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Posted by Eugene on Sep-16-2001 21:59:

I think that the people who deny the pictures of cheering Arabs or who think it could have been Israel or the U.S. itself that incited the attacks...

.. are seriously fucked up in the head.

Posted by fastmp3 on Sep-16-2001 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Izzy

also fastdjmp3, why do you have to incite those angers, even if what you say is true you are contridicting yourself by committing the same propoganda as you blame us for, why dont you state facts in a nuetral way, did it just slip your mind to mention all the terrorist attacks by palestinians? suicide bombings by clubs, restraunts, and in busses, road side detonations, snipers from palistinian homes shooting into jewish neighbourhoods. did you forget about that? also about sharon, i personally dont like him and prefer shimon peres but he did not commit the massacre, the ones who did were the south leboniese army, a christian faithed army might i add. the way sharon was involved was by knowing this was taking place and he didnt do anything to stop it.... so please fastdjmp3, dont incite the same BS facts and propoganda you blame us for spitting out.

I was just reminding you that if nowadays there are terrorist attacks , it's because USA & Israel started everything . They are the ones to blame ... don't expect from the others to sit and say : "ok we will not defend ourselves , we will let them do whatever they want to do with us" .

Posted by Eugene on Sep-16-2001 22:15:

Posted by Izzy on Sep-16-2001 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

I was just reminding you that if nowadays there are terrorist attacks , it's because USA & Israel started everything . They are the ones to blame ... don't expect from the others to sit and say : "ok we will not defend ourselves , we will let them do whatever they want to do with us" .

i am not here to point fingers, i try to be impartial and open to all sides.... i leave those desicions to the governments but what i feel from you is that you are justifying terrorism. Terrorism is wrong in all ways and the targeting of civilians should never happen, i condem it in all forms and by all people. it is never ok! you cant say that they're defending thereselves by committing these acts. there are other ways. what ever happened to diplomicy? why even let the violence slip into streets? and if it comes to it why target people who have nothing to do with it.

Posted by ripcurl on Sep-16-2001 22:33:

Posted by Some One on Sep-17-2001 07:07:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

I was just reminding you that if nowadays there are terrorist attacks , it's because USA & Israel started everything . They are the ones to blame ... don't expect from the others to sit and say : "ok we will not defend ourselves , we will let them do whatever they want to do with us" .

Then why do you even moved to this country?
You are disagree with any decision that the US seems to make and you are infact HAPPY that thousands of people DIED on tuesday, and that those 2 buildings came crashing down.

Now my question is : Why dont you go back to fucking morrocco and stay the fuck there!!!

let me guess, you dont like it there, you do not get the same freedom as you do in Canada and the US, when infact you are happy that your and my freedom have been compromized by YOUR beliefs

P.S. Israel is the home for A LOT of fucking morrocans, so the next time some fucking muslem/arab straps a bomb to himself, keep in mind that he is killing YOUR kind

Posted by cweb on Sep-17-2001 14:55:

ok now it starts to become ugly

What for lame last post that was...
Every time someone say that america and the western community is not innocent in this attack, people start shouting "you justify these attacks and you are happy these innocent people died", that fucking annoy me to hell!!! I do not justify these attacks by any means but you NEED to ask you whythese things happened? You need to fight the reasons not the symptoms! And by the way what did the USA several times? What was the hiroshima-bomb??? many thousands of innocent folks died and the long-time-damage is scary! And these werent soldiers these were innocent people like you and me!!! So stop fucking believe everything your gov. do is right. Of course we (the europeans) are not innocent as well, because with all this colonisation shit we are responsible for many conflicts in africa etc. look at the frontiers, straight lines...
The US gov. should think about there politics a bit more. You can bomb and kill the terrorists but when you dont solve the real problems in 50 years we'll have the same problems as today.

and when the us or any other 1.world country declares a war they go to their enemies and bomb their asses away. so when a 3-world-country or a militant group want to declare a ware what do they have for possibilities? they can not come to you and bomb you away with common weapons like b2, because they would be shot down before they're even really in the air. like one man said: "terrorism is the weapon of the 'not strong (sorry cant remember the word, german: 'schwachen')'

And to repeat I do not justify these attacks, there are also like 200 dead swiss guys, but the problem is not solved by bombing the terrorists away!

p.s. its somewhat difficult for me to write what I really think, because of the nglish language

Posted by Some One on Sep-17-2001 22:14:

Re: ok now it starts to become ugly

quote:
Originally posted by cweb

but the problem [wont be] solved by bombing the terrorists away!

