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Although I'm glad that this is finally coming out, I feel that the worst part for me (and probably some others as well) being a TA member who actively buys on here and ebay, is that we were right about the whole thing.

We thought it was a scam and it was.

My trust and faith in TA's members and buying section has dropped.

I have read this throughout and my opinion is that the whole truth still isn't there. Before it was actively and somewhat convincingly trying to prove his honesty, innocence and integruity. And now he is actively and again somewhat convincingly trying to prove his poor health in the same way. I'm not saying he is or isn't lying as I am just speculating but just as before (and I was right before) something still doesn't seem right.

Can you elaborate a bit more on what isnt right? Its been proven now that I am not lying about my illness. I even posted a picture of my medication that says PROZAC on it, which is an anti depressent.

Again, I am not trying to say that my depression is what causes me to do this. I am saying that it is something I have, and that I subconsciously engage myself in risky activites in order to get adrenaline rushes. My type of depression is very numbing to my body, so I do anything I can to feel emotion..

Does this make more sense?

I dont see as to why I would lie at this point? I have confessed to the scam. People are already receiving their refunds. What could I possible have left to lie about?

My reputation is already ruined. I am already at rock bottom.

Also, I would hate for the For Sale forum to fall apart because of this.

You guys need to understand that the For Sale forum has been on TA much longer than I have. There have been hundreds of successful transactions.

Tegu and DJThanh expressed the same concern over internet transactions to me on AIM after i confessed.

This is what I told them. The moral of the story is, if something is too good to be true, it is.

I mean, the deal I gave Tegu was a $1600 mixer for, $900 (Brand NEW). The deal I gave DJ Thanh was a $350 pioneer efx-500 for $200 (Brand New). Ask yourself next time, why would someone sell a brand new item that cheap?


Also, try making an effort to get in contact with the person on the phone before you send the money. This way you get a sense of what the person is like by hearing their voice. Often, a scammer will not want to talk on the phone for fear of being traced later on. If someone refuses to talk to you over the phone, its an immediate red flag.

As for PayPal, do not be fooled by this service. They offer a false sense of security to their members with their "$5,000 buyer protection policy." Many people have been screwed by Paypal, the company itself. Please visit www.paypalsucks.com where a friend of mine recorded a conversation he had with PayPal operators regarding money they literally stole out of his bank account without his consent. You will also be able to read testimony from a former paypal employee regarding internal practices.

Although it can be expensive, for large items like mixers, I would use an escrow service like escrow.com

Cash on Delivery is another option as well.

NEVER EVER send money orders or personal checks as they are untraceable. I was telling DJ Thanh and Tegu today on AIM, that even after I was caught with IP match, I could have EASILY just disappeared from the site and taken off with he money. Even with Tegu, I could have ran away with his money even though he used PayPal. They are lucky that I was a scammer that eventually wanted to do the right thing.

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Originally posted by djtrinity you people may think i am mad for say'n this....this may even be what he wants......but he is making attempts to pay money back....its prolle all bullshit anyway but how would u feel if this kid put a bullet in his head???????? would u be able to live with that?? ofcourse maybe he just try'n to get sympathy and this is more lies...but if i were any of u guys @ this point i would just let him try to pay me back and accept that he would prolle never would pay me back...... he at least admited it was him.....and we all know very well we can be scammed on this internet ..... that ancient phrase 'let the buyer beware'....... is this kids life gett'n wrecked worth a couple grand.....think about this guys........

Thank you mate, I appreciate the concern. I will not be putting a bullet in my head. I have been up all night thinking more rationally. I think that once everyone is paid, maybe Jthorn can remove all of the stuff he posted about me in his blog, and these threads can be erased, so that I can have closure and this wont haunt me for the rest of my life, when potential employers do background checks on me via google (fairly common practice these days)

Regardless if the mental illness spiel is true or not, the police still need to be notified. As i said in my earlier post, the bullshit alarm is going off in my head again and it seems like another lie so Tegu and the others don't get the police involved. And Spective, you can say whatever you want about the police not being interested, but I guarantee when 6 people come forward they'll be interested no matter how big or small the amounts of money involved are.
As you yourself said, you wouldn't have owned up to any of this if it hadn't come to light that you and "Stacey" had matching IP addresses.
And if you are truly sorry about ripping those people off, maybe you should sell the digital camera you used to take photos of your arm, and the computer your using to log onto TA, and use the money to pay these people back. These people should not have to wait to be reimbursed, or to be asked to sell something on ebay and then you make up the difference.
If that fails mate, take a trip to see your bank manager and tell him your a lowlife scamming prick who needs a loan so he can pay back the people he ripped off.
These may seem life harsh words, but you deserve every bit of it.

