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Posted by FC`Noir on Jun-03-2004 10:03:

The Good
Decent array of samples, keeps the mix fresh and moving.

The Bad
We've all heard this bassline a billion times before. Try working with some more creativity with the sample.
Some of the samples, mainly percussion, get lost in the song. Hihats are blasted into inaudible "clicks". There seems to be nothing but the hihat panned. There also seems to be no reverb or compression what-so-ever, making the entire mix fairly flat.

Overall
We've heard much of this all before, so i only say this track is OK. Work on EQing things, adding compression and reverb.


Posted by Luke Terry on Jun-03-2004 10:10:

Cool



sounds pretty mint, bass is a bit thin and sounds rather sqauareish which is ok but doesnt fit too well. there is a shitload of clipping. build doesnt really build, it just starts too intense and doesn't go anywhere. break is nice and melody is excellent. the high frequencies seem to be a bit non-existant and the percs sound fairly dry and poor quality. some of the fx are somewhat too loud and something just doesnt sit together with the tune sounding right for me. good effort, but sort the levels


Posted by John on Jun-03-2004 13:31:

heey mate, this is some good shit! love the breakdown and the fx are awesome. melody is nice too imo and the synths are good
you need to fix the levels though, like luke said. and i was expecting a second breakdown/climax, now the outro seems a little long too me.
nice track!

john


Posted by EternalMusic on Jun-03-2004 16:24:

Hi guys!
Thanks for the nice comments! I was thinking about a second Breakdown, will take a look at it again .
Arghh i thought this time the master was good, most of the times i have too much high freq. What should be the limit for the highs? 5db? And should the perc be on a high or low freq?

Thanks! Glad you like it.


Posted by Jay M on Jun-03-2004 21:54:

Nice stereo tune m8

It is clipping indeed, the absolute limit for everything is 0 db! You're using fruity right? Try to put "Inspector" or so on the Master channel and make sure nothing clips. Or just begin with turning the volume of the instruments down, helped for me... Many ambient things going on, nice job on that. Could you mention the vst's you used for them?

Nice work!


Posted by Avro on Jun-04-2004 02:04:

was there a repost cause I dont hear any clipping - unless my system isn't good enough to pick it up.

but anyway really killer tune. I personally think that the bassline is fairly unique and has variety. However I am a fan of baseline melodies changing within the intro. IMHO if the intro is not exciting the whole song isnt exciting. (into = first 2 min)

you know how there are some tracks you can put on and listen from start to finish, and then there are others that you have to skip through the first couple mins? well I find myself wanting to skip to the breakdown.

A+ work tho


Posted by FC`Noir on Jun-04-2004 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Avro
but anyway really killer tune. I personally think that the bassline is fairly unique and has variety.


How can one measure repeated, constantly, in the standard Euro-style that anybody who can hit an arp can play in..unique or with variety?


Posted by EternalMusic on Jun-04-2004 08:48:

quote:
Originally posted by FC`Noir
How can one measure repeated, constantly, in the standard Euro-style that anybody who can hit an arp can play in..unique or with variety?


Its all about taste


Posted by dbl on Jun-04-2004 10:20:

sounds really nice... i think that the lead could be stronger thou...


Posted by EternalMusic on Jun-04-2004 15:35:

Thanks dbl!

Jay thanks for the Stereo advice! . I dont have a specific VST to make the ambience part. Sometimes I just play with a strange sound i find , add some reverb delay, (stereo), and thats it . For these FX i used Claw,Pro53,FM7.

Thanks again for your support .


Posted by M1cro5lave on Jun-04-2004 18:10:

At first listen I said to myself, this is an awesome track. Excellent mastering and great sound.
After a while I heard some frequences sticking out in the sound effects and in the melody at times. Too loud imo.
The bassline kicks ass, and the main melody is excellent.

But it needs mastering with frequences and maybe you should consider using the main melody somewhere in the end too, I was enjoying it, and hoped for some more to come, but I got bored with the monotonic sound throughout the whole track after that.

It was a great start, but then it got all boring...too bad, I hope you do something about it, cuz it could be one **** of a track if you just fixed the small problems in it. I'm not much into this stuff about producing, but I hope you see what I mean.
Good work


Posted by Avro on Jun-04-2004 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by FC`Noir
How can one measure repeated, constantly, in the standard Euro-style that anybody who can hit an arp can play in..unique or with variety?


you will find that bass line patterns are limited and being creative with those paterns is what makes a bass line unique.

let me refer you to the Royal Conservatory of music Preliminary and Grade 1 Rudiments. (just for you) http://www.rcmusic.ca/ContentPage.a..._SUMMER_TORONTO

That said, can you please provide me with an example of a trance song that has some out of this world bass line? When you fail, which you will - you will see that during the climax of "Aloof" actually has some decent effort with the bass line. yes it sounds familiar, but which bassline doesn't?

I would not compare that to typical euro cheese.


Posted by FC`Noir on Jun-06-2004 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Avro
you will find that bass line patterns are limited and being creative with those paterns is what makes a bass line unique.

That said, can you please provide me with an example of a trance song that has some out of this world bass line? When you fail, which you will - you will see that during the climax of "Aloof" actually has some decent effort with the bass line. yes it sounds familiar, but which bassline doesn't?

I would not compare that to typical euro cheese.



OKAY learn to read. Then try to make some comments, please.

To clarify, I said that bassline was very typical of euro trance. Which it is. You cant dispute that. Also, I never said cheese. You did.

The whole reason i brought up his generic bassline, is because i dont really care to hear the same shit over and over. Play with the sample, add EQ, screw with the arp formation. Just a suggestion, which he asked for. Sorry that, that bothers you.


Posted by A.J. on Jun-06-2004 02:30:

Great stuff!!!!

Very driving sound, i really like this.


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