WRONG -- no terrorists no attacks,bombings and suicide bombings

Posted by TimeWarp on Sep-18-2001 04:54:

A lot of u guys are forgetting the reason/s for the bombings on the WTC, Kobar Towers.. the USS Cole, the AMerican embassies in Africa.
Arabs/Muslims dont want ( believe it or not ) AMericans in their land be it for any reasons.
I was, as everyone else here was, deeply shocked at the WTC bombings...
But it came to no surprise to me... and people think im crazy when I say that the Americans had it comming all along.
Comming from the Middle East and living most of my life there, I know that there is a lot of hatred towards America.
U.S Foreign Policy doesnt work in the middle east.. and it doesnt work in Africa.. and anywhere else except "western" countries.... Americans have to realize that they aren't welcomed in those parts of the world. U dont come into a region thats many centuries older than Ur own with different traditions and cultures and expect to live happily side by side.
There was a post a by Eugene in this thread that said...
"Did you ever stop to think about how the U.S. protected Muslims in Bosnia? in Kuwait? "
First off.... America has never entered and international arena of conflict if it did not benefit them..
Eg.... The US didnt enter Vietnam to protect the people of Vietnam against the vietcong... They went in their as an excuse to put of a watch post to spy on the former USSR during the cold war.
Kuwait... I lived in Kuwait.... it was well know that American spy satellites has monitored the Iraqi troops organizing along the border... If they really wanted to have helped "save arabs" they would have initiated something earlier....
America got a heck of a sweet deal out of the war because of the wealth of Kuwait and all its oil. Rumors in Kuwait at the time hinted to Kuwait paying The US somewhere around 11 billion dollars..
America has a military base in Saudi Arabia ( which a lot of people are fumming over ) Reason for that?... to watch Iraq?......Iran???
Immediate aid to Israel incase of immenent danger???...America is the worlds self appointed Police and watchdog over other countries... whether these countries want their presence is the main reason for this backlash....

The US could have avoided all this if only they would have stuck their noses elsewhere..

Posted by djSlain on Sep-18-2001 05:00:

Re: ok now it starts to become ugly

quote:
Originally posted by cweb
What for lame last post that was...
Every time someone say that america and the western community is not innocent in this attack, people start shouting "you justify these attacks and you are happy these innocent people died", that fucking annoy me to hell!!! I do not justify these attacks by any means but you NEED to ask you whythese things happened? You need to fight the reasons not the symptoms! And by the way what did the USA several times? What was the hiroshima-bomb??? many thousands of innocent folks died and the long-time-damage is scary! And these werent soldiers these were innocent people like you and me!!! So stop fucking believe everything your gov. do is right. Of course we (the europeans) are not innocent as well, because with all this colonisation shit we are responsible for many conflicts in africa etc. look at the frontiers, straight lines...
The US gov. should think about there politics a bit more. You can bomb and kill the terrorists but when you dont solve the real problems in 50 years we'll have the same problems as today.

and when the us or any other 1.world country declares a war they go to their enemies and bomb their asses away. so when a 3-world-country or a militant group want to declare a ware what do they have for possibilities? they can not come to you and bomb you away with common weapons like b2, because they would be shot down before they're even really in the air. like one man said: "terrorism is the weapon of the 'not strong (sorry cant remember the word, german: 'schwachen')'

And to repeat I do not justify these attacks, there are also like 200 dead swiss guys, but the problem is not solved by bombing the terrorists away!

p.s. its somewhat difficult for me to write what I really think, because of the nglish language

1 less Bin Laden is 90% less Middle Eastern-organized terrorism. i win.

Posted by cweb on Sep-18-2001 10:52:

What happened to this world???
Look when you bomb away the terrorists there will be no more for a short time. But in like 30 years a new generation of islamic fundamentals will appear and you have the problem once again. And when you're bombing a whole country (like afghnistan) you make like the biggest mistake you can make. Because why bomb a country who is already bombed? bombings make only sense when you can destroy important military and economic bases, but there is very few of them in afghan, cos its already been destroyed. You'll only destroy the innocent people and the terrorists will hide in some mountains you can not destroy by air strikes.
I for one, do not think that osama bin laden is so important to the organised terrorism. He is important yes, but the next bin laden will appear sooner or later.
An important thing is to win those anti-terrorist in islamic countries to help the US to find and kill those wankers. Elsewhere by bombing the whole country you'll have to whole civilisation of these countries against you and the problems will only get bigger.

@TimeWarp: good post

Posted by TimeWarp on Sep-18-2001 14:41:

@ Cweb ... thanks..

