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I hope all those bleeding hearts that vote liberal because they like the soundbytes feel real good right about now.
"Choose Change"... yah, choose someone who changes his mind/word @ every turn.
The man has us paying over $500 a month for his Tropicana Orange juice fetish out of our pockets for fuck sakes, evn when he was in the official opposition.
We also payed for him to go to the States and get PR and Media training to transform him from the spineless weasel he shone through as in previous elections.. around $30,000 was the initial tab for having this cluster-fuck led the province.
God, I actually miss the NDP. 
if u don't like living in Ontario, then leave!
it's just that simple.
I know it's hard in Ontario and we get it up the ass but honestly, there are other places where it's not as bad in Canada. Canada is one huge country. U can go live in BC or something where u don't pay as much taxes.
other than that, quit ur bitching. it won't help anyone.
it's not as simple as simply moving away from Ontario; all my friends and family are here and besides as far as my preferences go I know of no nations with an energy-based economy anyway.
Rocco: Exactly!! Shit or Get off the Pot! Everyone likes to complain and no-one likes to do anything about it, I don't complain about the government because I know I'm not gunna change it.
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| Originally posted by Nephilim_X it's not as simple as simply moving away from Ontario; all my friends and family are here and besides as far as my preferences go I know of no nations with an energy-based economy anyway. |
The weakest arguement anyone can ever have is "if you dont like it then leave"
Meanwhile we bitch and complain about it because we love our country/province but we dont like what is happening to it (big difference here)
To tell people to leave because they dont like a particular style of government, some particular laws etc is truely pathetic. Why should people who want change for the better be told to leave?
As for sweden: last i heard the health care system was bankrupt and they were turning to public/private systems. And no this doesnt mean 2 tier either like the scare mongers like to say.
And although Mcsquinty is just as bad or worse than bob rae.... ILL NEVER MISS THE NDP!
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| Originally posted by Crazy Serb Yeah, and once you vote all these bastards off, you should look into what Sweden has done and maybe set something like that up here. I am not sure, but I think they pay like 75% in taxes, and in return everything is free (health care, education, etc). |
I don't think a General Strike is the answer however McGimpy is breaking election promises left, right and centre! 
I haven't been following the news lately but is he going to remove the taxpayer's protection act thingy he signed with the Tories a few years back? It is my understanding that any sort of tax increase must be consented upon by the voters of Ontario?
Hopefully those who voted for him in the previous election will "choose change" once again and toss this 
out of office.
Then again, all politicians are skillful liars... 
Can't we just vote something like an ape into office? atleast the shit they fling around would be amusing 
If a general strike isnt the answer then what is?
Petitions, editorials, voting, and angry letters to MPs obviously arent working.
What else can we do thats non violent????
I want to recall my MPP. 
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 The weakest arguement anyone can ever have is "if you dont like it then leave" Meanwhile we bitch and complain about it because we love our country/province but we dont like what is happening to it (big difference here) To tell people to leave because they dont like a particular style of government, some particular laws etc is truely pathetic. Why should people who want change for the better be told to leave? As for sweden: last i heard the health care system was bankrupt and they were turning to public/private systems. And no this doesnt mean 2 tier either like the scare mongers like to say. And although Mcsquinty is just as bad or worse than bob rae.... ILL NEVER MISS THE NDP! |
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| Originally posted by Rocco i know. my friends and family are here. There are always compromises that has to be made. live a shitty life with good ppl or live a good life with shitty ppl. this is how i see it. |
We are spoiled. The effect is opposite though. We sit back and let people walk all over us because we have become detached from the world around us. Sadly, we are letting our country slip away little by little and most of us wont realize until its too late.
Remember that 60 years ago, countries like the Ukraine, Afghanistan and Argentina were some of the richest countries in the world. Now think how corruption here is becoming more and more frequent and how many of our civil rights are being taking away.
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 We are spoiled. The effect is opposite though. We sit back and let people walk all over us because we have become detached from the world around us. Sadly, we are letting our country slip away little by little and most of us wont realize until its too late. Remember that 60 years ago, countries like the Ukraine, Afghanistan and Argentina were some of the richest countries in the world. Now think how corruption here is becoming more and more frequent and how many of our civil rights are being taking away. |
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| Originally posted by Rocco lol just remember, when i turn 40 and i have to fight with u in a civil war, we'll see who says "i told u so" |
and Quebec will start it!
LOL
Seriously though... take a lesson in politics and have a look around you. The classic signs of decline are very evident in Canada.
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 and Quebec will start it! LOL Seriously though... take a lesson in politics and have a look around you. The classic signs of decline are very evident in Canada. |
i for one wont let the decay happen without a fight. Im sick of politicians like mcguinty. Just wait until the budget comes down tomorrow. I swear, somebody with balls like maybe the opposition leader or some of the union leaders need to start calling for general strikes to oppose this lying,law breaking premier.
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| Originally posted by Brindor Can't we just vote something like an ape into office? atleast the shit they fling around would be amusing |
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| Originally posted by disko-kandi we already got that 'situation' in the US! |
That what you get for not hailing to the Chimp!
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| Originally posted by Brindor *snip image* That what you get for not hailing to the Chimp! |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 i for one wont let the decay happen without a fight. Im sick of politicians like mcguinty. Just wait until the budget comes down tomorrow. I swear, somebody with balls like maybe the opposition leader or some of the union leaders need to start calling for general strikes to oppose this lying,law breaking premier. |
the common man cannot run for office in Canada any more. Thats half the problem. It takes alot of $$$ to get into office and getting it is what makes these politicians so corrupted by the time they actually do take power. This is why i say a general strike would put the power back in the hands of the people for the cost of a day's wages.
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