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Posted by djtrinity on Jul-02-2004 18:56:

if the nou 5 is made like the smac30's or 40's i would stay away......its isn't made well IMO eq knobs wobble like crazy .....it offers nothing more than other mixers in the same category.....i ordered a smac 40 didn't even play 2 records on it...it was up on ebay that fast......thats what i thought of the quality of the mixer

Posted by on Jul-03-2004 00:18:

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Originally posted by djtrinity
if the nou 5 is made like the smac30's or 40's i would stay away......its isn't made well IMO eq knobs wobble like crazy .....it offers nothing more than other mixers in the same category.....i ordered a smac 40 didn't even play 2 records on it...it was up on ebay that fast......thats what i thought of the quality of the mixer

Damn.. thats one prolly the first bad thing I have ever heard of Ecler products... I have never played on a Ecler before.. but from previous reviews I have only heard great things...

The one thing that Prod. and I found out on the X1500 is that the volume faders aren't exactly what we are use to.. they are digital, and there is some serious delay if you go to slam the volume up (ie: volume drops, etc)... The EQs were to close together BUT very good at cutting the sound... and the effects unit it pretty sweet... one of the better in-mixer units I have come across... Other than the volume faders delay 'problem' I think this mixer will have people taking a second guess about the extra 400 bux for a DJM 600...

Posted by tu_face on Jul-03-2004 08:35:

Posted by trancintaiwan on Jul-03-2004 09:54:

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-03-2004 10:29:

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Originally posted by trancinchink
i've got an smac pro30. i dont see whats so bad about it. its very sturdy and nothing is loose at all.

your eq knobs don't wobble at all????if u hold the knob with 2 fingers and try to move it..... its solid??????

Posted by trancintaiwan on Jul-03-2004 16:58:

well i honestly only turn my eq's, i don't wobble them. but if i do, they move slightly. won't most knobs anywhere move a tiny bit if u apply enough force to it tho?

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-03-2004 17:05:

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Originally posted by trancinchink
well i honestly only turn my eq's, i don't wobble them. but if i do, they move slightly. won't most knobs anywhere move a tiny bit if u apply enough force to it tho?

u will not find that on a allen or dateq...vestax also seem to be pretty tight...i also didn't like the type of plastic on the eq's on the ecler.....i suppose the mixer is good for the money.....i also will say it sounded nice.....i just wasn't happy with the construction of it...

where in NYC are u?

Posted by trancintaiwan on Jul-03-2004 17:12:

in live rite in soho. u around here as well?

Posted by DannyO on Jul-03-2004 17:15:

Thats crappy to hear about the Eclers, I have never span on the Ecler40 but I have tried it in a shop, I didn't notice any problems with the knobs, but I wasn't applying much force, but I'm sure they have sorted any and all problems with this Nuo5, I'm probably gonna get one, and if so I'll wright a review, or if I go for the Denon, I will have tested out the Nuo at some point and will wright a brief review about anything good or bad I find about it.

Posted by Psiweaver on Jul-03-2004 17:16:

Thats the first negative comment i've heard as well. What would you suggest thats along the lines of the Nou5 but more sturdy and well built. It doesn't necissarly have to have the built in stuff either.

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-03-2004 17:22:

well let me not bash ecler.....i guess its ok if u wanna save some money...but how much is the nou 5 going for about 850 USD??? i'm not sure but if your gonna spend that much i would go with the djm 600 or the a&h 62 both are in same money area....if u have the money buy something a lil more quality.....

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-03-2004 17:27:

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Originally posted by trancinchink
in live rite in soho. u around here as well?

used to be on west 11th and hudson....in queens now

Posted by tu_face on Jul-05-2004 10:43:

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Originally posted by djtrinity
u will not find that on a allen or dateq...vestax also seem to be pretty tight...i also didn't like the type of plastic on the eq's on the ecler.....i suppose the mixer is good for the money.....i also will say it sounded nice.....i just wasn't happy with the construction of it...

you are forming an opinion of an �845 mixer based on experience of a �389 from the same manufacturer. if you pay double the price, of course its going to be a lot more heavy duty, otherwise what do you pay for? yes, it has effects, but that certainly wouldn't add the other �450 odd to the price.

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-05-2004 11:47:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
you are forming an opinion of an �845 mixer based on experience of a �389 from the same manufacturer. if you pay double the price, of course its going to be a lot more heavy duty, otherwise what do you pay for? yes, it has effects, but that certainly wouldn't add the other �450 odd to the price.

have u handled the nuo 5?

Posted by wiregen on Jul-05-2004 13:44:

i just got the denon x1500, first hand expeirence it is a great mixer! -40db cuts and all....its a very clean sounding mixer

Posted by DannyO on Jul-06-2004 04:37:

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Originally posted by wiregen
i just got the denon x1500, first hand expeirence it is a great mixer! -40db cuts and all....its a very clean sounding mixer

Good to hear man, you should write up a little review after you've messed with it, I would (and I'm sure I ain't alone on this) like to hear from another TA what this is like, the good the bad and the ugly, its just a surgestion.

