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Originally posted by Jayx1 One day you will learn all about Bob Rae and what the NDP did to Ontario, young grasshopper.. heheheh

*cough*



two problems with your argument:

1) Federal and Provinicial parties are two completely different entities.
2) What a government did 10 years ago is irrelevant, party members change, platforms change, etc, etc.

I am voting NDP regardless

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Originally posted by Matt I am voting NDP regardless

ewww...

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Originally posted by crazedcanuck Federal and Provincial are completely different animals. The Conservatives and NDP are the primary options for everyone this year, it should be interesting to see how they split the vote, and what effect it has on the Fibs.

Federal NDP < Provincial NDP (as in Manitoba)

difference between Cons and Lib's

one tells you straight in the eye when they're fucking you in the ass... the other tells you there not fucking you in the ass while still fucking you in the ass.

p.s

I will be voting liberal, its just the lesser of two evils.

i'm voting for the Communist Party of Canada if Swamper decides not to lead a TA political party..

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Originally posted by Jayx1 If this happened, politicians would have to actually listen to what ALL people are saying and people would get more involved and more informed. Right now the only people who get noticed by politicians are special interests and the grannies who are the only people who seem to actually vote.

SO TRUE. SIG's get a lot of attention NOT because they're big, but because they vote as a block. They're always over-represented. That's why farmers get so much subsidies from the government. MmMm public choice theory. The Guvernment Rulez! note spelling.

To paraphrase the alien on the Simpsons

"GO AHEAD AND VOTE NDP.... THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY! MWHAHAHAHAHA"


or my own saying...

those who vote NDP should just hand over all their income to them and then have it redistributed in ration coupons since the NDP seems to think they know better than everyone else when it comes to spending money.


Socialism will never work....

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe difference between Cons and Lib's one tells you straight in the eye when they're fucking you in the ass... the other tells you there not fucking you in the ass while still fucking you in the ass. p.s I will be voting liberal, its just the lesser of two evils.

Liberals are the only evil party.

Avoid at all costs! There are plenty of other choices.

The majority of the people (that I've come across) who don't vote have a SCARY lack of knowledge/interest in politics... They choose to live in a bubble and couldn't care less who is elected to represent them.

Laziness is a factor in the above - but, I'd rather have people who know the issues voting rather than have them act like sheep because they were coerced into showing up at the polls. Although, since election platforms/promises mean nothing that may be a moot point as well.

People aren't going to be excited about voting when they see no accountability on the part of elected officials to follow the mandate of the election platform that got them there in the first place.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf Liberals are the only evil party. Avoid at all costs! There are plenty of other choices.

lol again let me re-iterate(sp?)

liberals = lesser of evils..

i'd prefer not to vote for the conservatives especially since Der Fuhrer Harper is captain of the ship. If we still had PC around, now that would be a possible option to the liberals. And NDP? c'mon now.. Anyone else? Oh yea Rhino party? Green Party? uhh cha wuh?

Anyone left to vote for? doesn't seem so.

Exactly WHAT is it that scare your about harper? Sounds like youve been buying liberal sound bites.

here's a few things I don't like

his stance on abortion, his stance on good christian law abiding Canada, his stance on marijuana (however i could care less about that) his stance on a two tier healthcare, his stance on trying to disavow the $150,000 election support cap.. I can go on and on..

I can even say shit I don't like about Martins stance.. but again.. he is lesser an evil then Harper..

edit: sounds like all you people want is Anarchy, if you think you can run things better, then fucking run for office. Gawd quit your pathetic whining.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Socialism will never work....

Seems to be working in Scandinavia, especially Norway.

"don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"

but yeah, i need to do some research and let my voice be heard.

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe here's a few things I don't like his stance on abortion, his stance on good christian law abiding Canada, his stance on marijuana (however i could care less about that) his stance on a two tier healthcare, his stance on trying to disavow the $150,000 election support cap.. I can go on and on.. I can even say shit I don't like about Martins stance.. but again.. he is lesser an evil then Harper.. edit: sounds like all you people want is Anarchy, if you think you can run things better, then fucking run for office. Gawd quit your pathetic whining.

wow you've fallen for all the Liberal propaganda...


