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Posted by Ibiza Dreams on Sep-17-2001 14:20:

Here's a bit more info on the OICW rifle, pretty interesting stuff...
http://www.military.com/Resources/E...ICW&cat=w&lev=2

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Posted by Dj Lex on Sep-17-2001 14:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Ibiza Dreams
Here's a bit more info on the OICW rifle, pretty interesting stuff...
http://www.military.com/Resources/E...ICW&cat=w&lev=2

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Wow impressive gun! Is/are (?sorry) the USA using this weapon or os it just for the information. Coz the specs don't lie.


Posted by Fundamental on Sep-17-2001 14:47:

Sorry Lex, I was speaking to Viceroy...

Yup, the OICW is both impressive and impressively scary.


Posted by cweb on Sep-17-2001 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Lex
It is sad for The Afganistan civilians. Sure the American civilians are killed too, but I think that isn't a reason to kill those civilians too, but it is the only way I think. This ''war'' can't be solved without many victoms. It is against my nature too kill all those people. Those Taliban people, those should all die, coz they protect Osama Bin Laden, but normal people don't even know what s happening.
Sad this whole story.


GOOD post!
You must also consider that the terrorist-group is not only concentratet in afghanistan!! Almost every country in the middle east has some terrorist-group, dont think it will be a short-war...

And these "yeah-yupee-yeah-its war, we bom afghanistan back to 923-people" make me puke!


Posted by StereoPrincess on Sep-17-2001 17:03:

I also don't think its going to be a short thing. The Afganis are super tough and they know how to fight. But I highly doubt that its going to be a ground war. Its all going to be in the air because the countries are so far apart. they are just going to be going back and forth in the air. I also heard about that lazer plane, very destructive.


Posted by cweb on Sep-17-2001 19:35:

hm but that would be bullshit. with an air strike the army only destroys the economie and innocent people. you must know, that this is a new kind of war, there arent any military basis or machines, you will have to fight against people, and that is not possible with air-strike. You have to go to the ground with special-groups AND the help of the opposition (like in afghanistan), because they know their country a lot better than the US.


Posted by Narcotic Mind on Sep-17-2001 21:57:

The one thing i don't understand is why everybody is rushing to war:
from what i understood the operation worked likes this: Bin Laden supplied the money, the Jihad figured the strategy and the hizballuh supplied the sucide hijackers, i don't know if that's exaclt currect but it doesn't matter since any of those 3 organizations doesn't have a direct connection to any county's goverment, atleast not that we know of, and perhaps Bin Laden is hiding in afgan, but it doesn't mean that they want him there... he could go to any house and threat the people to hide him or he kills them... perhaps they do have something to do with him, but it's not confired, and you don't go to war on blind, you gotta be 100% sure that you are targeting the right people.


Posted by amit on Sep-17-2001 23:36:

this war IS GONNA MAKE WW3. These are the reasons.
1. Eyqpt Declined the offer to bomb afganistan
2. Since all the Oil comes from Middle East. Theres gonna be a pressure from the US, of not fighting.
3. If Pakistan Fights against Afganistan, then its fucked for good. Afgainistan and many other muslim countries will attack them. Its like killing there own kind if pakistan helps the US. Its against there religon. Either whay its fucked for good! if they dont help the US, the US is gonna BOMB THE SHIT OF OF PAKISTAN. SO either way its fucked.
4. Nuclear bombs and Chemcial weapons are a real threat. I dont care how much the US got, but u never know that there might be a nuclear bomb in the US as we speak ready to launch.
5. I dont care how our military has or does. I dont think they could handle the afgainistan terriost or there military. There military is trained well. So its going to be really hard!

***6. Even if we go to war, Just imagine how many people are going to die and just guess whats gonna happen to the US. If we gonna kill some ones family, and lets say there son is the only person alive. That ****** is gonna be pissed at the US. and going to Kill Everyone in the US. or cause damage to it. Cause hes going to seek for a revenge. So i think we shouldnt do this shit cause it happenes every fucking day in the middle east.

those are my reasons, and hopefully Bush wont be an idoit go to war. Cause i am not ready to fight for no one. I dont give a fuck.