I agree with Cweb..... why bomb a country that has already been destroyed by years of conflict with the former USSR??.. what is there to bomb??...
The people are under a repressive regime of hardliners that could care less about the welfare of their own people.
I mean.. does it make any sense to send the whole American military might against maybe 2000 nomads with AK-47's and stinger missles?...
And WHAT RU GOing to bomb?... Thier military fighter jet airports??.. they dont HAVE any... their tanks?.. the dont have any......
NO military targets = Civilian ones...

SO...
I ask everyone here... is it really worth bombing NOTHING??????
and on top of that.. doing so angering other middle eastern countries which could lead to more and terrible violence against the states....
And if AMerica goes... other countries such as AMerican allies are expected to tag along.. Like Canada.... which makes us a potential target to terrorists in the future..

Face it..America doesnt Know what theyre doing.. they wanna fight.. but cant see the enemy...so their gonna destroy every thing they can point a gun at in hopes to eventually hitting something.

PEACE

Posted by ZinG on Sep-18-2001 14:50:

To all of u here , read the 2 Threads i posted "Interesting Article..." and "Another Interesting Article...."
its just an article...u might disagree on , but the way i see it , most of it is true.
Peace!

Posted by juzfugen on Sep-18-2001 18:17:

YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT WE WANT BLOOD AND WE'LL GET IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SO WHAT IF AMERICA ONLY PROTECTS ITS INTREST IN THE WORLD ISNT THAT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY SHOULD DO I THINK SO. AND YES THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE US AND THATS GONNA HAPPEN REMINDS ME OF BEING IN HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THE ONE KID WHO GOT EVERYTHING HAD A LOT OF JEALOUS FRIENDS AND ENEMIES,IS AMERICA SPOILED YES WE ARE WE DO IT TO OURSELVES BIG DEAL AND THE COMMENT THAT WE WENT TO VIETNAM TO SET UP SPYING POST ON THE FORMER SOVIET UNION HA WHAT A JOKE GO BACK AND READ HISTORY WE DID TO STOP THE SPREAD OF COMMUNISM WHICH WE THE USA DID WE STOPPED IT FROM SPREADING ALL OVER EUROPE TOO. YOU KNOW HINDSIGHT IS 20/20 BUT MAYBE THE USA SHOULDA LET THE SOVIET UNION TAKE OVER ALL OF EUROPE WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE WITH OUT OUR INTERVENTION AT LEAST WE WOULD HAVE AN ENEMY THAT WE CAN COUNT ON NOT TO STRIKE SENSELESSLY LIKE THESE HEARTLESS BASTARDS DID. AND THE AFGHANASTAN DELIMA IS ONLY 3 COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RECOGNIZE THE TALIBAN GOVERT IN THAT COUNTRY IF WE DO ANYTHING IS MOST LIKELY GO OVERTHROW THEM HOPELY BRING THEM TO JUSTICE FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY DID YOU GUYS KNOW THEY HOLD WEEKLY PUBLIC EXECUTIONS EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT IN THE FORMER OLYMPIC STADIUM IN KABUL? IVE SEEN SEVERAL VIDEOS WHERE THEY LINE EM UP AND SHOOT THEM MOSTLY WOMEN TOO BUT THESE GUYS ARE THE EXTREME OF THE EXTREME AND THEY THREATEN THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE AND NEED AND WILL BE ELIMINATED END OF STORY!

Posted by ZinG on Sep-18-2001 19:56:

I wonder if they teach americans history back @ school.
No offense !
just wondering , *real history*

Posted by fastmp3 on Sep-18-2001 20:09:

U must be idiot to believe that America was defending Muslims in Kuwit and Bosnia ... STUPID & IDIOT COMMENT . America was protecting THE PETROL in Kuwait and her gaz PIPELINES in Bosnia . U guys don't even know what's happening right now in the world , they don't even teach you a PROPER history @ school , just look at "DOUBLE YOU" (LMAO) Bush ... pathetic ...

to Some One : just shut the fuck up , i live in Canada not USA (ROFL) , and the "fucking" Moroccans (like u call them) they tell you also shut the fuck up . Go take some history classes , u really need them

Posted by ZinG on Sep-18-2001 20:12:

FASTDJMP3 relax plz
no trashy and potty mouch around here.
keep it clean or else i'd ask Blik to close this thread(which i hope he agrees with me)
Peace!

Posted by fastmp3 on Sep-18-2001 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Zing
FASTDJMP3 relax plz
no trashy and potty mouch around here.
keep it clean or else i'd ask Blik to close this thread(which i hope he agrees with me)
Peace!

i agree that this thread has to be closed , but i was just defending myself tho ...

