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Originally posted by aeroheli Yea. I heard that for every head you chop off you get one extra babe added to your harem in heaven! 5 more for suicide bombings.

72 virgins are waiting for me in heaven...

its all about , traditions and the way of life ... i know for a fact that , middle eastern ppl have the greatest hospitality among every other nation... its the way theyve been brought out ...
think about it . u go to some place where ppl have low standards of living (e.g: cuba, iran, ...), always have a smile on their face ... treat u well (in most cases ) these ppls hospitality is just great ,, ,,,
buttt , if u go to some rich neighborhood, they treat you like shittttttt.

funny how the countries with so little are usually the warmest and friendliest...

its a sad irony actually.

lol. haha

i am just laughing reading all of your posts about new immigrants, although i am fairly new i would say about 2.5 yrs here

I stayed in the middle-east most my life, although me beign indian, not all middle-eastern people are nice.

i think you are all generalising, you find the same every part of the world.lol

consider yourselves lucky since you met the best bunch.

this thread is a fucking embarassment to trance addict

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Originally posted by Cyrus King 72 virgins are waiting for me in heaven...

You guys are so lucky I don't get that

Agreed about the small towns. Travelling around european towns we were literally thrown into homes, fed huge amounts of food, and while the chicks talked in the living room us guys usually went down to the basement and got drunk off the wine.

Good times.

Outside of immigrants and family in Canada I have never seen this level of hospitality.

Of course I don't think many people here have a huge wine and beer cellar in their basement.

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Originally posted by d!abolic That's unrealistic. How about we switch 100,000 to 500,000 and 75,000 to 50,000? There, NOW choose And keep in mind that while initially, the first person will have much less time than the second, that reality will one day be reversed.

that's not even realistic. choose between living right at the poverty line, like what is it 16,000? and in the confortable level at like 75,000. there is no way any person would pick the poverty line.

there is not much difference between 100,000 and 75,000.

but this thread is pissing me off. why are you referring to middle eastern people as "them"? are these people a different species. why would you ever think that they wouldn't open the door for you? or give you a coffee for free if you forgot your change? you were expecting a huge deal to be made just because they were from the middle east?

and to those that are from the middle east, why are you not pissed at being called "them"?

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess that's not even realistic. choose between living right at the poverty line, like what is it 16,000? and in the confortable level at like 75,000. there is no way any person would pick the poverty line. there is not much difference between 100,000 and 75,000. but this thread is pissing me off. why are you referring to middle eastern people as "them"? are these people a different species. why would you ever think that they wouldn't open the door for you? or give you a coffee for free if you forgot your change? you were expecting a huge deal to be made just because they were from the middle east? and to those that are from the middle east, why are you not pissed at being called "them"?

BEcuase its expected. Western media has stigmatized much of the population into thinking middle eastern people are less 'civilized', even though we were the first to create civilizations.

I think he Diabolic wasnt intending to segregate us as "them" becuase he is conditioned to thinking its normal. Maybe hell understand now.

Thanks for pointing that out though stereoprincess

We are different, you should celeberate the differences in culture rather than just trying to sweep it under a rug and calling us all one.

What a boring world it would be if we were all the same.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King BEcuase its expected. Western media has stigmatized much of the population into thinking middle eastern people are less 'civilized', even though we were the first to create civilizations. I think he Diabolic wasnt intending to segregate us as "them" becuase he is conditioned to thinking its normal. Maybe hell understand now.

I take offense at this comment. The suggestion that "we" as a culture have been conditioned to look upon middle eastern cultures and peoples in this manner is rather offensive.
While this may be true in some small segments of the population, I believe that the majority of people are far more tolerant and understanding than you may believe.
Your belief that "we" as a culture think such negative attitudes are the norm and are now acceptable adds fuel to the fire and perpepuates a rift.

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Originally posted by JRinger I take offense at this comment. The suggestion that "we" as a culture have been conditioned to look upon middle eastern cultures and peoples in this manner is rather offensive. While this may be true in some small segments of the population, I believe that the majority of people are far more tolerant and understanding than you may believe. Your belief that "we" as a culture think such negative attitudes are the norm and are now acceptable adds fuel to the fire and perpepuates a rift.

Like it or not, i truly beleive that the majority of western mentality percieves the middle east and its people in the way the media has presented them as. There are very few people that look up to the middle east and its people after september 11th, and even before with the representation of middle easterners as savage terrorists wanting to kill white people and beating thier hejab covered wives.

You cannot deny that there are more negative opinions regarding the middle east than there are positive ones.

