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Yes, the man's death was unwarranted and gruesome and pathetic but blaming other countries and other people won't help.

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Originally posted by torontotrance Yes, the man's death was unwarranted and gruesome and pathetic but blaming other countries and other people won't help.

Ofcourse it will, how else can you get unwaranted revenge and vegeance back on people who didn't do a thing. God, isn't the world neat.

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Originally posted by torontotrance Do yourself a favor and keep your country bashing off the board.

Totally agree with this, there's enough shit on the board as it is. Like we need anymore.


I myself have never been to Canada and know less than a handful of Canadians, but I see no reasons to warrant such negative sentiments towards the country or its people.

The US military treated some prisoners (who may have killed our fathers, brothers and sons in iraq) in a degrading way, we get the world world on our case. I hear people trying to justify it as that we americans are killing people in iraq, but keep in mind that our soldiers are told not to engage an enemy unless they fire at our soldiers first. Someone wants to try and kill our soldiers, take them out and i couldn't care if they are put on a leash and told to bark.

of course, cutting heads off is the sign of a society ready to contribute to the world in a positive way.

about us starting the war, how many countries have u tried liberating? Oh rite, i know your response: it's about the oil. And i guess that means we haven't done anything to Iraq but send nuts and bolts to fix broken oil pipes. Are your soldiers on the front line trying to stop people from blowing up trains simultaneously, setting off car bombs in market places , cutting heads off of people that are trying to rebuild a country?

everyone jumps to say "o america is treating prisoners badly." But now we have this guy with his head off and it's time to ANALYZE it: "who was this man? is he a spy? what was he doing in iraq?"

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Originally posted by Nabistai Why don't you stop talking shit about things you don't know fuck about. Did you know who he was? what he did? what he was doing there? No you don't so stop saying these stupid things. There's a fucking war going out there that YOU started. Yes, YOU So stop your fucking bitching

ohh wow just as ignorant as u claim all americans to be....... first of all Saudi Arabia isnt in a war period... its as if someone got headed in Italy while the War in yugoslavia was going on would u consider italy being in war just because its neighboring country is in war no. Second of all u should judge human beings for who they are not because they are a certain nationality. Obviously u have no clue in current events knowing that this man was in a non war zone and was kidnapped and beheaded because there ransom wasnt met. I really feel sorry that u look so low apon someons life, regardless if its a member of my family or someone i have never met such actions on human beings should anger anyone but obviously it doesnt for certain people. To show the ignorance of your mind i bet if it was one of your fellow country men who was put to death such traggic ways you would be spitting ur mouth a little different. Mayb show some sympathy for human life and dont judge a human just because hes American.

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Originally posted by Kurve Mayb show some sympathy for human life and dont judge a human just because hes American.

good words

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Originally posted by trewqy Exactly..ur reacting like this dude who was beheaded was a relative of yours or something. There are things here that we dont know for sure and to rush into judgements just shows ur immaturity. I wonder how you would react if someone from canada got his head chopped off. I dont think I'd expect any sympathy from you guys.

Like i said regardless family, friend, country men, someone who has no connection with me what so ever ..... such treatment should be looked down apon and like i said THERE IS NO LOGIC IN IT WHAT SO EVER.

Mayb if u took a better look into people u would know that not all americans are the way you prejudge them to be. Im an american and yes i care about the world i care about a person being treated in such a inhuman way regardless of his nationality or ethic such acts just is wrong, why because im am Human and we are much similar then we are different remember that. So just because a few americans pissed u off doesnt mean u have the right to prejudge everyone else to be the same, just makes u not much different then them.

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Originally posted by torontotrance Do yourself a favor and keep your country bashing off the board

I agree those comments are immature and not called for ....but there are many others who bash americans just as much and such comments arnt called for as well. But yet i dont find anyone truely standing up for that unless they are american. Just saying it truely goes both ways.

This sentiment usually results in a flame war, sure we are all mad that a guy was killed for no reason but that's no right to take it out on people from other countries.

hahahhahaha

politics makes me laugh.

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Originally posted by shanehanner I leave for basic training in the U.S. Navy this monday, thanks. Dick.....

i leave aug 18

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Originally posted by shanehanner I am so pissed off about this shit, I saw the nick berg video and it made me sick. I hate these ******s so much I cant stand it. This guy was an innocent man, the only thing was he was an american, thats why they cut his head off. I am just sick.

blah no need to be sick, the so called american shouldnt have been there in the first place if he knew it was dangeruos. yuo only go there if you are dumb, in this case, the american.

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Originally posted by djshan blah no need to be sick, the so called american shouldnt have been there in the first place if he knew it was dangeruos. yuo only go there if you are dumb, in this case, the american.

Here's a comment of intelligence. He got his head cut off because he was dumb for being there in the first place? You're right...

If you got in a car crash, would you blame the tree for being there? Or yourself for getting into the car in the first place?

Or if you cut your finger making dinner, would you blame the knife or the finger?