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he bullshit alarm is going off in my head again and it seems like another lie so Tegu and the others don't get the police involved.

So my mental illness is a ploy to stall Tegu? Makes no sense. Did I not post above that I got a loan from a friend and will paying Tegu back by next week? Did I not say that 4/5 people will have been paid by the end of next week? Has 1 person not already posted that he received my payment?

And how do you propose I sell those items mate? On TA where noone trusts me? On eBay where Ive been banned from? How do you reckon people should pay me? Via money order/personal check which I explicitly said in my post about how people can avoid getting scammed? Via PayPal where I have been banned? Let me know mate.

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Regardless if the mental illness spiel is true or not

If a picture that shows scars from cutting my arms with a knife and a picture of my medication not damning proof of my illness, what the fuck is? Do I need to go on a shootin spree somewhere in order to get you all to believe me when I say Ive been diagnosed with depression?

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Originally posted by Spective Thank you mate, I appreciate the concern. I will not be putting a bullet in my head. I have been up all night thinking more rationally. I think that once everyone is paid, maybe Jthorn can remove all of the stuff he posted about me in his blog, and these threads can be erased, so that I can have closure and this wont haunt me for the rest of my life, when potential employers do background checks on me via google (fairly common practice these days)

While I can empathize with you, your depression doesn't make you unique or special. Every criminal has some real reason for what they do... that doesn't make it "OK". Our prisons are filled with people who had horrible childhoods or suffered from a range of mental illnesses. Society dictates a line between who made a rational decision to do something, and who is truly at the mercy of their own demons. It's obvious what side of that line you were on.

At some point you have to realize that, to other people, you are what you do.

If I were a potential employer of yours, I'd certainly want to know about this. Nothing like this will mean much if you do the right thing from here on out and stop making more excuses. Your words don't carry much weight right now and there's a price to be paid for what you've done. Stop trying to avoid it and take it like a man. Your future depends on it.

[Edit... I tend to comma-splice a lot!]

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Originally posted by LouieH While I can empathize with you, your depression doesn't make you unique or special. Every criminal has some real reason for what they do... that doesn't make it "OK". Our prisons are filled with people who had horrible childhoods or suffered from a range of mental illnesses. Society dictates a line between who made a rational decision to do something, and who is truly at the mercy of their own demons. It's obvious what side of that line you were on. At some point you have to realize that, to other people, you are what you do. If I were a potential employer of yours, I'd certainly want to know about this. Nothing like this will mean much if you do the right thing from here on out and stop making more excuses. Your words don't carry much weight right now, and there's a price to be paid for what you've done. Stop trying to avoid it, and take it like a man. Your future depends on it.

I feel as if my microphone isnt on or something. Did I ever say that I blame this whole thing on my depression? Did I not say that I understand that what I did was wrong?

These are not excuses. I am not trying to justify what I did. All I did was make a post, explaining my background, and give the truth on what happened.

Can you tell me how I am trying to avoid it if I came clean about EVERYTHING I did and if I already started paying people?

You make it sound like I spent my whole life cheating people out of their money. I made a mistake. A huge mistake I understand, but it was a mistake. I regret doing it. I learned from it. I am pro-actively taking steps to rectify it.

What I dont understand is, why would you continue to beat someone down with a stick who is trying to make things right? Its like encouraging me to just run in the other direction, when the direction I am taking right now is the right one?

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Originally posted by Spective I feel as if my microphone isnt on or something. Did I ever say that I blame this whole thing on my depression? Did I not say that I understand that what I did was wrong? These are not excuses. I am not trying to justify what I did. All I did was make a post, explaining my background, and give the truth on what happened. Can you tell me how I am trying to avoid it if I came clean about EVERYTHING I did and if I already started paying people? You make it sound like I spent my whole life cheating people out of their money. I made a mistake. A huge mistake I understand, but it was a mistake. I regret doing it. I learned from it. I am pro-actively taking steps to rectify it. What I dont understand is, why would you continue to beat someone down with a stick who is trying to make things right? Its like encouraging me to just run in the other direction, when the direction I am taking right now is the right one?

I'm not trying to beat you down. I'm trying to help.

