TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Canada - Toronto & Southern Ont.
-- Grown men fighting...
Pages (3): « 1 [2] 3 »

quote:

Originally posted by d!abolic Before RJ realizes that, i think he needs to go into a few of those meetings he could walk out of $100,000 richer or poorer just because he said one sentence too few or one too many.

(RJ shakes his head)...

Ok. Whatever you say doode. Add two 0's.

quote:

Originally posted by Vivid Boy nobody said fighting was a way to resolve things. But in some cases with certain people and in certain situations ur left with nothing but ur fists because all logic all understanding has been tossed out the window by the othewr man in a rage. Orsometimes ur attacked and do u think saying "hey stand their im calling my lawyer!" is going to work? no way in hell. fighting is not the way to solve all disputes but sometimes its the only way. And ps business and fighting go hand in hand, why do you think wars start?

Personally, if you're in those situations, get the f#@k out of Dodge!
Why would someone put themselves in that situation to begin with?
A bit of an extreme example.
i.e. you won't catch lawyers (or anyone else with 1/2 a brain) hanging out at Jane&Finch or the bottom of Sherborne on a Friday night.
Unless of course you like that type of lifestyle, in which case, I'm sorry to hear that.

quote:

not only that but i dont think you've ever worked next to CEO's and company owners while theyre conucting million dollar deals..itys not all rosey posey sipping on cups of teas..theres tons of verbal arguments name calling and they do act very childish...man they bitch eachother out making threats and all..remember with business ur scrambling to get ur cut of the pie...u dont want to hear or see the things that happen in business..they eat you alive..its the way human nature is.. the strong survive

While that may be true in some instances, it's also reflective of the character of the person jumping up and down.
While that person may have success from screaming on the phone, that success will probably only last as long as that person is alive...

quote:

having a criminal conviction doesnt do much trust me. Especially one in assault. Most millinaires have lots of convictions. mo money mo problems.

Mo responsibility you mean. It's called responsibility.

quote:

most millionaires are uneducated as well. you know why? most uneducated people with convictions have the balls to make risky decisions most educated people wouldnt touch with an 8 foot pole cause they were told/taught not too..

True, but then I haven't heard anything to the contrary on this line of thought...
Who we fighting here?

sometimes fight is the only way to solve some problems

if somebody beat up my mother, father or my baby sister i wouldnt go to cops, or press charges or issue a public notice (what is that :"hear, hear, that guy beat up my mom, just so you know, he is not good person", no pun intended) i would find that person and crack his skull open and then they can convict me and i would be paying the rest of my life working nothing jobs, struggling to get by, and if somebody would ever try to hurt my family again, i would do it again without thinking cause family is everything.

rabbitjoker i understand what are you trying to say but world doesnt work that way, everybody have to stand up for themselves cause if one goes around asking for help others will see one weak, and humans tend to exploit weakness so that one is heading for whole shitload of trouble in the future.

next time when you see 2 people fight, just walk away, maybe there is a good reason for them to fight and you trying to make things better can make situation just worse (for you).

no offense to anybody.

quote:

Yes, that is my photo. Maybe you need to re-look at the muscles under my superman costume...

quote:

Is that you on the pic? If so, you really shouldn't be talking. I work out 6 days a week like clockwork.

while on the subject i can break brick with my head

p.s. dont mind my spelling and grammar errors

quote:

Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty sometimes fight is the only way to solve some problems if somebody beat up my mother, father or my baby sister i wouldnt go to cops, or press charges or issue a public notice (what is that :"hear, hear, that guy beat up my mom, just so you know, he is not good person", no pun intended) i would find that person and crack his skull open and then they can convict me and i would be paying the rest of my life working nothing jobs, struggling to get by, and if somebody would ever try to hurt my family again, i would do it again without thinking cause family is everything. rabbitjoker i understand what are you trying to say but world doesnt work that way, everybody have to stand up for themselves cause if one goes around asking for help others will see one weak, and humans tend to exploit weakness so that one is heading for whole shitload of trouble in the future. next time when you see 2 people fight, just walk away, maybe there is a good reason for them to fight and you trying to make things better can make situation just worse (for you). no offense to anybody. while on the subject i can break brick with my head p.s. dont mind my spelling and grammar errors

exactly..if anyone ever touched someone in my family legs would be broken and i could care less abt charges if their were any. my family is everything and therefore i would put everything on the line for them

quote:

Originally posted by Vivid Boy well they dont run me..i dont do any business with major companies cept for bell and rogers and a few of the obivous companies where u have no choice..but thats only cause they basically own the market and im forced to do business with them.. other then that from food to tools to pimple cream i go small business..but that could be just me and they way i was raised..but spend more money in small business then i do with large corporations... and most of canada is like that other then toronto

You can't spend a penny in Canada without some of it going to a large corporation. The keyboard your hand is laying on was made by a corporation. The monitor you're staring at. The half-finished banana laying beside it. The desk it sits on and the cable that runs from it. The power socket it runs to and the electricity it uses. The drywall in the wall the socket is in, the paint on it, your room, your house, your cars, your clothes. Everything you eat and everything you drink. The shoes you walk in and the pavement you walk on. You get the point

quote:

Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty i would do it again without thinking cause family is everything.