I don't pretend to know the person that died but his death was uncalled for and statements like these only degrade your morals and beliefs. I think there's been enough bashing for this forum, and I rarely post anymore, but it angers me to see people downplaying a loss of life. Iraqi, American, Canadian, whatever, have some self worth and morn their loss of life.

The militants didn't quite get away with the Paul Johnson killing. Saudi forces killed al-Morqrin, the head of the Saudi al-Qaida terrorist cell yesterday.

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Saudis: Hostage's Slayers Die in Shootout By SALAH NASRAWI, Associated Press Writer RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Saudi TV broadcast pictures Saturday of four bloodied bodies of four suspected militants, including the al-Qaida chief in the kingdom, who were shot to death hours after killing American Paul M. Johnson Jr. Saudi officials said Johnson's beheaded corpse still has not been found, contradicting earlier reports that it was dumped outside the capital, Riyadh. The al-Qaida cell allegedly led by Abdulaziz al-Moqrin fulfilled its threat to kill engineer Paul M. Johnson Jr., beheading him and showing grisly photos on the Internet on Friday. The slaying drew a chorus of condemnation from around the world, with even one of America's staunchest foes, Syria, calling it a "shameful crime." Hours after Johnson's slaying, security forces at a roadblock intercepted al-Moqrin and the other militants in their car, sparking a gunbattle that ended with the four being killed, Adel al-Jubeir, foreign affairs adviser to Crown Prince Abdullah, told reporters at the Saudi Embassy in Washington. He said initial reports from Saudi officials that the militants were traced after a witness saw them dumping Johnson's body were incorrect. "We haven't found (Johnson's) body yet," al-Jubeir said, adding that security agents were searching the northern outskirts of Riyadh. "We think we know the area where it is," he said. The death of al-Moqrin, 31, would be a coup for Saudi Arabia's government, which has been beset by a wave of attacks on Westerners aimed at driving foreign workers from the kingdom and undermining the ruling royal family. James Oberwetter, the U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, welcomed the development but warned it didn't mean the threat of violence has ended. "A great deal was accomplished last evening. We also believe that much remains to be done," Oberwetter told reporters. "The Saudis are doing an excellent job of working on their most wanted list � and working people off that list � but not everyone who is a threat has been removed from the list and maybe there are many more." Al-Jubeir said that with al-Moqrin's death "we have substantialy weakened the organization ... We will continue to pursue them with vigor until we eliminate them from our midst." The televised pictures of the dead militants appeared to be aimed at refuting denials by Islamic militants that he was killed. A posting on an Islamist Web site Saturday said claims of al-Moqrin's death were "aimed at dissuading the holy warriors and crushing their spirits." A picture of one of the dead men showed the face of a young man, clean-shaven except for his mustache and resembling past pictures believed to be of al-Moqrin. Al-Ekhbariya, an all-news Saudi satellite channel, showed a full photograph of the same corpse, covered with blood. A trickle of blood ran from the mouth of another of the militants pictured, and the teeth of a third appeared smashed. A U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity Friday confirmed al-Moqrin's killing, while a Saudi official said forensic tests would confirm the body's identity. Al-Jubeir said security forces who had been scouring the capital for days, using moving roadblocks, found the car carrying al-Moqrin and his colleagues in Riyadh's al-Malaz neighborhood. A gunbattle erupted and lasted for several hours, as "the terrorists tried to shoot their way out," he said. The militants were cornered at a nearby gas station, officials said. The Saudi news network Al-Ekhbariya broadcast footage of the station showing blood on the street and on merchandise inside. One security officer was killed and two wounded, the state Saudi Press Agency reported. Two suspects escaped, according to a Saudi security official who participated in the fight. Twelve suspected militants have been arrested in the sweep of the capital, al-Jubeir said. He said they were "mainly" Saudi citizens. An Interior Ministry identified the four dead as al-Moqrin, Faisal Abdul-Rahman al-Dikheel, Turki bin Fuheid al-Muteiry and Ibrahim bin Abdullah al-Dreiham. Al-Dikheel, also on the kingdom's list of the 26 most-wanted militants, was involved in a number of killings and apparently was featured in video footage of Johnson's slaying, the Saudi Press Agency said. Al-Muteiry was among the militants involved in a May 29 attack in the oil hub of Khobar that killed 22 people, the report said. Al-Dreiham was linked to the Nov. 8 suicide bombing at Riyadh housing compounds that killed 17. The Interior Ministry statement said authorities had confiscated three cars used by al-Moqrin's cell, including one believed to have been used in the June 6 killing of Irish cameraman Simon Cumbers. Also confiscated were forged identity papers, $38,000 and a weapons cache, including three rocket-propelled grenade launchers, hand grenades and automatic rifles, the statement said.

US just struck an Al-Zarqawi cell (the group responsible for the last beheading) in Fallujah as well, killing about 18 in an airstrike. Secondary explosions from stored munitions for IEDs lasted about 20 minutes afterwards.


