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contracts and residency agreements are by territory not by company. because a company i am a resident for in one city expands to another it does not automatically make me a resident in the new city...

mg

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Originally posted by Your Mother Dude, get a fucking clue... I said they were residents, I never said they are going to shut down the Guv. Who does the Guvernment have as their resident(s)??? Mark Fucking Oliver... not bad, but not great either, and to suggest he's even in the same ballpark as the DJ's I mentioned would show how little you really know. When a promoter can have that level of talent as their resident dj's then just think of the type of talent they can pull in on any given night (I've seen it happen many times). If the docks (with Spundae/GK) went up against the Guvernment head-to-head on Saturday nights, the Docks could easily steal the Guv's client-base. All they have to do is provide a comparable sound-system, comparable light-show, and a better DJ lineup. The first 2 are most likely in place due to the recent renovations, and the last will be a joke with someone like Spundae/GK backing it. Whether or not Spundae/GK backs a Saturday night party remains to be seen. Why does the Guv typically bring in many of the top DJ's on Thursday nights and not Saturday nights? Its because they don't have nearly as much pull or respect as the big promoters in the global clubbing community. The big boys get who they want first... they have the most money, and they are the promoters that everyone wants to play for. The level of power and influence that Spundae/GK has dwarfs anything the Guv can come up with. -Your Mother

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Originally posted by dEsidEL altho i don't necessarily agree with everything that you said .. kudos for speaking your mind on this..

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Originally posted by max graham contracts and residency agreements are by territory not by company. because a company i am a resident for in one city expands to another it does not automatically make me a resident in the new city... mg

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Originally posted by Skipper well if there are badass bitches there, I'm there too.

You are one bad ass bitch Sarah.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Hahahhah id like to see you pull it off. If i were MO id call your bluff and hand over the controls to you for a Saturday night and then fuck off to mexico for a vacation. Im betting the place would be closed by 3....

btw, Mark only spins from 11 - 7 (8 hours).

You give me 8 hours worth of vinyl and a month to learn it and I would have no problem keeping that place going... you know nothing about me; you've never heard me spin; you don't know my style. You draw conclusions based on nothing. Contrary to your belief, playing at a club like the Guv is not much different from playing at smaller venues.

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by MarkT I'm staying out of the debate...but I agree 100% with both of those statements! I think Toronto's got plenty of int'l calibre talent in its residents like Deko-ze, Addy, Mark Oliver...

I have never heard a bad set from a System resident. And I agree that TO has alot of great residents... some of which are starting to get the recognition they deserve (ie. Luke Fair).

-Your Mother

funny how the only retort to what i had to say was "he only plays 8 hours"

Well i have news for you. I have yet to see a night when hes not there by 10.

But since you only come on New Years Eve you know it all i guess...

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Originally posted by Jayx1 So you show up once a year and suddenly you are an expert at what goes on at the guv every sat night? Not to mention you show up on a night where the theme of the night is club anthems of years gone by. Come by on a normal saturday night, stay the whole night and then give me a proper review please.

I'm guessing I've seen Mark spin over 40 times of which at least 30 were marathon sets (since back in 98/99, the Guv rarely brought in other DJ's to spin). Of those 40 or so, very rarely have I ever walked away from the club impressed with the way his set went. The reason I keep coming back to the club is because the vibe is second to none and being with my friends makes up for my opinion of the music.

If thats not good enough for you, I have a number of friends who have partied at the club on a more consistent basis and they all share the same opinion as I do. And these are all people who know the difference between a good set and a bad set.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 #2: i have worked with many many guest djs over the years at various venues whom have thrown their hands up as soon as their contracted time was over and demanded that the next DJ start immediately. There are a few notable exceptions of course but by and large this has been the rule.

That has nothing to do with my original post. My post was related to how long DJ's typically like to spin. I never talked about them playing longer sets... If I was a top DJ getting paid a shit load of money to play a 3 hr set and the next person isn't ready to go when I'm finished then I have a right to be pissed. If I play over then are you going to pay me for that? If you were paying me $5K an hour and I played an extra 5 minutes, should I ask for an extra $400 because I played those 5 extra minutes?

My guess is that most DJ's if you asked them nicely would have no problem playing a few extra minutes. I can only think of a select few (eg. Oakie, Lawler, Boy George) that might throw their hands in the air. Can you please throw out some names of people that have caused you grief. Thanks.

-Your Mother

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Originally posted by Jayx1 funny how the only retort to what i had to say was "he only plays 8 hours" Well i have news for you. I have yet to see a night when hes not there by 10. But since you only come on New Years Eve you know it all i guess...

If you ever bothered to watch him you would realize that he almost always throws a chill-out CD on to warm the place up... Rarely will you see him mixing anything before 11pm.

-Your Mother

Trust me.... i HAVE watched him

Jayx1, Why dont you tell "your mother" what you do? In my opinion Mark has more upfront music and a stronger selection than many of the spundae residents. G&D as producers are without a doubt fantastic but as dj's need to grow. J Bonham does nothing for me at all, but thats just me. Max Graham is solid and deserves his props. lets not shit on Mark since he has outshined many guests at Guv over the years and does a good job at supporting the music. Guv could easily have z103 in the house with Biggs and Danny D. Just like the Docks did in the past.

Bottom line its a nice change for the Docks and TO

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Originally posted by Your Mother I have never heard a bad set from a System resident. And I agree that TO has alot of great residents... some of which are starting to get the recognition they deserve (ie. Luke Fair). -Your Mother

Luke Fair...another reliable resident who he never ceazes to impress me when I hear him spin!

I'm agree with East Londoner...the bottom line for us is we will be getting more party options..."oh damn, Guv and Docks are battling it out by bringing in huge names every other week"...gee, wouldn't that suck for us?

East Londoner, thats exactly my point. IMO the more clubs the better. But since guv bashing seems to be the cool thing to do i just had to say something about it. And anyone who denies that certain local residents have had a huge impact here have their heads in their asses. Im not saying you should like or dislike a particular DJ. What i am saying is that their acheivements should be seen for what they are. I dont like paul oakenfold for example but hes definately made a huge mark on the electronic music scene.

Ill keep saying it, the more options we have in Toronto the better...

Period..

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