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Anyone who watches B.E.T. and thinks that's how black people are, are dumb.

Anyone who watches Telemundo and thinks that's how spanish people are, are dumb.

Anyone who watches MTV & thinks that's how white people are (even though the majority of MTV is bicultural now unlike in the eighties), are dumb.

Anyone who watches a Bruce Lee movie and thinks that's how asian people are, are dumb.

Fact is, yes there are people like this. And even though I think the way media portray's things may not always be right, when people start believing that what they see on TV is the way people are, then there is seriously something wrong with them. People have to remember that TV was & is done for entertainment, not to depict an entire race of people.

JaY

Well, I gotta give props to everyone for keeping all their post mature and giving their opinion so we all can learn everyone elses thoughts on this. It is always good to hear differeing opinions.

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Originally posted by JayD Anyone who watches B.E.T. and thinks that's how black people are, are dumb. Anyone who watches Telemundo and thinks that's how spanish people are, are dumb. Anyone who watches MTV & thinks that's how white people are (even though the majority of MTV is bicultural now unlike in the eighties), are dumb. Anyone who watches a Bruce Lee movie and thinks that's how asian people are, are dumb. Fact is, yes there are people like this. And even though I think the way media portray's things may not always be right, when people start believing that what they see on TV is the way people are, then there is seriously something wrong with them. People have to remember that TV was & is done for entertainment, not to depict an entire race of people. JaY

upin this thread...jayd tells it like it truly is...listen to him people

Its not about race. Its about money. Black ann whites and I am sure every race likes money. The channel is prob 10% cares about black people because all the stuff shown and 90% money. I seen some infomecial with some white d00d selling crap late a night once on that channel.

http://www.gibbsmagazine.com/BET%20SOLD.htm

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Viacom, in announcing the reason for this buyout, said that the African American TV market is growing faster than the general market; their ad-directed market is also growing faster than the general market. So they want to get in on this growing market."

This channel has a greater importance than race

I just watched this movie called "everyday people" and it shows black people like talking to each other to better themselves due to the young Afrcian america's. They were throwing out the N word like it meant nothing to them. I say no one should say the N word because it just bad news from the beginning of the word. Plus it was a MOVIE I watched. Whooaaa that damn media got me again felling sorry for every race or emotional but when I am working I deal with everyday right in front of my face people. I am nice if you knew me so you(anyone) treats me nice then i do the same. You treat me poor you get poor no matter what race. TV is meant to make money and well throw in some culture also to make that extra Dollar

BET is essentially WET, or white entertainment television

white people who DO (not every white person obviously) watch BET are being entertained by the thug mentality and gangster rap bling bling stereotypes of black people that help BET cash in on the dough

WET?
TET?
TBT?
TBS.

Well, this is what happens when all the multiculturalists run around pretending that race = culture.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Well, this is what happens when all the multiculturalists run around pretending that race = culture.

'Oh Snap', in accordance to the parliance of our times.

'Tis true, but you all have to remember, societal problems run deep - and it IS TELEVISION we are discussing. Of course it's stupid. That's its job|

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Originally posted by Derosas I like B.E.T. But I'm Latino. Spanish channels make us look like loud dramatic partiers with hot big-breasted woman, unfortunatly it's not a realastic depitction

Oh hell yeah, the chicks on Spanish tv are hot. It's like watching soft porn.

I don't really like BET primarily because I don't like black comdedians (except dave chappelle). The routine generally consists of:

1. A joke about how white and black people are different, mainly because white people are boring and soul-less.
2. A joke about the condition of black culture, which no white man could ever say for fear of his life.
3. Stereotying of more cultures, and then contrasting it with black culture.
4. A joke having to do with crime.
5. Yelling, mixed with unintelligable babble.

And so on and so forth. They pretty much just propagate all of the negative black stereotypes without actually ever being funny.

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Originally posted by nic01445 1. A joke about how white and black people are different, mainly because white people are boring and soul-less. 2. A joke about the condition of black culture, which no white man could ever say for fear of his life. 3. Stereotying of more cultures, and then contrasting it with black culture. 4. A joke having to do with crime. 5. Yelling, mixed with unintelligable babble.

derr...your list is exactly what dave chappelle does in his routines too along with his show...i mean come on every single one of his shows on comedy central ALWAYS deals with stereotypes that you claim "other" black comedians do like the racial draft for example...dave chappelle is no better than any other black comedian IMO except he just happens to have his own show

the thug culture has become widespread, its not just blacks. Actually its sort of rare to see a black person in vancouver, i guess its just how it is. i have no problem with the real hiphop junkies in van, and i know a quite a few, but its the people who dont act themselfs, the fakes who act thuggish, and try to rep shit and talk about hard life, when some that ive met live in mansions on the far end of the westside...pathetic

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Originally posted by nic01445 I don't really like BET primarily because I don't like black comdedians (except dave chappelle). The routine generally consists of: 1. A joke about how white and black people are different, mainly because white people are boring and soul-less. 2. A joke about the condition of black culture, which no white man could ever say for fear of his life. 3. Stereotying of more cultures, and then contrasting it with black culture. 4. A joke having to do with crime. 5. Yelling, mixed with unintelligable babble.

You forgot about the joke about how black ppl have big units.

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Originally posted by Emil Oh hell yeah, the chicks on Spanish tv are hot. It's like watching soft porn.

When I'm flipping through the channels I can't help lingering at the Spanish network, hey I'm just trying to learn how to salsa. So what if I'm getting a chubby at the same time.

