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Thanx to all the TAs for understanding.

And Halo20 (errr... Jon) you should get all your facts straight and know what's going on before you make an ass of yourself.

Honestly at this point no hard feelings.

Cheers people!

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin (errr... Jon)

I call him Jon Jon...

Sorry for the late jump in guys, working @ O'Grady's during pride week was quite the challenge. (but being beside the beer garden spoiled me with the best dj's in the city.. but I missed Sarah's set @ the docks )

As one of our old skool TAs, Jon was a little befuddled with why PartyHarlequin was posting so much about BOA. Since Jon isn't here he isn't privy to knowing the staff of all the clubs like those of us who are deeply involved in the scene here, and I bet many ppl locally were unaware as well.

Hell, I see Noah out every weekend and didn't know he was on TA as PartyHarlequinn until about 2 weeks ago, the joy of matching screen-nicks with the faces we know and love when out and about. (Sarah, remember that lurker who came up to us @ BOA after Fukhouse? *chuckle* he even introduced himself as a lurker)

Perhaps the new event forum and sig rules are a contributing factor to those of us who promote being kept somewhat handcuffed right now as to identifying and spreading the word out that we work for clubs. Noah certainly hasn't kept it a secret, but the fact that everything is spread out right now, and the fact that you can't mention your own email addy/guestlists in your sig should anyone want to get ahold of you is bloody ridiculous, and I'm leaving my edited sig in as a protest.

I'm sure people take everthing that I say with a grain of salt knowing that I am working with Linda M right now over @ System, as they do when anyone who works in the industry posts something. I personally have a serious distaste for the politics involved as I like the residents, staff, crowds, and spaces of quite a few competing clubs in this city, and am fortunate enough to count many of them as friends.

I am going to continue enjoying the best this city has to offer, where-ever that may be, politics be damned.... we are bloody spoiled in this city, and I'm loving it

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin Honestly, I was a little put off by Halo20 PMing me out of nowhere without an explanation. It wasn't like "hey I do work for so and so... are you a promoter for Boa etc... Do I know you, do you know so and so...". I could tell he had a non positive motive behind the questioning as it was so blunt and without purpose or explanation (combined with what I've seen him post on here already). So I was A a bit suspicious of the whole thing and B it was a rather rude message, no hellos/goodbyes/yourstruly/cheers/a name of some sorts. Just an abrupt question from someone I'd never met/spoken to before.

Now you have to kiss and make up, Jon.

Rude message from Jon. impossible.

i think he thought you would see the thread first and then check your PMs.

I sent the PM like 4 days prior to the thread, he wrote back "no, I just really love the place!!". Which I thought was fucking absurd. (was my sarcastic meter broken, I have no clue)

The rest is history, the fact that I should apologize is equally absurd. "No hard feelings". What grounds do you have on being upset with me? You do work for Boa, and I've never ever ever seen that posted on this board. End of story.

Re: Re: Does PartyHarlequin work for Boa?

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Originally posted by Floorwhore Im pretty sure he doesnt.

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin This isn't some big secret

Apparently it is. And that is what I wanted to clarify.

The fact that Jeff is currently living in Toronto, is a huge Boa supporter, and had no clue Party Harlequin was a promoter speaks loudly enough from my point of view.

Hey now don't misquote me. I never said "no" only "I just love the place" which you could put a no or yes before and it still makes perfectly good sense. I wouldn't lie about it, I also don't like being interrogated by people I don't know. Being polite goes a long way!

What's worse though is that your comments continue to be rude and sarcastic. Perhaps you should learn to watch and not jump to conclusions. Do you go up to everyone you meet and introduce yourself as Halo20? I sure hope not, most people would think you're psycho.

What I'd like to know though is, what the hell point are you trying to make? I was preaching the graces of Boa long before they asked me to work for them, and I'd continue to do so even if we parted ways (businesswise).

Get over yourself and stop trying to rile everyone up into some grand inquisition. You aren't going to sway everyone's opinion about me by continuing on this tirade! The reality is Boa is a large operation and I don't even know everyone working there (I meet new one's every week).

