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Gotta give props to the guys for holding it down rather nicely tonight. I won't be there next week; gotta support Mike & Koma @ Insomnia, but I know you guys will make me proud. Thanks also to Raymond, Pete, and Albert for the beers.

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Originally posted by DJ_Octane Thanks to everyone who made it out. Next week may be our last hurrah, so if you can make it out, we can make sure we go out in style.

last hurrah?

indulge me...

MONKEY DANCE!

Indulge me too. I thought Nuno was impressed yesterday... I mean, he loves this stuff! I think next week we need to DJ for his patrons, not for ourselves. If no one is dancing, maybe we should act crazy in the DJ booth and start throwing down some stuff people know. Not like stuff from 2001 (I felt like I was back in 2001 last night) but new and popular stuff. There is a lot of great new vocal trance out now and we need to pump it next week. If next week is our last week, which I doubt, we need to go out with a bang!

Calm down folks, Trance Nation @ Nuno's is not coming to an end. And as far as next week being Dave's and my last hurrah, it's undecided as of yet so put that thought on hold.

Yeah, didn't mean to alarm anyone, but the night is still happenin' as planned. I DO like playing the classic tracks, but I'm starting to feel like its not me playing in that booth. I think its very possible to play your style AND have people dance. People will dance if they're feeling the vibe, not solely on whether they recognize a song or not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I distinctly remember people dancing during my set when the turnout was relly good in the second week. I won't say that I play for myself, but what I do is try to represent myself musically. All the tracks I play represent a part of who I am and for me to play something that does not interest me is like me telling a lie. I take this very seriously and can only compromise so much. Once again, thanks to everyone for supporting and I will see you next week.

was pretty easy for me to connec the dots. ;-)

Well said dave, and ditto.

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Originally posted by DJ_Octane Yeah, didn't mean to alarm anyone, but the night is still happenin' as planned. I DO like playing the classic tracks, but I'm starting to feel like its not me playing in that booth. I think its very possible to play your style AND have people dance. People will dance if they're feeling the vibe, not solely on whether they recognize a song or not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I distinctly remember people dancing during my set when the turnout was relly good in the second week. I won't say that I play for myself, but what I do is try to represent myself musically. All the tracks I play represent a part of who I am and for me to play something that does not interest me is like me telling a lie. I take this very seriously and can only compromise so much. Once again, thanks to everyone for supporting and I will see you next week.

Word.

*Gives Dave a standing ovation*

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Originally posted by DJ Hoyt Indulge me too. I thought Nuno was impressed yesterday... I mean, he loves this stuff! I think next week we need to DJ for his patrons, not for ourselves. If no one is dancing, maybe we should act crazy in the DJ booth and start throwing down some stuff people know. Not like stuff from 2001 (I felt like I was back in 2001 last night) but new and popular stuff. There is a lot of great new vocal trance out now and we need to pump it next week. If next week is our last week, which I doubt, we need to go out with a bang!

Damn, Brittany Murphy used to be SOOOOO hot back then. Then she got all sickly.

Just my point of view..

Nuno just wants to get more people out on the dance floor. Who can blame him? He wants his club to do well and wants Trance Nation to continue onwards in all of its glory. Sometimes it takes a certain kind of music to get that vibe out on the dance floor. You don't necessarily have to play old vocal tracks. There are plenty of new vocal tracks out there. Vocal tracks are what get people out on the dance floor. Mix it up with some great instrumental tracks like the new Ferry Corsten etc. DJs should have the feeling to represent themselves musically, however they also have a job to appeal to the public and get things moving on the dance floor. You can be the best DJ out there, but it means nothing if no one is dancing to you. Now I don't know what happens, but I do remember that two weeks ago alot of people came up to see their DJ friends play. Yes, this is good and all, but you have to appeal to outside of your network. Last night there was hardly anyone dancing until some of the more vocal trance was being played. I think just get some of that new stuff coming in. I mean come on Delirium�s Silence is sooooo 2001. Its goodie, but an oldie. Rank 1 I can see, but maybe that�s because I am a die-hard Rank 1 fan (haha). Ian Van Dahl just came out with a new album and it�s freaking awesome (I just got the Can't let you Go single - US release with 10 remixes). Go abroad and find your music. You don't always have to be loyal to local record stores. Alot of the best stuff comes from the U.K. US releases generally suck. You all just have to find some initiative. Yeah you might not get want you really want to play, but what DJ has in their early careers?