I have friends from Kuwait, Pakistan, Iran etc... ive always found them to be much more real and down to earth than most normal canadians. ANd yes i refer to them as "them" because they are middle eastern and asian and i am not. Fuck that Political correct BS about us all being one. If this were the case we wouldnt have so many government programs identifying "different groups" for special help.

CNN is full of shit anyways... i never believe what they say. I dont watch them much at all anymore especially after the Sars/mad cow/iraq BS which showed how biased they really are.

Yeah but you can't realy blame the media for that I don't really see a lot of positive things comming out of the middle east anyways...like it or not it's just the fact of life...
I'm not saying they are bad people...but i wouldn't really just blame the media for that...

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Like it or not, i truly beleive that the majority of western mentality percieves the middle east and its people in the way the media has presented them as. There are very few people that look up to the middle east and its people after september 11th, and even before with the representation of middle easterners as savage terrorists wanting to kill white people and beating thier hejab covered wives.

I suppose i chose my words poorly.
I don't deny that most major media outlets, like CNN, have been responsible for a lot of negative portrayal.
I was offended more at the suggestion that most people, particularly outside the US, can't see through the fear- and hate-mongering.
I believe the perception that all Westerners look down upon Middle Eastern cultures creates a self-fulfilling prophecy, and the suggestion that we've all been brainwashed by the media is offensive to anyone who can think for themselves.

I'm a torontonian and a canadian and I'm not greedy, nor rude, nor all these things people are saying we are...

not really sure why even still its point at the majority.like said earlier there is good and bad seeds in all places

HOWEVER

I will argue that immigrants to this country and city are not all pleasant and sweet as pie. fuk that no way.

and if they are its only going to be that way till they fully outnumber us and can then start getting away with being their bastard selves.

I'm from scarborough in the thick of it all and they dont care about this place except for making their lives better. People who live in it know what its about, those outside of it DO NOT HAVE A CLUE!

Yes there are good and bad everywhere but i cant deny the fact that i could never ever see the same kind of hospitality ive seen elsewhere in Toronto... people here simply arent as nice/friendly/trusting nor do they have the time or the will.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I have friends from Kuwait, Pakistan, Iran etc... ive always found them to be much more real and down to earth than most normal canadians. ANd yes i refer to them as "them" because they are middle eastern and asian and i am not. Fuck that Political correct BS about us all being one. If this were the case we wouldnt have so many government programs identifying "different groups" for special help. CNN is full of shit anyways... i never believe what they say. I dont watch them much at all anymore especially after the Sars/mad cow/iraq BS which showed how biased they really are.

Pakistani's and (even afghani's) are not considered middle eastern. Pakistan is south asian.

This is why i said middle eastern AND ASIAN..



I know better

i can't believe that some of you are still trying to group canada with US. if you want to really be a proud canadian then watch bowling for columbine.

diabolic starting this thread, makes him look like a retard. and all of you talking about this race and that being one way or the other, you are all retarded too. there are good and bad people in all races, fuck. no matter if they are immigrants or if they are true born canadians.

forget cnn "brainwashing", brainwashing only works on retards.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Yes there are good and bad everywhere but i cant deny the fact that i could never ever see the same kind of hospitality ive seen elsewhere in Toronto... people here simply arent as nice/friendly/trusting nor do they have the time or the will.

i know that you claim to have travelled all over. you really think that toronto is any friendlier than any other city? people's friendliness to you is a reflection of how friendly you are to them. seriously.

Toronto is not very friendly at all. And people's dispositions are definately different everywhere. How shocked was i when i was in latin america and europe and had complete strangers offer me rides to places. Try even asking for directions in downtown toronto.... good luck

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Toronto is not very friendly at all. And people's dispositions are definately different everywhere. How shocked was i when i was in latin america and europe and had complete strangers offer me rides to places. Try even asking for directions in downtown toronto.... good luck

ahh, ok, i thought your post was worded weird. just missing a comma.

Once again you can't compare cause in south america there are quite a few people who would gladly chop off your arm just to get the watch or jewelery off it... If not worse...


And it has nothing to do with being civilized or not civilized it's just how things are in the world, different places different lives so get over it already

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Originally posted by starsearcher Once again you can't compare cause in south america there are quite a few people who would gladly chop off your arm just to get the watch or jewelery off it... If not worse... And it has nothing to do with being civilized or not civilized it's just how things are in the world, different places different lives so get over it already

What a rediculous comment! Ive spent 7 months of my life there and nothing ever happened to me or any of the friends i met down there. On the flipside of that ive been in the same room as where someone got shot and murdered in Canada. So what does that mean?

Stupidity disclaimer: im not saying that Canada has more crime because of that one incident... when i speak of differences i have more than one example to back me up.

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