If you want to come out to the club please do so, if you don't that's your loss. If you've got a problem with me, tell ME! Don't slanderize me on a public forum, it's just childish.

Ok, so another question. Are you clarifying this argument with me on behalf of Boa? Or do they just pay you to bad mouth other clubs?

Seriously dude, I don't want to keep arguing, you just aren't getting an apology for what I thought was just notification to the readers of this board.

Am I the only one who actually gives a shit? Is this even allowed?

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin If you've got a problem with me, tell ME! Don't slanderize me on a public forum, it's just childish.

Let's please clarify. I don't have a problem with you AT ALL! I have a problem with you posting on a msg board under the guise of "regular consumer".

I have never seen you make it public that you are such a promoter for BOA until this thread. If you can dig up such evidence, I'd be glad to shut my face.

WTF does Boa being a big operation have to do w/ your defense? They are a business, they pay employees, wow. You are the winner afterall.

I'm really starting to wonder if you pay any attention to what is said by anyone else. The point about Boa being a big operation is that you don't always know who works there. As Crazedcanuck said, he's known me for a while and only made the connection recently.

Why haven't you figured it out yet? No one really cares, because no one disagrees.

Cheers mate!

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Originally posted by jon jon I have never seen you make it public that you are such a promoter for BOA until this thread. If you can dig up such evidence, I'd be glad to shut my face.

I just feel like repeating it.

Cheers.

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Originally posted by Floorwhore Does d!abolic work for Trojan??

Holly shit!!! i fell of my chair laughing at this one

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess Now you have to kiss and make up, Jon. Rude message from Jon. impossible.

Jon Rude? never I agree here, he's an awsome dude and
the craziest dancer

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Originally posted by halo20 The fact that Jeff is currently living in Toronto, is a huge Boa supporter, and had no clue Party Harlequin was a promoter speaks loudly enough from my point of view.

You're right Jon, i had no clue. As far as i knew he was just doing what i was doing. There was no announcement of sorts, but to me thats not really something that needs to be done. I do see both of your points, and youre both right in a way. What im thinking (and im speaking for myself), maybe Noah hasnt been promoting right from the get go and just didnt know if making an announcement was something the guys at Boa wanted. I think Rony & Carey (Boa owners/promoters) are doing a great job in getting the word out, and dont really need another "official promoter" posting for them on the boards. I consider myself a Boa promoter, but not by contract. Ive met the boys from Boa, chilled with Sean Miller after every set of his, and really i just feel these guys need maximum exposure. I know they dont NEED me to do what i do, but i feel that anyone i bring to the club that normally wouldnt go, is the least i can do to a club that i feel has greatly improved our scene.

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Originally posted by halo20 it is one part malicious pretending to a punter in a public msgboard when really you're 1/2 part promoter.

I went back to the start of the thread to quote this as I too feel this is a sneaky way of promoting (if you do officially promote for the club).
I mean why pretend you are just someone on the msg baord who is interest in the music is second to promoting your club in an underlining way?

From yesterdays System Thread...

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Originally posted by PartyHarlequin No door between the bathrooms and the DJ booth is sorta gross also...

Jeff...they pay him to post there opinion looking like his own. How can you agree with this?

EDIT: Wouldn't it be better if promoters used this board for guestlists, and participation, feedback, etc. (Jon & Emery do this beautifully) Rather than cutroat tactics like slaggin other clubs? Ahh, the politics of dance

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Originally posted by Skipper However if it becomes apparent that the person DOES work for the club, his or her actions then speak for the club itself.

Oh really? So if you work at McDonald's and talk about food you are speaking for McDonald's itself?

I see...

EVERYONE WITH JOBS AT COMPANIES... STOP ALL COMMENTING NOW OR RISK YOUR JOBS!


Seriously.... sometimes you need to think things through.

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Originally posted by Floorwhore I consider myself a Boa promoter, but not by contract.

If you are getting paid though, I think it's reasonable to announce that you are now working for the club.

Or, at the very least, be straightforward when someone asks.

