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It is about time he realized that prog sucks ass,Iam glad he is not playing that shit anymore!!

Good for sasha.... the prog phase was done so long ago.

Way better than digweed thats for sure, who always is so boring

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Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC If any of you actually follow Sasha's works you'd know that he hasn't spun progressive house for 11 years. His music is always evolving, which is why he's been around for so long. Most artists and djs are too linear to do what he's done. He said in another interview (or maybe it was part of this article but was cut out) that Involver was his new "experiment". If I'm not mistaken Sasha used Ableton Live (yes the very same program BT uses for his laptop symphony) to do much of the mixing and reworking for Involver. Im not sure what he means by "I�m looking back to �85 instead of �95" (maybe synthpop! ) but I can only imagine that whatever he moves on to will be gold! It's a shame some people are not as open-minded towards music as they think they are. In either case, Sasha has been my fav DJ since I started *really* listening to EDM and no matter what style he chooses next he'll still be my fav. If his future doesn't proove to be successful, it doesn't change what he's done in the past. p.s. quite personally i don't think he'll stray too far from prog house

true wise words of a real EDM listener! i was talking about the same thing the other time with maxstradamus if only there was more open-minded people...

don't get a hard-on yet trance boys, prog isn't going anywhere. he may *say* this, but i agree with Elmo, he's not going to stray too far away from progressive. just listen to Involver, it sounds pretty progressive to me.

why don't you come to guv on july 10 if you guys are so sure? just make sure you bring a pillow

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Originally posted by dartrance Good for sasha.... the prog phase was done so long ago. Way better than digweed thats for sure, who always is so boring

Why is it that strictly trance heads bash prog. How about progressive trance?? Does this put you to sleep as well ?? I wish more people would take their heads out of their asses and broaden their musical tastes. Prog is like every genre....theres good and bad.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Going back to 85? Could we see a return of acid and vocal styles of house in a modern context? WOOOOHOO! It always comes back to house!

That would be really cool! I would love acid to come back!

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Originally posted by The Highroller why don't you come to guv on july 10 if you guys are so sure? just make sure you bring a pillow

Dont forget to bring blankets,ooh and looooooooooooooots if coffee just incase you fell a sleep.

If it werent for the crazy crowd energy i would have needed my pillow for Tiesto.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

dullness at any speed is still dullness.

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Originally posted by TECHno addict Why is it that strictly trance heads bash prog. How about progressive trance?? Does this put you to sleep as well ?? I wish more people would take their heads out of their asses and broaden their musical tastes. Prog is like every genre....theres good and bad.

Being open-mind and versitile is a bliss any genre can put you to sleep lol

Like Max says "Good music is good music"

So well said Jeff

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Originally posted by Jayx1 If it werent for the crazy crowd energy i would have needed my pillow for Tiesto. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ dullness at any speed is still dullness.

I guess u were on some cheap drug that night

Where exactly is this from? Its not on his website...can someone please explain

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Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC anyways there are 3 other threads on the board regarding the exact same article

That doesnt quite say much, could be from the same defunct origin

What is your definition of Prog?

Rumours of progs demise are vastly overrated

I have no idea what these guys are talking about. I was there at Sasha's set last weekend in New York. All I have to say is that you will not be disappointed when he plays in Toronto in July. If you liked his set in Beruit and the S/D Essential Mix set, you will flip. His set in New York was fucking unreal. It was the best sasha set I ever heard him play. The place was crowded all the way to the end and Sasha looked like he was enjoying himself. He set sounded seemless and was a total journey. There was a trancey vibe to the stuff he played but it was deep, dark, and definitely prog.

All you sasha haters can bitch all you like. He played well. It looked like he did play recorded songs that he remixed and tweaked. He used exclusively CD's - no vinyl. He also looked sober. In fact, I never seen him cracked out to the point where he was screwing up - too bad for you haters.

I have high hopes he will rip it in Toronto. Luke Fair was also amazing. He opened beautifully.