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Originally posted by The_One

That movie was awesome! I know what I said was good but not Jane Austin good if that's what you're trying to say.

But sometimes you have to get off your high horse and play what everyone else wants, not what you want. Me and Nuno had a long conversation about this all last night. If no one is on the dance floor enjoying you spin and if you aren't either, it doesn't matter how good you are. I'm not saying sell out to another genre, but most of the people that come to trance night are new to trance. Playing the deep underground so-far-from-trance-it's-probably-progressive type of stuff is really not the best idea.

The person we have to thank for this opportunity is Nuno. Our focus should be making him happy and his patrons happy. We wouldn't be there without them.

Like Lovelace said, you can spin new popular stuff without selling out your beliefs system. Trust me, it's possible!

Re: Just my point of view..

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Originally posted by AdaLovelace Nuno just wants to get more people out on the dance floor. Who can blame him? He wants his club to do well and wants Trance Nation to continue onwards in all of its glory. Sometimes it takes a certain kind of music to get that vibe out on the dance floor. You don't necessarily have to play old vocal tracks. There are plenty of new vocal tracks out there. Vocal tracks are what get people out on the dance floor. Mix it up with some great instrumental tracks like the new Ferry Corsten etc. DJs should have the feeling to represent themselves musically, however they also have a job to appeal to the public and get things moving on the dance floor. You can be the best DJ out there, but it means nothing if no one is dancing to you. Now I don't know what happens, but I do remember that two weeks ago alot of people came up to see their DJ friends play. Yes, this is good and all, but you have to appeal to outside of your network. Last night there was hardly anyone dancing until some of the more vocal trance was being played. I think just get some of that new stuff coming in. I mean come on Delirium�s Silence is sooooo 2001. Its goodie, but an oldie. Rank 1 I can see, but maybe that�s because I am a die-hard Rank 1 fan (haha). Ian Van Dahl just came out with a new album and it�s freaking awesome (I just got the Can't let you Go single - US release with 10 remixes). Go abroad and find your music. You don't always have to be loyal to local record stores. Alot of the best stuff comes from the U.K. US releases generally suck. You all just have to find some initiative. Yeah you might not get want you really want to play, but what DJ has in their early careers?

Hmmm geee where do I start. First off use paragraphs it makes things a lot easier to read mmmmmmkay. Good vocal tracks are not the only things that will get people on the dance floor. If the crowd is feeling the music and the vibe then they will dance regardless of what is being played. I mean for gods sake you guys have been to other clubs right. People dance if the music is good. If you havent noticed the people that frequent Nunos are a drinking crowd not a "club" crowd. Nunos still has that stupid bar/grill mentality and until they get passed that things wont change and the people who love the music won't come.

Oh and for gods sake this is TA we all know where to buy vinyl here and most of us do buy it abroad. We are not newbies who are new to the trance scene. We know where to find quality tracks. As for Ian van Dahl dont make me laugh. It is the cheesiest most commercial trash out there that gives trance a bad name here in the states.

lol

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Hmmm geee where do I start. First off use paragraphs it makes things a lot easier to read mmmmmmkay. Good vocal tracks are not the only things that will get people on the dance floor. If the crowd is feeling the music and the vibe then they will dance regardless of what is being played. I mean for gods sake you guys have been to other clubs right. People dance if the music is good. If you havent noticed the people that frequent Nunos are a drinking crowd not a "club" crowd. Nunos still has that stupid bar/grill mentality and until they get passed that things wont change and the people who love the music won't come. Oh and for gods sake this is TA we all know where to buy vinyl here and most of us do buy it abroad. We are not newbies who are new to the trance scene. As for Ian van Dahl dont make me laugh. It is the cheesiest most commercial trash out there that gives trance a bad name here in the states.