Otherwise, when it comes out eventually that you (not you specifically Jeff) work for the club, it then looks bad on the club b/c the promoter seems shady for being evasive. Make sense?

But we're all clear now anyways, so let's just be quiet and go to Boa.

I dont agree. Everyone has a right to maintain their anonymity. Do you announce the company you work for? Of course not.

Its up to the person to decide if they wish to reveal their identity by revealing their place of work.

However... the one exception is if you are a promoter and it is your job to be public about where you work. Then yes in this ONE exception id agree with you. But for anyone else including DJs, your assesment is otherwise wrong.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Oh really? So if you work at McDonald's and talk about food you are speaking for McDonald's itself? I see... EVERYONE WITH JOBS AT COMPANIES... STOP ALL COMMENTING NOW OR RISK YOUR JOBS! Seriously.... sometimes you need to think things through.

You can't equate an employee of McDonalds with a club promoter.

1. McDonalds is an international corporation with thousands of employees - the actions of one employee make a neglible difference on the reputation of the company. A club is a small business, in one community - one person being an idiot makes a much bigger difference, especially when that person is communicating on behalf of the club.

2. The promoter is PAID to make the club look good, so it pays off to be upfront and professional when interacting with potential customers, whether it be online or in person.

You seem to know a lot about politics, but somehow, know f-all about public relations and reputation management.

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Originally posted by crazedcanuck Perhaps the new event forum and sig rules are a contributing factor to those of us who promote being kept somewhat handcuffed right now as to identifying and spreading the word out that we work for clubs. Noah certainly hasn't kept it a secret, but the fact that everything is spread out right now, and the fact that you can't mention your own email addy/guestlists in your sig should anyone want to get ahold of you is bloody ridiculous, and I'm leaving my edited sig in as a protest.

Bloody ridiculous? Perhaps you don't run a forum where you have people sign up solely for the purpose of promoting their own self interests and as such put up irrelevant posts aiming to showcase their events and putting their signature in the forefront ... as a means to get people on their guestlist so that they can be compensated monetarily? Hmm? Look at Tribe - they don't even allow signatures, period.

You can mention your email in your signature, however, you cannot mention anything guestlist related - there is a WHOLE FORUM and infrastructure customly programmed specifically for that reason - sigs are meant to be a part of personal expression, not a promoters soapbox to reach the masses - if you want a banner those are available.

If people want to get a hold of you they can PM you or Email you, both of which are options configurable via your profile.

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Why don't you just put up an event in the event forum and put a link to the event in your signature?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I dont agree. Everyone has a right to maintain their anonymity. Do you announce the company you work for? Of course not. Its up to the person to decide if they wish to reveal their identity by revealing their place of work. However... the one exception is if you are a promoter and it is your job to be public about where you work. Then yes in this ONE exception id agree with you. But for anyone else including DJs, your assesment is otherwise wrong.

OK, well he is a promoter.

Point made.

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Originally posted by Skipper You can't equate an employee of McDonalds with a club promoter. 1. McDonalds is an international corporation with thousands of employees - the actions of one employee make a neglible difference on the reputation of the company. A club is a small business, in one community - one person being an idiot makes a much bigger difference, especially when that person is communicating on behalf of the club. 2. The promoter is PAID to make the club look good, so it pays off to be upfront and professional when interacting with potential customers, whether it be online or in person. You seem to know a lot about politics, but somehow, know f-all about public relations and reputation management.

Again, ONLY if the person's job is that of a promoter do i agree with you. It's their job to make the club's image. Otherwise i disagree. I make many statements that both concur and disagree with the management of my job. That is my right as a private citizen to do so.

WHOA!! did we finally agree on something???

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Again, ONLY if the person's job is that of a promoter do i agree with you. It's their job to make the club's image. Otherwise i disagree. I make many statements that both concur and disagree with the management of my job. That is my right as a private citizen to do so.

In some cases you wouldn't want to discuss your place of work online - however, (for example only) it makes sense if you are working for the conservative party to make your bias known when you spend so much time talking about it.

I'm all about being upfront, if you hadn't noticed. Vive le communication.

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