If you truly wanted to come clean, your depression wouldn't have even factored into this. You'd simply have owned up to your actions, tried to make restitution if you can, and accepted whatever consequences were coming - no matter what they are. It's another excuse in a long line of them. The only difference this time is that the excuse doesn't have fictional grounds.

Even before you were caught you were trying this whole time to get this thing erased... gone! It's not that easy! You say you've reached bottom yet it appears to me as if you're still struggling to float away from this mess with your reputation (outside of the people that know about this) intact.

To me, it seems like you're finally seeing that your actions have the potential to cause real consequences for you now and you're still trying to run away from them. I'm calling you out on it because I think taking responsibility for what you've done and not trying to fight the consequences will do you some good.

The depression issue is linked to one thing, emotion. I was trying to offer an explanation as to why people like myself hurt themselves, put themselves in danger, and/or steal - to feel endorphine/adrenaline highs.

I am not saying that everyone should dismiss this because I have a mental disorder.

Let me put it this way. When a crime happens, the first thing the police ask is "What could be his/her motivation to do this?" This helps them understand what they are dealing with in the grand scheme of things.

And as I have said countless times, I am not afraid of legal consequences in this. I have studied law for 3 years now, and I know that in a non violent cold case like this, where the suspect admits guilt, and offers restitution, the police need not interfere because there are unfortunately scammers out there, who run away with the money and disappear.

You maybe right about me wanting to protect my reputation. But isnt that what any person who commits a crime would want to do? To fix his/her mistake, learn from it, and become a better person in the future?

I look at it this way. Our past is inscribed in stone, not written in chalk. Yet, when a mistake is made, its like people think anything good Ive done in the past is written in chalk and has to be erased, while the mistakes I made are inscribed in stone forever.

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Originally posted by Spective The depression issue is linked to one thing, emotion. I was trying to offer an explanation as to why people like myself hurt themselves, put themselves in danger, and/or steal - to feel endorphine/adrenaline highs. I am not saying that everyone should dismiss this because I have a mental disorder. Let me put it this way. When a crime happens, the first thing the police ask is "What could be his/her motivation to do this?" This helps them understand what they are dealing with in the grand scheme of things. And as I have said countless times, I am not afraid of legal consequences in this. I have studied law for 3 years now, and I know that in a non violent cold case like this, where the suspect admits guilt, and offers restitution, the police need not interfere because there are unfortunately scammers out there, who run away with the money and disappear. You maybe right about me wanting to protect my reputation. But isnt that what any person who commits a crime would want to do? To fix his/her mistake, learn from it, and become a better person in the future? I look at it this way. Our past is inscribed in stone, not written in chalk. Yet, when a mistake is made, its like people think anything good Ive done in the past is written and chalk and has to be erased, while the mistakes I made are inscribed in stone forever.

crime?

you actually committed 7 crimes, 6 rip offs and 1 crime, the mistrust of those people.

Simcut, where did I say I committed 1 crime?

I was not speaking in personal reference both times I used the word crime.

I said When a crime happens, the first thin gthe police ask is ...........

Why would I put crime in plural there? Its not like the police only ask about motivation when multiple crimes are committed.

I said But isnt that what any person who commits a crime would want to do?......

Again, why would I make crime plural there? Any person, whether it be me or someone else, who commits any sort of crime would want to fix the mistake, learn from it, and become a better person

Does this clear it up? Maybe you should be responding to the more important things in my post. Picking at little things like that show me that you cant find anything worthwhile to try attacking me with

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Originally posted by Spective You maybe right about me wanting to protect my reputation. But isnt that what any person who commits a crime would want to do? To fix his/her mistake, learn from it, and become a better person in the future?

I'll answer to this part, because I've said everything I'm going to say about your depression. You can take that or leave it.

Part of becoming a better person is not trying to erase or "fix" what you've done. It's paying the price and accepting it. Reputation is something you build over time. You've just destroyed yours, and it's going to take time to rebuild it. Expecting anything different is fooling yourself.

If this one period of time in your life haunts you for a while, that's all the more reason not to do the same thing again. What you do from here on out will either build your reputation back or drive it down further into the mud. For the near future people will be wary of dealing with you. I think they have every right to be. Denying them the chance of finding out what you have done is doing them wrong. It also isn't doing you much good either - as it gives you more of an impetus to try the same thing if you find yourself in desperate circumstances in the future, only "smarter" next time.

