balls because you call people out on the Internet, hiding in anonymity?


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-25-2004 20:57:

I'd say it to ATB's face if I had the chance. I don't shy away from that and anything I state on here, I have the balls to say to that person's face in real life (notable exception being redeye_ because he wants to kill me and probably could).


Posted by Omegasox on Apr-25-2004 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
see if you clowns have not realized this but I have the balls to say what you guys only dream about saying.



Posted by Carney on Apr-25-2004 21:01:

what a stupid thread


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-25-2004 21:02:

why is it stupid?

because I said remember sounded like scorchio? or because I dissed ATB?


Posted by Speedy2k on Apr-25-2004 21:40:

It is funny though that nobody really gives a shit if he stole it or not.


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-25-2004 21:42:

I'm sure Sasha's lawyers would if they were not friends. Wait a minute, doubt Sasha would sue...he is not Armin.


Posted by montie on Apr-25-2004 21:51:

i thought that it was titled 'remember' because of the scorchio riff
hence remember the track or whatever

but yeah i got the dedicated CD for my mom right after it first came out, and when remember came on i'm like "ah scorchio"


Posted by montana on Apr-25-2004 22:06:

and to anyone that wants to claim that atb credited sasha or emerson, he did not, i have a friend that has dedicated and it only says tanneberger (or whatever his last name is) & van eyden


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-25-2004 22:12:

so he pulled a josh wink


Posted by nettwerk on Apr-25-2004 22:22:

teh drama... teh horror... teh panic...
+1
inbefo... yadda yadda yadda


Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-25-2004 22:24:

here is teh scorchio credits

Scorchio written by A. Coe/D. Emerson/C. May. Produced by Sasha, Darren Emerson and Charlie May. Engineered by Ollie Jay. Additional programming and twickery by Flipper. Tracks 1 and 3 Edited by Cheeky Paul. Published by EMI Music/Sherlock Holmes Music/Warner Chappell. Recorded at Sarm West. Photographs - Andy Earl. Farrow Design.

tanneberger is nowhere there, hahhaha

got that from discogs


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-25-2004 22:26:

Ollie Jay was involved....interesting

People who have the songs..compare them...the driven guitar in remember sounds identical (slightly altered tho) of Scorchio.


Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-25-2004 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Ollie Jay was involved....interesting

People who have the songs..compare them...the driven guitar in remember sounds identical (slightly altered tho) of Scorchio.


yea, when i saw who was involved in remember, i wanted to see if either was involved with scorchio, but they werent =). scorchio rocks though


Posted by nialsjd on Apr-25-2004 23:59:

I don't see the point of this thread. ATB has made his plethora of songs and we are now basing his entire career over the contreversy of 1 song? prejudice?
Unlike other music genres, trance has a heavy reliance on remixes to promote artists. Look at the big artists and see how much of their career relies on tweaking the works of others. Huge artists come out with 1 original tune per 15 remixes.
i honestly couldn't care if you would disrespect a person in their face. Wether ATB only appeals to .0001% of the trance community, it's still more than you could do with your work. People spend time on money to show what they got, at least give some appreciation for ANY artist trying to promote trance.


Posted by TrancEuphoria on Apr-26-2004 02:17:

What??? Sampling in EDM, I don't what to say as my jaw is hanign wide open. Haha


Posted by TheVrk on Apr-26-2004 04:00:

shitty


Posted by Owen on Apr-26-2004 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Addikted
uve got absolutely no idea what you are talking about
then again ur just a newb

and ur from the gong
poor bastard


You have no fucking idea how much im into electronica music... ahh so your one of them people who judge other members by their avar information. Heaps mature and smart.

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You're a fucking newb too, and you can't even structure sentances properly. Stop flaming him pointlessly unless you've actually got something to put forward yourself.


What he said! Read it over a few times untill it sinks into your narrow minded skull.


Posted by Phu on Apr-26-2004 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
see if you clowns have not realized this but I have the balls to say what you guys only dream about saying. Do I care if Atb and Sasha are friends? I mean the guy made a track that is so Scorchioesque that I believe it is stealing. I've always hated people taking something and making it sound so much like another track, I mean are'nt producers supposed to use their original ideas?. I'm sure Tanneberger has an explanation for that as well but as I stated earlier I have the balls to say what most of you don't have the balls to say and I've been doing it for years and I don't plan to stop.
Can i get your autograph.


Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-26-2004 06:34:

i wish there was a sample. i cant see to *get* it because peoples slots are full.

i really love "scorchio" i have 2 vinyls of scorchio lol. One with 'darren emerson late nite dub', and original and one with the unreleased something or other with 'lupus' on the flip side.

If the ATB track actually sounds like scorchio without giving sasha credit, then sasha should sue like ferry suing piccotto over 'like this like that'


Posted by Cobalt on Apr-26-2004 06:48:

After that whole little fit where ATB went on his forum and posted a long blither about PvD, he does this? My opinion of the guy is in the gutter at this point.


Posted by stupidisco on Apr-26-2004 06:57:

trance is lame.


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