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Originally posted by Kurve ohh wow just as ignorant as u claim all americans to be....... first of all Saudi Arabia isnt in a war period... its as if someone got headed in Italy while the War in yugoslavia was going on would u consider italy being in war just because its neighboring country is in war no. Second of all u should judge human beings for who they are not because they are a certain nationality. Obviously u have no clue in current events knowing that this man was in a non war zone and was kidnapped and beheaded because there ransom wasnt met. I really feel sorry that u look so low apon someons life, regardless if its a member of my family or someone i have never met such actions on human beings should anger anyone but obviously it doesnt for certain people. To show the ignorance of your mind i bet if it was one of your fellow country men who was put to death such traggic ways you would be spitting ur mouth a little different. Mayb show some sympathy for human life and dont judge a human just because hes American.

I feel sorry "U" look so low "apon" grammar.

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Congratulations...

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Originally posted by Nabistai Congratulations...

Thank-you. Payback's a mother...


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Ian van Dahl - Where Are You Now (Peter Luts Mix)

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Originally posted by smokeape The militants didn't quite get away with the Paul Johnson killing. Saudi forces killed al-Morqrin, the head of the Saudi al-Qaida terrorist cell yesterday. US just struck an Al-Zarqawi cell (the group responsible for the last beheading) in Fallujah as well, killing about 18 in an airstrike. Secondary explosions from stored munitions for IEDs lasted about 20 minutes afterwards. [[[smoke]]]

I'm glad they were killed, crazy terrorist bastards.

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Originally posted by smokeape Thank-you. Payback's a mother... [[[smoke]]] Ian van Dahl - Where Are You Now (Peter Luts Mix)

Don't you think that's what they thougth while chopping that man's head off?

Don't you think that's what they'll be thinking in a couple of weeks?

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Originally posted by torontotrance Do yourself a favor and keep your country bashing off the board. How the hell is Canada, a country of small dicks and small national pride? Do you live here? Obviously you don't, so do yourself a favor, don't bother talking about my country like that. See if you held an opinion because you lived here, then I might actually care what you are saying but I doubt you do. We have tremendous pride in Canada and our dick size (well that's individualistic). BTG was right, if you really want to do something for your country, join the military and go serve somewhere.

I'm pretty sure you've talked your fair share of smack about the US. And you live in Canada.

Don't hold a double-standard.

When people go to war, there's just a small possibility that people will die.



In before the lock?

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Originally posted by QuickStep Here's a comment of intelligence. He got his head cut off because he was dumb for being there in the first place? You're right... If you got in a car crash, would you blame the tree for being there? Or yourself for getting into the car in the first place? Or if you cut your finger making dinner, would you blame the knife or the finger? I don't pretend to know the person that died but his death was uncalled for and statements like these only degrade your morals and beliefs. I think there's been enough bashing for this forum, and I rarely post anymore, but it angers me to see people downplaying a loss of life. Iraqi, American, Canadian, whatever, have some self worth and morn their loss of life.

umm u didnt undersatnd the post that well.. getting into a car accident or getting cut by a knife etc. are totally different from intentionally going to iraq/suadi arabia or wherever if u "already" know its not safe. i know driving is not always safe, and its possible that u could get killed in an accident, but the point is that u should stay away from things that are "unneccessary", which means that it was not important for him to go to suadi arabia.. however driving a car is important, bcuz u ned it to get to your destination. hope that made sense, if not then i suk at english.

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Originally posted by Rodrico I feel sorry "U" look so low "apon" grammar.

Yes English professor!!! Well as always when there isnt a good response to what was stated you can always insults someones grammar.

tons of morons in this thread


fact of the matter:

its wrong. No one deserves to die or even get their head cut off for being in the wrong place. Even if he knew it was dangerous, he was earning money and im sure he missed his family while earning the living he was. ALL U ASSHOES think about this; put urself in his brother's shoes or his wifes situation. Think about what they are feeling at this very moment of time as they reflect on the good times they had...."with his wife as they planned to grow old together"

"or growing up with his siblings"

this thread and some of the people posting in here sicken me.

all i can say.....is this thread has tons of asshoes who are just as guilty as those who commited to the crime

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec tons of morons in this thread fact of the matter: its wrong. No one deserves to die or even get their head cut off for being in the wrong place. Even if he knew it was dangerous, he was earning money and im sure he missed his family while earning the living he was. ALL U ASSHOES think about this; put urself in his brother's shoes or his wifes situation. Think about what they are feeling at this very moment of time as they reflect on the good times they had...."with his wife as they planned to grow old together" "or growing up with his siblings" this thread and some of the people posting in here sicken me. all i can say.....is this thread has tons of asshoes who are just as guilty as those who commited to the crime

umm i thought that i heard he just went there as a tourist, never heard of him workign there. if thats the case, well then wutever i posted was not right, excuseme if i looked like an idiot. i honestly thought he was a tourist who went there to see wuts goign on. also i think those americans or any other foriegners who are working in that region shoudl leave, bcuz its dangeruos.

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