Posted by cweb on Sep-18-2001 20:58:

where the fuck is my fucking post?????

Posted by Some One on Sep-19-2001 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3

to Some One : just shut the fuck up , i live in Canada not USA (ROFL) , and the "fucking" Moroccans (like u call them) they tell you also shut the fuck up . Go take some history classes , u really need them

Its scum like you that do not deserve to live in this country.

Canada is like USA... and if we had a plane fly into one of our buildings then the USA would do all it can to help us out, even if it would be going into war. So you shut the fuck up, you do not derserve to live in this country if you do not agree with our ways of life. Morroco's border is always open.

>they tell you also shut the fuck up

P.S. I used to beat up morrocans in Israel... they were the Scum of Israel, cuz there was many of them and they were all stupid. (if they are muslim and dont like israel... why did they move there?)

Posted by djSlain on Sep-19-2001 04:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Some One

Its scum like you that do not deserve to live in this country.

Canada is like USA... and if we had a plane fly into one of our buildings then the USA would do all it can to help us out, even if it would be going into war. So you shut the fuck up, you do not derserve to live in this country if you do not agree with our ways of life. Morroco's border is always open.

>they tell you also shut the fuck up

P.S. I used to beat up morrocans in Israel... they were the Scum of Israel, cuz there was many of them and they were all stupid. (if they are muslim and dont like israel... why did they move there?)

and mr. some one, you don't deserve to be on these boards. I am truly recommending a Ban on you. In fact, i hope an airplane flies into your head because we don't need people who think like you on this board OR earth. Moderator?

not only have you shown a hostile attitude in these forums, you have shown a hostile attittude towards other human beings with your comment "i used to beat up morrocans in Isreal..." Wow. The Intellectual Aptitute you have shown by posting that. Do you get paper cuts while using the computer? How stupid are you? Are u some kind of sick genocidal freak? ALA Slobedon Melosivic? Once again, i ask for a BAN, permanent on this stray being.

Posted by juzfugen on Sep-19-2001 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
U must be idiot to believe that America was defending Muslims in Kuwit and Bosnia ... STUPID & IDIOT COMMENT . America was protecting THE PETROL in Kuwait and her gaz PIPELINES in Bosnia . U guys don't even know what's happening right now in the world , they don't even teach you a PROPER history @ school , just look at "DOUBLE YOU" (LMAO) Bush ... pathetic ...

to Some One : just shut the fuck up , i live in Canada not USA (ROFL) , and the "fucking" Moroccans (like u call them) they tell you also shut the fuck up . Go take some history classes , u really need them

oh yes im an idiot a 28 year old idiot with my bs degree in politcal science and my masters in business finance hello!!! your reterick shows your ignorance dont commit on mine you dont know me i was stating facts believe what your unedecated mind believes it doesnt matter sir because you are wrong plain and simple and ok you live in canada whats your point? you say your moroccan and proud then go back why are you here? im not even gonna start to get into this but you really need to get your facts straight before you speak it only makes you look bad dont let emotion get in the way of your education because stupidity only causes more problems. and for history class teachings every country will put their own spin on things they teach they kids everyone does it its called self assuring propaganda look it up the us does it the canadians do it the british do it everyone does it so for the "real history" its all in the eye of the beholder. and im sure its people like you who like to bash america and say you guys think the world revovles around the usa well we dont think it does everyone else does and this past week just proves it even more not only is OUR news leading the storys across the world but our stock markets closes for the week ever other countries markets end the week on down turns the world is not as large a place as it was 10 years ago so in effect anything the affects the usa will inturn effect the rest of the world does that makes us the center of the world? i dont think so but those werent my words

Posted by PSi on Sep-19-2001 05:41:

Posted by Narcotic Mind on Sep-19-2001 07:10:

Posted by ripcurl on Sep-19-2001 08:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Some One

Its scum like you that do not deserve to live in this country.

Canada is like USA... and if we had a plane fly into one of our buildings then the USA would do all it can to help us out, even if it would be going into war. So you shut the fuck up, you do not derserve to live in this country if you do not agree with our ways of life. Morroco's border is always open.

>they tell you also shut the fuck up

P.S. I used to beat up morrocans in Israel... they were the Scum of Israel, cuz there was many of them and they were all stupid. (if they are muslim and dont like israel... why did they move there?)

i think that people like you that used to live in israel are the same people i hate seing in clubs, by the way you commented i think you are a bolli or an "ARS", so please dont make israel as a place that people "Beat up" people because of thier origin

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