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hell yeah! its worth it if you get a chance to take a ride in a MiG-25!! max speed of somewhere around Mach 2.8 from memory!! thats FAST!!



would become an expensive trip pretty quickly if you wanted a go in a coupla of the hotrods the ruskis got to offer, Mig-29, -25, Su-27/Su-30

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Standard flight on Su-27: Breaking the sound barrier tail-slide Pugachev�s cobra roll immelman loop split-S climbing and powerful climbing diving and powerful diving turns and powerful turns both by flight instructor as well as the customer

wonder how many G's you would feel pulling each of those moves. and the last one sounds especially fun, taking the controls!

-edit- all the prices on the various russian adventure sites are all in USD. those red commies sure picked up the capitalist train of thinking pretty quickly!

sif not fly in Australia's airforce. 68 operational F-18 Hornets!

but the budget only allows 1 plane to take off the ground twice a year. but wait theres more!!!! the australian army get to fire 1 test missle on training runs... .THATS RIGHT YOU HEARD IT HERE...
1 TEST MISSILE!!!! woww what a deal

join the army reserves, and let them make a man out of you
(note gurners will die when the g's start cramming your ribcage bahaha)

Couple of things I might add to the discussion in my interloperness.

1: Helen, you said the Farnsborough show is in 2002

2: The harrier does not rotate the engine itself, it rotates 4 exhaust nozzles (2 per side) for VSTOL. Another odd harrier fact, it requires several hundred gallons of water be carrier on board for cooling when in Vertical flight.

3: The A-380 has to actually fly before it can change the way people travel.

4: Discovery Wings is one of the best channels ever. Wings of the Red Star is one of my favs.

5: Airshows are cool, though I have not been to one since I was a little kid. I know I went the first year the USAF Thunderbirds flew the F-16 which was 1983.

6: Flying in a Mig29 would be pretty cool....it is was the last non-FlyByWire fighter jet produced in the USSR and has a thrust to weight ratio that makes it able to fly at an insane angle of attack without stalling (I believe it is like 80 degrees).

7: Planes are cool. (should be #1)

MrS

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Originally posted by r e z sif not fly in Australia's airforce. 68 operational F-18 Hornets! but the budget only allows 1 plane to take off the ground twice a year. but wait theres more!!!! the australian army get to fire 1 test missle on training runs... .THATS RIGHT YOU HEARD IT HERE... 1 TEST MISSILE!!!! woww what a deal join the army reserves, and let them make a man out of you (note gurners will die when the g's start cramming your ribcage bahaha)

Heh...funny.

Super Hornets are the way to go.

btw Rez...you are welcome for the avatar. (I made the avatar sized animation )

MrS

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel 6: Flying in a Mig29 would be pretty cool....it is was the last non-FlyByWire fighter jet produced in the USSR and has a thrust to weight ratio that makes it able to fly at an insane angle of attack without stalling (I believe it is like 80 degrees). MrS

Yeah it is the only plane ever built to be able to do that.. I think it was called the cobra manoeuvre.
funny how this thread has taken a sharp dive wayyy off topic.
but yes. planes are indeed cool!


ps. MrS. was it you that made it??? haha i found it on google. shitload of people are currently using this on atm. GOOD STUFF

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Originally posted by r e z Yeah it is the only plane ever built to be able to do that.. I think it was called the cobra manoeuvre. funny how this thread has taken a sharp dive wayyy off topic. but yes. planes are indeed cool! ps. MrS. was it you that made it??? haha i found it on google. shitload of people are currently using this on atm. GOOD STUFF

Actually, the SU-37 can fly at an angle of attack of like 105 degrees, but it has thrust vectoring so that doesn't really count lol.

I think the F-22 can theoretically fly forward while past straight up as well...thrust vectoring is the coolio.

You found it on google? Damn.....I guess phlotron has been using it as an avatar on here for close to a year so it wouldn;t surprise me that there are a lot of people using it. And I checked it in image ready, it is the same one lol.

MrS (the american interloper)

EDIT: p.s. This was my 1000th "counted" post on TA

yeah actaully i think it was the su-37
mate i used to be obsessed with fighters, even started making models. until i realised... drugs and superglue dont mix

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Originally posted by r e z ps. MrS. was it you that made it??? haha i found it on google. shitload of people are currently using this on atm. GOOD STUFF

i actually have the album cover where it comes from i believe...

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel 3: The A-380 has to actually fly before it can change the way people travel. MrS

Shame on you for dissing the A380!!! It will fly and it will be a great aircrfat though the fact of the matter is, it will NEVER fit more then 650-odd people on it! One of my friends works for QANTAS and her jobs been trying to determine the optimum seat layout for QANTAS's A380's for the last few months and they wont have more then about 600 on them. Airbus's quote of "up to 850 seats" was based on floor area but because of the cylindrical shape of the fuselage, you cant use the majority of the area on the top floor (unless your about a 4 ft midget or you dont mind lying down for the entire trip! ).