Posted by djSlain on Sep-18-2001 00:55:

Quite possibly the funniest thing having to do with such sophisticated weapons

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...?threadid=79080

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From the Land Warrior Info Site:
Software Subsystem:

Modular, open architecture

Provides tactical and mission data support

Adheres to Joint Technical Architecture-Army (JTA-A) and Common Operating Environment (COE) for maximum use of GOTS software and interoperability support

Microsoft� Windows� Operating System provides compatibility with commercial interfaces

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KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- 10 US soldiers were killed by blue screens today in an armed conflict on what is believed to be one of Osama Bin Laden's headquarters. The commander in charge of the operation broadcast this frantic message to his squadmates moments before falling prey to enemy sniper fire: "I'm picking up multiple targets on the rooftop. Shit. Wait... A fatal exception 0E has occurreded in VXD:VMM(01908CF1x0)??? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABOUT?"

As a result of these, and many other blue screen-related fatalities, President Bush convened a joint meeting of Congress to request authorization to "use all necessary and appropriate force" to bring Microsoft to justice.

"These covert attacks against American troops from Microsoft will not stand," said Bush in a recent press conference. "Microsoft has repeatedly shown its ineptitude in creating a stable, efficient operating system that can recover from exceptions, traps, and general protection faults. And they will be punished."

When asked for comment, Sec. of State Colin Powell simply replied, "Fucking Windows."

Added Bush, "These aren't just fatal exception errors. These are declarations of war."


and big gun


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Sep-18-2001 02:34:

^LMAO! I have to say, that was one of the funniest things I've read all day!


Posted by cweb on Sep-18-2001 11:59:

These Middle East countries claimed only to fight against terrorism (a problem in their countries as well), BUT if the US make a stupid war against a country (like bombing the country back to 0), which will not kill the terrorist but many innocent people, these governments will turn the back against the US.
And one more thing: Pakistan for example. The government is willing to help the US, but many people in this country are NOT, and they have terrorist group as well!

It will be a terrible war...

But its also clear that you have to do something. You cant say: "oh that was a sad thing you did, but we will not punish you..." thats shit! You have to punish them (but wisely) but you also have to find out the REAL reasons why this happened.


Posted by Phrozen on Sep-18-2001 12:06:

Two more days....

Then hell brakes lose


Posted by Dj Lex on Sep-18-2001 17:14:

Another breaktrough! The Taliban is talking about livering out Osama Bin Laden to the USA. I hope they do, coz then there isn't going to be a war. Then Osama gets death penalty and the whole story is over. I hope Afghanistan act smart and delivers this monster to the USA. They get saved then too.


Posted by Dj Lex on Sep-18-2001 17:14:

Another breaktrough! The Taliban is talking about livering out Osama Bin Laden to the USA. I hope they do, coz then there isn't going to be a war. Then Osama gets death penalty and the whole story is over. I hope Afghanistan act smart and delivers this monster to the USA. They get saved then too. Although they are guilty of giving Osama a roof above his head.


Posted by cweb on Sep-18-2001 17:50:

dont think so. bush has declared that he plans to have a fight against the international terrorism, and bin laden is not THE terrorism, he is just one important figure.


Posted by Dj Lex on Sep-18-2001 18:27:

quote:
Originally posted by cweb
dont think so. bush has declared that he plans to have a fight against the international terrorism, and bin laden is not THE terrorism, he is just one important figure.


Yes that is true, but is Afghanistan terrorism?
Or are they just an example? That is the question. I don't think the country stands for terrorism and if they deliver Osama then there is no need for bombings. That is just how I think of it.


Posted by Phrozen on Sep-18-2001 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Lex


Yes that is true, but is Afghanistan terrorism?
Or are they just an example? That is the question. I don't think the country stands for terrorism and if they deliver Osama then there is no need for bombings. That is just how I think of it.


Usa should stay cool if Bin laden is turned over...Don't think he will like it tought.


Posted by cweb on Sep-18-2001 19:34:

I dont think afghanistan is terrorism(perhaps the inofficial gov. is).
But Bush said that he will punish those behind the attacks AND those who protect them... and there are several terrorist camps in afghanistan, and bin laden couldnt do all by himself.


Posted by djSlain on Sep-18-2001 22:07:

does anyone have any in-depth articles on how USA handles justice to non-US citizens?


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