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Originally posted by LouieH I'll answer to this part, because I've said everything I'm going to say about your depression. You can take that or leave it. Part of becoming a better person is not trying to erase or "fix" what you've done. It's paying the price and accepting it. Reputation is something you build over time. You've just destroyed yours, and it's going to take time to rebuild it. Expecting anything different is fooling yourself. If this one period of time in your life haunts you for a while, that's all the more reason not to do the same thing again. What you do from here on out will either build your reputation back or drive it down further into the mud. For the near future people will be wary of dealing with you. I think they have every right to be. Denying them the chance of finding out what you have done is doing them wrong. It also isn't doing you much good either - as it gives you more of an impetus to try the same thing if you find yourself in desperate circumstances in the future, only "smarter" next time.

OK we both said our pieces on the depression.

Other than that, I fully agree with your post. Believe me, my direction from here on out is to continue to slowly build trust with you all over time. Locally, I will continue DJing for various charities. On August 11, I will be opening for Jondi and Spesh and have asked that the DJ fees they offered me to be donated to their homeless shelter cause (i requested my fees be donated, way before this scam stuff happened.)

I have definitely learned my lesson. You know, this is one of the situations people can use to say "money doesnt buy happiness." I tried to obtain money to buy things that make me truly happy, but in the long run, it has made me unhappy.

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Stop making it sound like I refuse to give you your money back. Money doesnt just come from out of thin air.

Good that you acknowledge this - the money you acquired indeed did not come from thin air, it came from my account.

I gave you ample chances to refund my money and walk away with the laptop. You have lied to me consistantly for the past 2 months, and have tried repeatedly to deceive the members of this community.

Now that you have finally revealed the truth, you act as if all should be forgiven. You seem confident that you can beat the system, and that your offers here are solely to our benefit and not to your own. You act as if it is you who are making a sacrifice, and not the people from whom you have stolen.

You have proven yourself untrustworthy in the past, and while it may be true that you have now had a change of heart, as you must surely understand I cannot take what you say at face value.

In the resolution of the situation, there can be no shades of grey - either I have my money fully and promptly returned, or I continue to try to have it returned. I have already been fighting this situation for months, and it should be obvious why I cannot accept any offers of an installment plan from you at this point.

It isn't that I don't understand - I'm sure you've spent most or all of my money - it's that I don't care. The only thing that matters to me now is getting all of my money back swiftly. If you really care about making that happen, I'm sure you can find a way to do so.

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Now that you have finally revealed the truth, you act as if all should be forgiven.Now that you have finally revealed the truth, you act as if all should be forgiven.

Stop making assumptions. I have said countless times that I am not looking for sympathy or forgiveness. I am not trying to beat the system. How is admitting guilt to crimeS (said that one for simcut) and offering restitution to the victims beating the system? If you are referring to my comments about not being scared about the agencies you have contacted, I would rephrase it like this. I am confident that the system will not work in the way you think it will.

I figured that many people would jump to the opportunity to learn what motivates someone to commit a crime, on a much deeper level. Apparently, I was wrong. Most of you just seem to want to continue putting your own spin on what I say and make judgements.

I have also said continually that I am going to work extra hours and do anything I can to reimburse you. Just because you want it now doesnt mean the money will magically appear in my bank account for me to send to you. I even told you to continue your persuits via law enforcement and fraud prevention agencies.

I think at this point, the best thing you can do is persue your CC company to go after PayPal and be aggressive with them. This way, PayPal will give you your money right away, and then I will be left to deal with them on their legal terms.

Does this clear things up a bit more for everyone?

Out of curiosity...

What did you spend the money on? A few of these have only happened recently so that's why you could refund some of them.

Please don't tell me it was a loan payback or you were behind on other payments because i'm sure you would of put that in your excuse/apology.

So what did you buy? New records? New turntables? New mixer?

Its a good question, but I wont answer it - only because its just going to give another reason for everyone to attack, when I am trying to bring closure to this, so the For SAle forum can return to just sales, not drama. Also, judging on my attempts to bring the truth forward thus far, all people are going to say is "Yeah right" and then fabricate an idea of what I used the money on.

All I can say, is that I didnt spend it on my studio. My studio was all purchased before I made this mistake. I need to make it a point that my decision came during a point of desperation. I didnt wake up one morning and think "Hey, lets screw people over today after I have my morning tea and toast!"

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Originally posted by Spective Its a good question, but I wont answer it - only because its just going to give another reason for everyone to attack, when I am trying to bring closure to this, so the For SAle forum can return to just sales, not drama. All I can say, is that I didnt spend it on my studio. My studio was all purchased before I made this mistake. I need to make it a point that my decision came during a point of desperation. I didnt wake up one morning and think "Hey, lets screw people over today after I have my morning tea and toast!"