Family is everything - and I can do more supporting them in ways other than beating on others (and paying the price as a result {rather than them having to support me because I'm a felon}).

quote:

Originally posted by d!abolic You can't spend a penny in Canada without some of it going to a large corporation. The keyboard your hand is laying on was made by a corporation. The monitor you're staring at. The half-finished banana laying beside it. The desk it sits on and the cable that runs from it. The power socket it runs to and the electricity it uses. The drywall in the wall the socket is in, the paint on it, your room, your house, your cars, your clothes. Everything you eat and everything you drink. The shoes you walk in and the pavement you walk on. You get the point

That or you could have told him that he'd be butt-nikid, sitting under the stars...

quote:

Originally posted by Fir3start3r That or you could have told him that he'd be butt-nikid, sitting under the stars...

shoes i buy twice a year..clothing i buy once a year my computer i purchased once my car i purchased once.. my food from the farmers market i pay for every day...the zit cream i buy every 2 weeks..the tools i buy every month..my real daily weekly and monthly expenses all go to small business..yes ive contributed to big business but my real expenses like food etc go to small business





RJ court dates and laying charges are great after the situation has happened...but what do u do during the situation?

quote:

Originally posted by Vivid Boy RJ court dates and laying charges are great after the situation has happened...but what do u do during the situation?

What the law allows:

1) Get the hell away, avoid further problems.

2) The law allows someone to defend themselves - as long as that they use no more force than within reason to end the assult from continuing.

quote:

Family is everything - and I can do more supporting them in ways other than beating on others (and paying the price as a result {rather than them having to support me because I'm a felon}).

you dont understand.

i agree with that, i worked shitiest jobs to help out my parents, i try my best to stay out of trouble but there is a line for everything, and if that line is crossed man has no choice but to act.

one of those lines would be hurting my parents or my sister.

do you understand now?

quote:

Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty do you understand now?

I understand that violence is not an acceptable option. Further, I can agree to disagree with you on this point.

im really dissapointed to see that some of you guys actually support violence and taking the law into your own hands.
you remind me of some of those americans that are pro gun ownership and say they will never call the cops instead they will shoot the criminal.
i think what rabbitjoker did today was something that most of us should do and it's setting a good example to the youth of the nation.

i wouldnt tell a small boy that violence is the way to solve problems, then you end up with the mentality of idiots like the columbine offenders.

i totally understand what you mean about attacking someone that has offended a familly member, but that should be the last resort as long as there are other options available.

rabbitjoker respect, that was an exemplary thing you did.

How can you ever truely know yourself, if you've never been in a fight?

quote:

Do you have any idea what having a criminal conviction does to someone? For me - having someone paying the rest of their life working nothing jobs, struggling to get by is much more of a penance that me breaking his neck. Physical wounds heal reasonably quickly - a life of hell, paying for your crime is much, much worse.

I feel sorry for your mother RJ.

Some of the greatest and most influential people have gone to jail for some part of their life, and it didnt ruin them.

Fighting is not always the end of all things to happen, it is not degrading any moral or social fabric that we, as intellectual animals, are holding on to. A good ol' fashion fist fight is not gonna ruin your life, especially if its to defend your mother from some assailant.

hey i do not support violence, hell if anyone is against it it's me.
i have seen 2 wars, i have lost everything, my home, my friends, my childhood and all that i have left is my family and if somebody ever hurt them there would be no first or second or third option for me.

that's what im trying to say guys, fuck i wish that there was no violence in this world but it aint like that.

quote:

Originally posted by Rodrico How can you ever truly know yourself, if you've never been in a fight?

When I was younger and less experienced I used to fight whenever one presented itself. I guess growing older, wiser and learning about the world has taught me that there are better ways to solve problems.

quote:

Originally posted by Rodrico Some of the greatest and most influential people have gone to jail for some part of their life, and it didn�t ruin them.

Some prefer influence by violence/intimidation; some prefer influence by honor/good deeds.

quote:

Originally posted by Rodrico especially if its to defend your mother from some assailant.

I wouldn't stand by and watch my mother be assaulted - don't be unreasonable.

quote:

Originally posted by rabbitjoker When I was younger and less experienced I used to fight whenever one presented itself. I guess growing older, wiser and learning about the world has taught me that there are better ways to solve problems.

Translation: I am getting to old to fight and I am going soft in my old age. :P

quote:

Some prefer influence by violence/intimidation; some prefer influence by honor/good deeds.

I would gladly go to jail for an honorable/good deed, there is no shame in being honorable and good. Like I said, jail isn't the end of ones life, regardless of how your take is on it.

quote:

I wouldn't stand by and watch my mother be assaulted - don't be unreasonable.