Ok #1, who are you the grammar police? Stuff it. Of course Nuno's are till going to have patrons for the bar because they were a sports/bar establishment for years! Don't expect a quick transition. Things take time. But I understand that some here are not that, or that open minded.

Speaking of being open-minded alot of people like what you call "cheesy" and "gives trance a bad name". Ye will hit the dance floor when they hit that vibe. Alot of people are still new to the scene, mainstream helps them get into it, mix it up with a little underground. Whatever. For god's sake don't play that awful crap that DJ Sir Jackson plays, a few weeks ago he played house at trance night. If you get into stuff that is to heavy you might scare people away. Your always going to have some who will get into it, but the main idea here is to get a whole big group of people into it. Get more people coming. If someone where to a demographic study, they might find that alot more people recognize more mainstream stuff and trance that isn't underground. Nuno �s is trying to appeal to those people not just the friends of the dj, who were the majority of the people who came a few weeks ago I believe. Not just friends of the Djs.

Also, seeing other people get into it and dance can bring people onto the dance floor, not just hanging around the DJ booth... :-/
Also, I don't know that everybody who djs there is on trance addict, apparently they are. I was giving my opinion. So stuff it.

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Originally posted by AdaLovelace Ok #1, who are you the grammar police? Stuff it. Of course Nuno's are till going to have patrons for the bar because they were a sports/bar establishment for years! Don't expect a quick transition. Things take time. But I understand that some here are not that, or that open minded. Speaking of being open-minded alot of people like what you call "cheesy" and "gives trance a bad name". Ye will hit the dance floor when they hit that vibe. Alot of people are still new to the scene, mainstream helps them get into it, mix it up with a little underground. Whatever. For god's sake don't play that awful crap that DJ Sir Jackson plays, a few weeks ago he played house at trance night. If you get into stuff that is to heavy you might scare people away. Your always going to have some who will get into it, but the main idea here is to get a whole big group of people into it. Get more people coming. If someone where to a demographic study, they might find that alot more people recognize more mainstream stuff and trance that isn't underground. Nuno �s is trying to appeal to those people not just the friends of the dj, who were the majority of the people who came a few weeks ago I believe. Not just friends of the Djs. Also, seeing other people get into it and dance can bring people onto the dance floor, not just hanging around the DJ booth... :-/ Also, I don't know that everybody who djs there is on trance addict, apparently they are. I was giving my opinion. So stuff it.

I'm not even going waste time thinkin of something to reply to that load of

Ahh, Frued's theory of the id , the ego , and the superego prevails yet again.


You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio of the size of the mouth to the size of the brain.

I, too, think Ian van Dahl is quite the cheese.

I'll agree with Joel about the mentality of the people. Keep in mind that Trance Nation is relatively new. Give the transition phase some time.

I don't really see a problem with the sets. Judging from the previous tracklists, it mixes both new trance (for those up to date with trance), with some classics (for those who are newbies to trance).

It's not that some of us are against playing stuff that's popular, but it's just that we think the stuff that's "popular" sucks. If something's good and it appeals to the masses, what's stopping any DJ from playing it?

Oh snap...

Santos, I think it's time you abuse your powers as an admin and shut this thread DOWN!

inb4dalok

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Keep in mind that Trance Nation is relatively new. Give the transition phase some time.

Yeah, exactly.

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It's not that some of us are against playing stuff that's popular, but it's just that we think the stuff that's "popular" sucks.

So, does Tiesto suck? He's pretty popular...

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Originally posted by AdaLovelace So, does Tiesto suck? He's pretty popular...

If you read in-between the lines, I was talking about music.