Posted by cryo on Jul-06-2004 05:56:

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Originally posted by Prodigy Child
Good to hear man, you should write up a little review after you've messed with it, I would (and I'm sure I ain't alone on this) like to hear from another TA what this is like, the good the bad and the ugly, its just a surgestion.

yeah i was just reading the specs and i'd like to hear a review after you've had your fun.

Posted by tu_face on Jul-06-2004 10:32:

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Originally posted by djtrinity
have u handled the nuo 5?

no, but i wouldn't form an opinion on it based on a completely different mixer which is half the price.

its like having an opinion on a pmc 37 pro, based on an experience of a pcv-180, completely pointless

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-06-2004 11:08:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
no, but i wouldn't form an opinion on it based on a completely different mixer which is half the price.

its like having an opinion on a pmc 37 pro, based on an experience of a pcv-180, completely pointless

i look at it like this....bmw makes a 750 il and 320...both are made in the bmw quality fashion.....just the lower model has less features and luxuries.

i haven't handled the pcv 18 but i bet its still constructed the same way most vestax are....pretty solid.....just has less to offer i have owned 4 vestax's the pmc 55,46 mk2,27 mk2 and the 175 all are onstucted in the same fashion..

its the same with allen and heath, rane ,etc....same construction just less features etc......thats how i base my judgement on the ecler.....its not much to go on but i would rather see that mixer for myself before i order from some shop online and find out its built like all there other mixers and i paid 400 more dollars for some effects and better xfader

Posted by tu_face on Jul-06-2004 11:28:

quote:
Originally posted by djtrinity
i look at it like this....bmw makes a 750 il and 320...both are made in the bmw quality fashion.....just the lower model has less features and luxuries.

i haven't handled the pcv 18 but i bet its still constructed the same way most vestax are....pretty solid.....just has less to offer i have owned 4 vestax's the pmc 55,46 mk2,27 mk2 and the 175 all are onstucted in the same fashion..

its the same with allen and heath, rane ,etc....same construction just less features etc......thats how i base my judgement on the ecler.....its not much to go on but i would rather see that mixer for myself before i order from some shop online and find out its built like all there other mixers and i paid 400 more dollars for some effects and better xfader

i understand what you are saying, and i agree that befoire buying, using would be preferable. taking on your bmw analogy, i would say that you are comparing an older bmw to one of the newer 5 series. although yes they are both built with quality, but the newer bmw's have very different components in them than a bmw had 5-10 years ago.

what i am trying to say, is that they can't build a new mixer out of the same bits and just stick an effects unit in it, and charge double the price. so my best guess is that they have stuck a lot more heavy-duty components in there (faders, eq knobs, x-faders that will last ages etc) so that clubs are more likely to get it. ecler are taking on the djm600 with this one, so i seriously doubt they will make a shit job of it

Posted by djtrinity on Jul-06-2004 11:31:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i understand what you are saying, and i agree that befoire buying, using would be preferable. taking on your bmw analogy, i would say that you are comparing an older bmw to one of the newer 5 series. although yes they are both built with quality, but the newer bmw's have very different components in them than a bmw had 5-10 years ago.

what i am trying to say, is that they can't build a new mixer out of the same bits and just stick an effects unit in it, and charge double the price. so my best guess is that they have stuck a lot more heavy-duty components in there (faders, eq knobs, x-faders that will last ages etc) so that clubs are more likely to get it. ecler are taking on the djm600 with this one, so i seriously doubt they will make a shit job of it

i hear where your coming from!!!

if anyone uses one please let us know!

Posted by wiregen on Jul-06-2004 19:19:

Ill write a formal review once I get used to this.
I just brought this from a gig I played at.

Its very clean even for a loud system there was no buzzing that I hear.
As far as the effects go, I need to expeirement this at home...I have been pretty scared using the effects live since I just only owned the mixer for a couple days prior.

Also a nice note it's built very strong and is very all around. I can scratch REALLY well on this im surprised.

For 715$ its awesome!

Posted by beats and beeps on Jul-06-2004 21:00:

Im a little curious about these smac pros 30s or 40s. Whats with the slanted faders? I've never touched one, but i sort of think using the faders to mix, might be a little more annoying with slanted faders? Anybody have any experiences with them? Are the really any good for mixing?...They seem to be marketed more twords the scratching market.

Posted by trancintaiwan on Jul-07-2004 03:42:

why would it be any more annoying than faders going straight up? i actually prefer them better because if you naturally put your hand in front of you, you'll notice that your thumb/index finger grip is slightly slanted. fits nicely.

(i have a pro30)

Posted by tu_face on Jul-07-2004 09:24:

i think they are aimed at scratch dj's more, its an easier angle to work fast.

and another thing that fucks me off...

quote:
For 715$ its awesome!

GAAAAAH

why is everything so expensive here..???? Thats �386!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! here they cost �845

i could have afforded �386 a month ago

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