Well, from what I was reading, it seemed like you may of. In my books, if you aint gonna fight for your mother, you are branded a bonified "PUSSY" for life.

quote:

Originally posted by Rodrico you are branded a bonified "PUSSY" for life.

OK USA.

I know you are! But what am I?

You haven't gotten anywhere, you all just keep restating the bloody point. Destruction is rarely positive unless planned. That's all there is to it. Think about it!

Speaking of fighting...*cough*

Come on guys, you're giving RJ an extreme situation to which everyone will know the answer to, to justify your arguement; low blow...

All RJ is saying is that given the choice of whether to fight or not; he'd choose not to.
Do that make him a pussy? No.
Takes a bigger man to walk away IMHO.

Look at it this way, what's the first thing you learn when taking any martial art?
If you can, walk away...

quote:

Originally posted by d!abolic The world doesn't revolve around you - just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there. Is that you on the pic? If so, you really shouldn't be talking. I work out 6 days a week like clockwork. So if someone beats up your mother, you'll issue a public notice? I've heard enough.

either this is some stupid post to prove a point and get RJ angry or you are just an asshole.

FIGHT CLUB!!!!!!

no seriously, fighting violence with violence is not the answer cos the ping-pong game will continue as can be seen from a larger scale i.e. Balkan War, Mid-East War ... nothing but a constant and continuous tit for tat for decades and centuries!

RJ - your decision was the right one and a noble one!

i have done the same in the past, - acting intuitively by stepping in without thinking of putting my own health and safety at risk, and when bystanders were just watching!

i've even been in a situation myself where i was assaulted in public and NOONE did ANYTHING but build a cirlce around us and WATCH!

You are a SUPERHERO!

Let's break this vicious cycle of lunatic and unacceptable behaviour! Since we are an 'intelligent' species - as someone mentioned earlier in this thread - then we can change that! Just because something's been done since the dawn of humanity, it doesn't mean it's right!

If you need to let off steam, go to the gym ... if that still doesn't still your hunger for aggressiveness - punch yourself in the face!

There are other ways of solving arguments and disagreement - for those of you who disagree, use the tool of communication and appealing to an understanding/ compromise on both sides!

Last concluding thought: ask yourself honestly: do you really think that a problem can be resolved by showing who's the 'stronger' one through a fist match?

quote:

Originally posted by disko-kandi - punch yourself in the face!

OMG!!! BHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

I'm seriously LMAO over here!!!

quote:

Translation: I am getting to old to fight and I am going soft in my old age. :P

I'm going to say you are joking (right?) because otherwise you plainly display your dim-wittedness (too many punches to the brain perhaps?)

I'm TOTALLY with RJ on this one. I grew up in Northern Ontario where all we did was drink beer, play hockey and fight.....I've been in a few good ones myself. I think everyone here can agree that in certain extreme situations, one may have no choice or find that they've lost control of their temper but the point RJ is making is that it should always be one's personal goal, as they mature and grow, to work on channelling and controlling that energy for more positive means of resolution and vastly minimizing the times when violence arises.

An interesting side issue also involved is the lack of RESPECT and HONOUR....one can no longer expect fair fights these days. When I grew up it was straight up, one on one, no weapons, no jump-ins, and the combatants had respect for eachother even if they hated each other. I even remember fights where, when the one person was clearly losing, that person was helped up and dusted off by the winner, the conflict addressed and often settled with no further annomosity or desire to "kill" eachother. Today, sadly the rules have changed by cowards with weapons or gangs who claim toughness out of dishonourable means. Now people get shot becuase someone "dissed" someone else? And we say we are evolving? HA!!!

FF

Yes I was joking for those who are as well a bit dim-witted. Sorry, next time I will write beside my little :P in very large letters, SARCASM!

I have no idea what that means RJ, OK USA? are you referring me to being a bully like the USA because I choose to defend my mother from being attacked. As to everyone else, I am not saying that every situation needs to be remedied with a roundhouse kick to the chops. But if my mother was being attacked, I would not hesitate to hit the person who was attacking her, even if it was my father. Same with the woman who I love, I dont let people physically abuse them, especially men who have more strength then them. I aint gonna beat them to a bloody pulp, but I am gonna put them in check. No questions.

I am not calling RJ a pussy, I said if your not gonna defend your mother, you are a pussy, plain and simple. I dont care for excuses, I will call it to your face, straight up. *SARCASM* What does it matter anyways, you wont fight me anyways. HAR HAR! :P *SARCASM*

So in further conclusion, please read my above statements and re check your education level before responding to me, if you failed to read a grade 2 english level, go set yourself on fire in a portapotty and die with the rest of the turds.

Actually PartyHarlequin, I was expecting the response, "If you are what you eat? then paint me pink and call me pussy."

quote:

So in further conclusion, please read my above statements and re check your education level before responding to me, if you failed to read a grade 2 english level, go set yourself on fire in a portapotty and die with the rest of the turds.

Truly the words of an educated man

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.