Good ol airbus - apprently dodgy as fuck in this respect but you cant beat the price!!

let's get back to basics for a sec.....

does anybody else still find it amazing that something that big and heavy can actually stay in the air?? no matter how many planes i see in the air, every single time i'm blown away that it actually manages to stay up there.....amazing!!

and as a side note to the girls....don't ever date a pilot!!! my father is one, so i've got lotsa first-hand knowledge of the fact that NOTHING will ever come between a pilot and planes....not even women....the almost pathological love of a pilot for their planes is almost scarey!! *lol*

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Originally posted by Beemer and as a side note to the girls....don't ever date a pilot!!! my father is one, so i've got lotsa first-hand knowledge of the fact that NOTHING will ever come between a pilot and planes....not even women....the almost pathological love of a pilot for their planes is almost scarey!! *lol*

haha umm thats just a little naive, really men dont let women get in between anything they hold dear :P .

stop feeding these poor girls hope that men will one day come around

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Originally posted by r e z haha umm thats just a little naive, really men dont let women get in between anything they hold dear :P . stop feeding these poor girls hope that men will one day come around

hahaha true....just saying i've noticed it to be ESPECIALLY true of pilots - they're amongst the worst e.g. the day i was born, my father's workmates actually had to force him to go to the hospital - he woulda been happier to stay at work and fly!!

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Originally posted by lethal Shame on you for dissing the A380!!! It will fly and it will be a great aircrfat though the fact of the matter is, it will NEVER fit more then 650-odd people on it! One of my friends works for QANTAS and her jobs been trying to determine the optimum seat layout for QANTAS's A380's for the last few months and they wont have more then about 600 on them. Airbus's quote of "up to 850 seats" was based on floor area but because of the cylindrical shape of the fuselage, you cant use the majority of the area on the top floor (unless your about a 4 ft midget or you dont mind lying down for the entire trip! ). Good ol airbus - apprently dodgy as fuck in this respect but you cant beat the price!!

No aircraft configured in the manner that US carriers, and it appears Qantas as well configure their planes could fit the stated capacity. Those figures are for 1 class economy seating throughout the aircraft. Hell in a one class configuration, a 747-400 can hold on the order of 600 passengers while United and Qantas fly them at a little over half that. Some Europena airlines will configure their planes in the "cattle car" fashion, I know that Lufthansa flys A340s with as many people crammed into them as possible.

Call me biased (because I am) but I do not think the A380 will have as great an impact as the 747 did.

Of course, it will probably have a bigger impact on you in Australia than me being in the US because of it's ability to carry more passengers, and passenger capacty is what matters when you are as far away from the desired destinations as Australia is.

The 777 is my favorite plane to fly on. It holds a ton of passengers (over 300 in a 3 class config) and the coach seats are nice and wide and there is decent leg room. Hell, the 777 is alamost as tall (1m shorter) and has a larger wingspan that a 747 (the wingtips actually fold for taxi-ing so it can fit itn the same footprint as a 747-400).

I am rambling.....but one must note this when talking about Airbus and how everyone flys them in Europe. Airbus is partially owned by the governments of France, Germany, Italy, and the UK so they are basically a subsidised aircraft manufacturer. I am sure there is also pressure on airlines to buy them by their governments as well. It is difficult for a privately funded company like boeing (especially under the poor management they have had in recent years) to compete on such an uneven playing field.

MrS

EDIT: Sorry, I meant Spain, not Italy....the Italians are in on a different aerospace conglomerate for military aircraft.

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Originally posted by Beemer hahaha true....just saying i've noticed it to be ESPECIALLY true of pilots - they're amongst the worst e.g. the day i was born, my father's workmates actually had to force him to go to the hospital - he woulda been happier to stay at work and fly!!

yeah if i had a daughter like you that attended raves and did drugs, i'd wanna be at work everyday flying as far away as i can!!

haha oops did i say that out loud. ok ok, that was harsh and uncalled for. SORRYYYYYYYYYY it just screamed a smart arse remark.. may god strike down upon me!

was nice knowing ya rez, START RUNNING!!!

haha yeah it was pretty harsh... the guilt has started to take me over...

but at least i didnt resort to the childish behaviour of many, i left her personal assetts (avatar) out of joke. or was that a joke within itself.. hmmmmmm

haha if i worried bout personal comments on a net board, i woulda left TA a while ago.....but, i'm one of these enlightened ppl who can give and take shit on the net cos i don't equate it to normal life away from the net

besides, i was the one who flew away from that particular parental unit - not the other way round

sif ever fly away...
no board, no cooking, no washing, no cleaning
i love my parents. hoho

maybe i could live with you beemer, im house trained. honest

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Originally posted by r e z sif ever fly away... no board, no cooking, no washing, no cleaning i love my parents. hoho maybe i could live with you beemer, im house trained. honest

i said i flew away from THAT parental unit...as in one of them - not both my mum rocks....hence why i moved back home to her brand new house a year ago to save for my europe trip....hehehe and judging from ur interactions with other ppl's mothers that have been alluded to on this forum, i'm keepin u well away from mine....hence, no u may not move in with me

dude i was the one advocating the protection of our dear mothers...
i am just misunderstood, but then again...
while your in europe.. who wil be protecting your home??

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Originally posted by r e z dude i was the one advocating the protection of our dear mothers... i am just misunderstood, but then again... while your in europe.. who wil be protecting your home??

my 55kg rottweiler....

still wanna move in??

sure

hehehe okay...truth be told she's the biggest baby, and such a sook....meaning that at night ur gonna have to take over my role - that is, sleep on about 10cm of my queen size bed, with an inch of doona, while the dog owns the rest of the bed and doona, and refuses to move her big fat butt unless u get outta bed, go the kitchen, get a biscuit and put it on the part of the bed u want her to move to *lol*

awwwww gonna miss my doggies

think we've hijacked this thread enuff!!

its ok i'll take care of them...
so when you get back, i'll be your doggy *licks*

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Originally posted by r e z its ok i'll take care of them... so when you get back, i'll be your doggy *licks*

pics or stfu

eta - speaking of that....paulie wants to know if he's allowed to show me ur pic...hehehe

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