Last weekend was insane down here. Deep Dish played the following day and they did not disappoint. This weekend is Paul Van Dyk at Central Park and then an after-party with Paul and Jerry Bonham. It felt like Toronto last weekend

Sasha haters hunh... whoever they are

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Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC If any of you actually follow Sasha's works you'd know that he hasn't spun progressive house for 11 years

Agreed.

Digweed would lay the foundation (Bedrock), and Sasha would provide the party.

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Originally posted by halo20 Digweed would lay the foundation (Bedrock)....

nice one.

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Originally posted by DigitalMP I'll speak for Richard Raiban, since he's probably still weeping in a dark corner, as I've gathered from Karen's smoke signals off the roof of their building, that I can see all the way in Buffalo. Sasha IS progressive house, and he'll continue to pioneer that genre for years to come. Yes, he has been spinning some popular trakcs as of late, but, as the first 3/4 of Involver shows, he's still running the show and taking it in new and exciting directions.

i saw this on tribe a few days ago....

i tried replying yesterday but my pc was acting funny so i decided to play splinter cell...

this is rather shocking but i cant see him giving it up.....i wont believe it until i see it...

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Originally posted by sufee_b That doesnt quite say much, could be from the same defunct origin

http://www.djsasha.com/news_detail.php?nid=0a09c8144

pretty sure it's from that article in DJMAG...can't find the actual article online to tell you if this the exact one, but the description on the site is self explainitory.

a wise old man once said that everyone follows sasha, well with prog now going the way of the dodo, i wonder what the next flavour of the week is going to be. although prog has lasted like 3 strong years. so it definately had a good run.

i hope prog dies a horrible death

I've said it before and I will say it again.
Sasha has been washed up for the last 3 or 4 years. People call it inovative but he is barely holding on. It's all of these die-hards that loved him so much in the past that won't let go to the fact that he is a washed up, junkie, who probably has no idea where he even is in life. I know I'm a little harsh but if you were to go see him live or have went and saw him live in past few years he has stunk the place out, bored people to death, or was the same as any other so-so DJ out there.

I love the Sasha followers that stick by him and won't let go but trust me you will have to some day when it becomes obvious that he has lost his aura in the world of electronic music. Inovaters to me are the James Zabiela's out there who are doing things out of the norm, mixing genres in their sets, scratching and being real party DJ's.

NOW, if Sasha were to go back to his roots when he was a legend, and start playing that dark trance he is known for in the late 90's then maybe he could revive my trust in him and I may think about going to see him when he is in town. Other than that, MEH = Sasha.

Let it go people........

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Originally posted by ShAwZy I love the Sasha followers that stick by him and won't let go but trust me you will have to some day when it becomes obvious that he has lost his aura in the world of electronic music. Inovaters to me are the James Zabiela's out there who are doing things out of the norm, mixing genres in their sets, scratching and being real party DJ's.

Matt, I couldn't disagree with you more. I keep the faith with Sasha because he's always blown me away. Even on his sader days (re: KH 2003) he still embodies a certain energy that I have trouble finding with any other dj. (yes even Tiesto)

Even though his style of tracks has never been my personal favorite, I think his style of mixing is phenomenal. The man puts very very difficult tracks together after doing 4 hours of blow.

I find it ironic how you cite Zabiela as an innovator when it's been well documented that JZ ows his career (or rather birth of) to Sasha. Not only that but you claim JZ to be a "party dj" when he's often controversially put the crowd to sleep from onset. My personal and subjective opinion about JZ is that he all too often concentrates on the art rather than the fun in being the dj. I've seen him over 6 times and only once (opening for digweed) has he kept me interested.

While the very stage presense of Sasha has usually kept me mesmorized. (again even on his bad days)

After the 6 hour stormer Fabric set Sasha spun back in Feb a few of us got together at a house party to discuss the shock and awe we experienced that night. Regardless of your opinion, he is a legend and for that alone he deserves more respect than you have just given him now. End rant.

Sasha played a limited intimate engagement here last night. I heard about it after I had come back from the Skinny Puppy concert - damn!