I don't see why you won't answer it. You already said you're at the lowest you can go. Did you buy records? Was it money to set another scam up?

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people are going to say is "Yeah right" and then fabricate an idea of what I used the money on.

You just proved my point. Instead of just asking the question, you decided to make guesses. Speculation isnt going to help bring this whole thing to end.

I will say one of the items I used the money on, which was 2 months worth of rent I owed.

The motivation for all crime that is committed by sane people is simple: They want something so bad that they're willing to risk the only truly valuable things that they own - Their name, their freedom, and their future.

It doesn't matter much what it is they want or why. It matters more what they're willing to pay to get it.

Usually it isn't worth the price.

I think that your post is good beacuse it explains the surface reason. My surface reason for doing this was to get money to pay for somethings, including my rent. However, numerous psychologists understand there is a deeper subconcious force at work. AS I explained, I havent been able to feel my body for 6 years. So in turn, I subconsciously do things that bring emotions of unpredictability and excitement to my life. Now I am not saying this was an exciting experience in a positive way. I am just saying that the uncertainty of the situation brought a lot of adrenaline that stemmed from fear.

Good post mate.

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Originally posted by Spective You just proved my point. Instead of just asking the question, you decided to make guesses. Speculation isnt going to help bring this whole thing to end. I will say one of the items I used the money on, which was 2 months worth of rent I owed.

I did ask the question and you didn't answer. What else have i to go on? Making guesses makes it easier to answer the question. Just as if everyone hadn't of thought you scammed them you probably wouldn't of come clean. People's suggestions and guesses does genuinely make it easier. Think about it.

Also coming clean will help get it off your chest. It's obviously something sensitive otherwise you would not post saying you are not going to tell us for fear of more attacks.

And it can't be as sensitive as you telling us that you wanted to take your own life and had the gun to your head, so I see no plausable reason for you not to say what it is.

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How is admitting guilt to crimeS (said that one for simcut) and offering restitution to the victims beating the system?

If you steal something, hold onto it for 2 months, and then offer to gradually return it over a period of time after much duress, you do not change the fact that you are a criminal. While returning the money is certainly the proper course of action, it does not change the fact that you commited a crime.

There are factors other than the the raw monetary value of an item, and you have impacted people's lives beyond the immediately evident financial harm. There is emotional duress, there is effort expended, there is lost interest and lost purchasing power. As for me, I have been unable to purchase the item I require as this has all dragged on, mired in uncertainly. You have done real harm to real people through your crimes, even should you return the funds at some point.

If you returned all of my money today, would I just walk away from this? I honestly don't know the answer to that.

If I just walked away, then you certainly would have managed to beat the system. You would have consumed countless hours of my and other forum members' lives that were spent trying to right what you have done, and you effectively would exit the situation no worse than you entered - save for a lost eBay account and some bad blood on a forum. You would even have effectively managed some really wonderful terms on a $2300 loan - 0% interest with no payments.

If I had just walked away to begin with, then you might still be scamming people now. Hell, for all I know, you still could be doing so elsewhere - I cannot truly believe you now, and you must surely understand why. Once somebody has demonstrated that he is a liar countless times over, it is indeed very hard to prove the negative.

My sense of justice tells me that every avenue should be pursued, that walking away now is absolutely the wrong thing to do. But I must admit that you've worn me down so much over the past months that I would strongly consider taking the money and walking away, just so the whole god forsaken mess could be out of my life.

And maybe you are right after all, maybe the system will just completely fail. It's really a quite depressing thought.

Of course, that is all moot anyway. You cannot or will not return all of my money promptly, for reasons that are (to me at least) largely irrelevant, and I could not accept delayed installement payments even if I did trust you to provide them. You could be telling the truth, you could be lying - all I know is that I gave you $2300 in good faith for a product you did not provide me, and here we are, two months later, with you unable to present a solution that is acceptable.

I can only do what I can do, and continue as I have.

Barring new information or another compelling reason to comment, this will likely be my last post here, as I feel I have explained my situation and my options completely to the affected members of this forum, who fortunately appear to be faring much better at this point than I am. I do hope that the information I have been able to provide has been of some help to you all.

If anybody wishes to contact me, you may do so via email at [email protected] or on aim as jeremynthornhill

I have EVERY right to make my views on this, I dont like criminals/stealers.

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