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Posted by nrjizer on May-27-2004 21:29:

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Originally posted by slinkyhead
like mista said i noticed that tiesto said he wanted to play an entire 8hour set using just his productions. this can only be good IMO. It signifies a progression from being a DJ to an artist and help make djs more respected in the wider music circle


If he's going to do that, lets see him do it on sequencers/keyboards/etc (live PA) and get creative with it. Watching Tiesto mix his own tracks for hours would be stupid and pointless. We listen to Live PA's by artists playing their tracks. We listen to DJ's because they aren't bound by the tracks they've made and practiced - just about every piece of music ever is available for them to play, manipulate, and combine. Not that Tiesto has done much more than just mixing tracks, but if he's going to do an artist show, he should do it right.


Posted by nrjizer on May-27-2004 21:39:

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Originally posted by torontotrance
Other thing is that all deejays do is play their record label tunes as well, just to make more money. I have a problem with that, not making money but forcing your tunes down someone's throat. We all know what happened to Pete Tong in 1996, he got fined for playing too many songs that he had invested interest in (really ones that FFRR owned or he had a % in the label)

I really think deejays have gone too much off the path. I mean we had superstar deejays in the mid 90's but they were more celebrated for playing records that you did not have. Now with the internet and mp3, that is not the case anymore. Paul van Dyk, Armin van Buuren, Tiesto are all deejays that the ones like me that don't enjoy anymore....but completely loved at one point. Most deejays are far too busy with things to put the effort into things anymore, I mean where is Paul van Dyk's emotional epic trancers that took the words out of my mouth. No heart, no soul in music anymore, just plain old $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and the music is suffering. You want to take a look at sets, look the djmixes2k sets, most of them are so similar, it makes me puke, everyone plays what armin and co do. Be yourself, find your own records. See if I was a dj, I'd be playing lesser known records that rocked, I'd be hunting for smaller releases and hammering that, it got Anthony Pappa to the A list of deejays.


So very, very true. A lot of established DJ's will tell you that you need to produce to get anywhere these days - I think the key is setting your name apart from the rest. Like James Zabiela.

It really is a downward spiral. PvD's tracklists of the last few years have been lame at best. Tiesto has degraded horribly in terms of selection and mixing. Hell, just about all the big names are riding the same sinking ship. Even Sasha's tracklists aren't too difficult to trainspot these days.

But I think in the end some good will come of this. I was reading an interview with James Zabiela last night and he mentioned that these days mixing on 2 decks won't get you anywhere. All the up and comers are going to have to work their asses off for it and set themselves apart. Guys like him are definately the future. Props to James.


Posted by idoru on May-28-2004 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Other thing is that all deejays do is play their record label tunes as well, just to make more money. I have a problem with that, not making money but forcing your tunes down someone's throat. We all know what happened to Pete Tong in 1996, he got fined for playing too many songs that he had invested interest in (really ones that FFRR owned or he had a % in the label)

I really think deejays have gone too much off the path. I mean we had superstar deejays in the mid 90's but they were more celebrated for playing records that you did not have. Now with the internet and mp3, that is not the case anymore. Paul van Dyk, Armin van Buuren, Tiesto are all deejays that the ones like me that don't enjoy anymore....but completely loved at one point. Most deejays are far too busy with things to put the effort into things anymore, I mean where is Paul van Dyk's emotional epic trancers that took the words out of my mouth. No heart, no soul in music anymore, just plain old $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and the music is suffering. You want to take a look at sets, look the djmixes2k sets, most of them are so similar, it makes me puke, everyone plays what armin and co do. Be yourself, find your own records. See if I was a dj, I'd be playing lesser known records that rocked, I'd be hunting for smaller releases and hammering that, it got Anthony Pappa to the A list of deejays.


I bow to you, sir.

I'm just starting to DJ myself, and currently I'm playing the more popular songs. Personally, I have trouble finding quality tunes that no one has heard before. I play a bunch of tunes from friends on Soulseek, but I have very little when compared to the rest of the records I spin.


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