Play what you want to play, its not like you need the venue anyway... exactly how much are you guys getting paid again? LOL don't turn into the cheese grinder.

wow, the community is gone or what? lol.

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Originally posted by DeviantxPete If you read in-between the lines, I was talking about music.

Oh you tell her Deviant! Duh! Of course Tiesto is a horriblecomparisson. He's not in MUSIC he's the greatest actor ever! I loved him in Lord of the Rings!

Wait... that's right! Tiesto is a DJ and he produces music! So Lovelace does have a point. She's saying if you don't like music that's popular, then what the hell are you doing liking Tiesto. You dirty mainstream sell out!!

lol, you all disgust me. "I don't like it... because it's like... totally popular... and like... if it's popular... it's not COOL to like it."

This isn't high school anymore. People can like what they want to like without being called cheese heads. I think we need to support ANY trance scene in austin and not get all picky about how popular something is and what sub genre is "real trance" and what sub genre is "cheese." It's this kind of attitude that kills the scene.

AND STOP PICKING ON MY GIRLFRIEND!

Okay, I'm done now

I think good points have been made by all parties. My area of concern is that all djs tend to be lumped together into one group most of the time. It's not that big of a deal really, its just that people don't see the complexity in it all. I can give you an analogy:

You have muralist and a contractor. Sure, they both use paint as a medium and most of the time they both use a buliding as a canvas. The difference in it all is that the muralist is a bit more creative and the contractor is more job-orientated. Nothing wrong with that, but how do you think a muralist would feel if someone asked him, "Hey, you're a painter? I've got a house and wanted to know if you could paint it." Its not really what the muralist does in his job description. No harm, no foul.

I am a Trance DJ, not a club DJ.

As I have said before, I will always appreciate what Nuno has done for me. That has never been in question. I call him "Uncle Nuno" and I mean it. He honestly does remind me of family because of the way he runs his club. My original point is that the club seems to be going one way and if I am not what the club is looking for, how can I make Nuno happy or myself for that matter? I could have been unprofessional and quit, but Nuno does not deserve that. I WILL however try to play to the new style and see how it makes me feel. If it doesn't work, I will always remember the good times and be thankful for the opportunity. That's how any relationship should work.

Didn't mean to start drama, but its how I feel. To all parties, just keep in mind the effort that I take to get there every friday on time as well as the effort Nuno takes. Why shouldn't we both be happy? No matter what happens, I know everyone will be in good hands.

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Originally posted by DJ Hoyt Oh you tell her Deviant! Duh! Of course Tiesto is a horriblecomparisson. He's not in MUSIC he's the greatest actor ever! I loved him in Lord of the Rings! Wait... that's right! Tiesto is a DJ and he produces music! So Lovelace does have a point. She's saying if you don't like music that's popular, then what the hell are you doing liking Tiesto. You dirty mainstream sell out!! lol, you all disgust me. "I don't like it... because it's like... totally popular... and like... if it's popular... it's not COOL to like it."

For the last time its not that we dont like it cause its popular its because 95% of the time popular music is really really cheesy. By popular I mean stuff they play on the radio (IE Ian van Dahl). If you dont believe me how bad it is mention Ian van Dahl in the music discussion section of the TA forums and you will get flamed BAD.

Pete was trying to say that its not that we dont like it cause its popular we don't like because its horrible. but for some reason you guys think we hate everything that is popular.

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Originally posted by DeviantxPete It's not that some of us are against playing stuff that's popular, but it's just that we think the stuff that's "popular" sucks. If something's good and it appeals to the masses, what's stopping any DJ from playing it?

Keep in mind stuff = music

and then your g'f replied with this:

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Originally posted by AdaLovelace So, does Tiesto suck? He's pretty popular...

Uh when did we start talking about popular DJs.

OH and NEWSFLASH: WE KNOW TIESTO PRODUCES. This is TA for godsake. You guys need to think about what someone else posted before you reply.

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