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Originally posted by JayD Anyone who watches B.E.T. and thinks that's how black people are, are dumb. Anyone who watches Telemundo and thinks that's how spanish people are, are dumb. Anyone who watches MTV & thinks that's how white people are (even though the majority of MTV is bicultural now unlike in the eighties), are dumb. Anyone who watches a Bruce Lee movie and thinks that's how asian people are, are dumb. Fact is, yes there are people like this. And even though I think the way media portray's things may not always be right, when people start believing that what they see on TV is the way people are, then there is seriously something wrong with them. People have to remember that TV was & is done for entertainment, not to depict an entire race of people. JaY

Best post so far in this thread.

In some slight response to Essentials post:

If blacks were so worried and wanted to have their own "first" class television show to prove they are making progress in America...

I would say they failed in their purpose. The smart thing to do would be to fight for normal roles. Like the African American presidential candidate in the first season of 24. I loved that guy. Really strong character. That kind of action should be lobbied. Place blacks in strong leadership roles without any of the usual bullshit.

so u guys really arent thugz ??

where does most of american english slang come from, huh!?

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Originally posted by Orbax The smart thing to do would be to fight for normal roles. Like the African American presidential candidate in the first season of 24. I loved that guy. Really strong character. That kind of action should be lobbied. Place blacks in strong leadership roles without any of the usual bullshit.

I agree that the most refreshing thing about the character in 24 was that his colour was pretty much a complete non-issue (other than a brief theory that this could have been a motive for the assasination attempts). I've only seen season 1 though so things may have changed, I hope not.

It's going to be a loooooooong time before America accepts a black presidential candidate, and when this does happen he/she wont be "the president", they'll be "the black president". Race is a mssive issue over there from what I can tell.

Yeah, although I have to admit the first black president would be a badass because he knows he really just taking one for the team and opening the door for others to step though. However, someone with that strong of character would hopefully be able to do a LOT with their powers.

Man im kinda glad i posted this, im really liking the replies. The weird thing is, i go say this to one of my friends, and they're like WTF? I tell people I know this and they look at me funny. Yet i tell it to people who've faces i've never seen and they understand me completely.

As for the black president thing, i agree with you on that one. There should be a black or whatever color president without the emphasis on the color. Like Morgan Freeman (sp?) in Deep Impact. I don't remember the movie that well (it wasn't that good) but they didnt refer to his race once. Also, i've never seen a latino\hispanic nor an asian guy ever even attempt a presidency in the movies and what about women?

For the Dave Chappelle thing. He's not your normal black comedian because although he does use stereotypes to make his comedy, he doesn't play within the stereotypes. He overexaggerates completely to show just how dumb some of the shit really is. The racial draft was a good example. That was just completely outrageous.

I got a lil bit to say about the 'N' word too. I don't even pay it any attention. IF people want to use it let them. It doesn't affect me, and it's more of a reflection on them then it is on me. The only way to really get rid of it, is to not pay it any attention. One of the main reasons people still say it, is because it has power to "excuse" a black man acting uncivilized. Now if a person decides to put his hands on you, then that's a different story...

But yeah good posts, keep the thoughts comin.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: so u guys really arent thugz ?? where does most of american english slang come from, huh!?

What do you mean by "u guys"? Clearly you aren't referring to NomadaNare. He is one of the most intelligent posters that I have seen on TA. Not necessarily because of this thread because it is a very touchy subject. It's his objectiveness and well thought out posts.

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Originally posted by trancebrat What do you mean by "u guys"? Clearly you aren't referring to NomadaNare. He is one of the most intelligent posters that I have seen on TA. Not necessarily because of this thread because it is a very touchy subject. It's his objectiveness and well thought out posts.

Youre talking to Heinz here...

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Originally posted by NomadaNare I got a lil bit to say about the 'N' word too. I don't even pay it any attention. IF people want to use it let them. It doesn't affect me, and it's more of a reflection on them then it is on me. The only way to really get rid of it, is to not pay it any attention. One of the main reasons people still say it, is because it has power to "excuse" a black man acting uncivilized. Now if a person decides to put his hands on you, then that's a different story...

I'm refreshed that you see it that way. Political advocacy groups who claim to represent minority groups such as blacks, women, and homosexuals work very hard to brainwash their "constituency" into self-imposed victimhood. They - of course - don't simply ignore insults or epithets, but feel the need to aggressively crusade against them, while slyly implying that these incidents are indicative of a pervasive social "hatred."

It's really self-serving, though. They're raking in hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to pretend they're defending the rights of minority groups. But if they ever eradicated racism or sexism the money flow would stop. So they don't really want to solve anything, they just put on a good show for everyone, collect some donations, and pay themselves outrageous salaries. I must give them credit, it's an excellent scam. But the actual damage they do to the groups they purport to represent is much greater than one might imagine.

90% of the people who use the "N word" from time to time are not very racist... perhaps only slightly so. You can either ignore it, and show them your inner strength, or you can allow it to control you, and reinforce their beliefs. One choice helps fight racism; the other helps strengthen it. I'm always glad to see people who know how to make the right choice.

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Originally posted by Orbax Youre talking to Heinz here...

Yes...you are right. Stupid me.

i only read the 1stpage of this thread, and i only read a little bit. well this is wat i have to say, put blak on the side for now.. there is a much worse race out there, that is "punjabi" or "sikh".. or simplyput.. "indian" im as mad as the person who started this thread, he spoke all my words.. just add indian in fromt of blak..

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