I feel sorry for you actually

Last i hard, sweden and norway were doing a complete overhaul of their socialized medicine and actually forming (god forbid!) private/public partnerships.

We need to start doing the same. Also, france is switching from its socialist model to a more market oriented society because they are on the verge of going bankrupt.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf wow you've fallen for all the Liberal propaganda... I feel sorry for you actually

lol uhhhh what? I'm telling you what I don't like personally about HARPER's stance on social issues. It has nothing to do with "Liberal propaganda" its my own personal preferences.. Just like its your preference to bash on Liberals incessesantly(sp?)

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Originally posted by paul d engineer Go Green Party of Canada!

I second that.

RJ's point #3 is very important, especially now that parties get funding based on number of votes in the last election.

So, if you vote for a party you believe in but that will never win a seat (like the beloved Green), your vote is not wasted. Same holds true if you vote for a mainstream party that's not going to win in your riding.

And Jon, I'll have to agree with you that your education must have been half-assed. HaHa!

ok so what is harpers stand on social issues that is "scary"?

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe lol uhhhh what? I'm telling you what I don't like personally about HARPER's stance on social issues. It has nothing to do with "Liberal propaganda" its my own personal preferences.. Just like its your preference to bash on Liberals incessesantly(sp?)

I ask you again: do you think Harper support two-tired health care?

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Originally posted by Arcticboy I second that. RJ's point #3 is very important, especially now that parties get funding based on number of votes in the last election. So, if you vote for a party you believe in but that will never win a seat (like the beloved Green), your vote is not wasted. Same holds true if you vote for a mainstream party that's not going to win in your riding. And Jon, I'll have to agree with you that your education must have been half-assed. HaHa!

Actually, the Green Party has some excellent policies.

Just as long as you avoid the Lieberals at all costs!!

I am predicting Liberal minority government... which will be a nice change.

But I still vote for NDP

if u want a lib minority or a conservative minority you are best voting for the conservatives.

Dr Goodvibe wrote:


here's a few things I don't like

his stance on abortion ----- i really dont think hes going to repeal the abortion law and if he does hell be a one term wonder

his stance on good christian law abiding Canada -- Chretien was a devout catholic... did that ever affect his ability to govern? No, but greed sure did!

his stance on marijuana- what have the fiberals done in this dept other than allow sick people to smoke it?

his stance on trying to disavow the $150,000 election support cap-- THANK GOD FOR THIS.... This is a huge slap in the face for the very foundation of free speech. I am in fact going to dedicate a whole thread to this scary prospect.

his stance on a two tier healthcare - 2 tier health care?????? all he has said was that we need a private/public partnership in canada to lower costs and deliver more efficient service. He never said he was going to scrap universal health care. Stop believing Liberal and left wing propeganda!!!

I can even say shit I don't like about Martins stance.. but again.. he is lesser an evil then Harper --- HOW? Has harper stolen billions of dollars? Sorry... most of that simply went "missing". We can only prove that the Fiberals actually STOLE 100 million of it. Has Harper repeatedly lied to us just as Martin and CHretien did?

edit: sounds like all you people want is Anarchy, if you think you can run things better, then fucking run for office. Gawd quit your pathetic whining. ------ I dont want anarchy... i want a general strike to make sure the elected government remembers why we elected them!

he looks fucking evil :P





also, you missed the point of my post... PREDICT... not WANT.

I want a minority NDP government, but I predict a Liberal minority.

The bottom line is we need a minority gov't because the Liberals have had total control for too long (and their gov't has really fallen apart since the Martin/Chretien split). I like the prospect of a minority gov't because parties start to work together for votes, compromises are made, etc. etc. I would prefer the NDP in power, because they represent Canada on the international front, and I agree with NDP's stances on several foreign policy issues.

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