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=190559

He looks pretty sober to me. I don't know how anyone could spin a decent set cracked out. Sasha and all the A-list dj's are professionals.

Hearing from friends, he did answer some questions I had. He does pre-mix his songs - tweaking and combining elements to form meta-songs. I was wondering how he could layer so many elements off of 2 DVD turntables. The end result was very enjoyable. There was a Dead Can Dance complexity to his sound last weekend. I agree with him, in the end it's only the sound that comes out of the speakers that matter.

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Originally posted by halo20 Matt, I couldn't disagree with you more. I keep the faith with Sasha because he's always blown me away. Even on his sader days (re: KH 2003) he still embodies a certain energy that I have trouble finding with any other dj. (yes even Tiesto) Even though his style of tracks has never been my personal favorite, I think his style of mixing is phenomenal. The man puts very very difficult tracks together after doing 4 hours of blow. I find it ironic how you cite Zabiela as an innovator when it's been well documented that JZ ows his career (or rather birth of) to Sasha. Not only that but you claim JZ to be a "party dj" when he's often controversially put the crowd to sleep from onset. My personal and subjective opinion about JZ is that he all too often concentrates on the art rather than the fun in being the dj. I've seen him over 6 times and only once (opening for digweed) has he kept me interested. While the very stage presense of Sasha has usually kept me mesmorized. (again even on his bad days) After the 6 hour stormer Fabric set Sasha spun back in Feb a few of us got together at a house party to discuss the shock and awe we experienced that night. Regardless of your opinion, he is a legend and for that alone he deserves more respect than you have just given him now. End rant.

I know there are a couple of you that may take offense to my comments on Sasha, call it tough love I guess. As you stated John, he brings a level of excitment or"certain energy " as you put it and I can understand that. You are in a room with arguable one of the best DJ's in the world. That still says nothing about his ability to rock a room anymore. He does deserve respect, I just think people are still giving him a lot more than he deserves at this stage of the game. He could come out with a mediocore track or set and there would be the die-hards that thought it was amazing cause it was "Sasha", correct me if I am wrong???
Mind you John, I know how big of Sasha freak you are and I'm not going to let this drag on, this was my opinion and I know there are some others who think the same way. no hard feeling but I know everyone does not like my "wash up" of a favorite DJ Danny Howells. He can still bring it to the table is the difference.
As for James Z, it was the first name that came to my head, maybe not the best example.

haha hard feelings..as if.

I think you make bang on points, he is usually hyped up beyond belief. Usually by morons like myself.

I still love Sasha's work personally. But Shawzy -- I do agree with you up to a point regarding Sasha being over-hyped. Involver, for example, is hyped to be the 'future' of mixes. While I own it and I love it and can't stop listening to it, the concept is NOT NEW...

yes... all the tracks are remixed/reworked by Sasha...
yes... all the tracks are mixed together and flow SO Smoothly (Thank the studio for that...)

BUT to claim that this idea is fresh is ridiculous and not true. For many years (and many years ago) a bunch of other artists have made their own smooth-flow mix CD with tracks they have produced themselves: How about any Enigma album? Or what about Mike Oldfield albums like "The Songs of Distant Earth"

So while I think you're right in saying that Sasha is over-hyped, well, what other 'legend' in their own right isn't? (ahem does TIESTO ring a bell?). But that still should not detract from their capabilities and their talent. Sasha has become a legend for a reason and yes -- he continues to innovate today.

It all comes down to if we like the style of music or not IMHO... and I personally LOVE what Sasha's done with Involver. I don't think i'll ever be able to dance to it in a club save a select few tracks on the CD, but it's just GREAT music!

BTW.. his choice to use Ableton Live is not new either... I believe Josh Gabriel uses it... as well as any and all beta testers of the software (I mean, the program was partially MADE to be used in a live situation to trigger live samples and loops and to allow on-the-fly effects and mixing and tempo-chaging -- hell, if i had a laptop, i'd be using it in my future live-sets.)

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