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Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-03-2004 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by disko-kandi



Peacekeeping Operations over the Years and Canada's Contribution:
1947-2002
~

http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/peacek...missions-en.asp




I didnt know Zero was equivalent to thousands!


Posted by limin_li on Aug-03-2004 08:33:

Please do not believe anything that this adminstration had or has to say. W Bush does not want the democrate to have great election year so he and his adminstration warning everyone that terrorist is going to attack. Believe me, terrorist are smarter than that. If they'll attack, most likely it is after the election.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-03-2004 11:59:

quote:
Originally posted by b4k-oz
Just wondering, do you even realize that Canada is half a trillion dollar in debt compared to the 2.5 trillion USA debt? Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and show me who's more corrupt?


http://www.ndir.com/SI/education/debt.shtml


According to this... ALL debt in the whole country adds up to 750 Billion. So id say that in the federal dept that you are off that trillion figure by about half a trillion.


Posted by Diabl0 on Aug-03-2004 13:16:

quote:
Peacekeeping Operations over the Years and Canada's Contribution:
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/peacek...missions-en.asp


DigiNut sure got owned there!


Posted by b4k-oz on Aug-04-2004 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
http://www.ndir.com/SI/education/debt.shtml


According to this... ALL debt in the whole country adds up to 750 Billion. So id say that in the federal dept that you are off that trillion figure by about half a trillion.



Oops, I stand corrected. I am off. I was taking figures from an analysis report and I'm sure I read it wrong. They keep changing the damn charts and data logs on me every 3 months. Sorry.

Jayx1, even though I made the mistake here, I know I posted the correct figure at another thread a while back, and I know you participated in that thread.
So, what was your purpose of correcting me.....were you trying to discredit me for the sake of digiNut or was it for another motive? I'm curious to know why or if you'll even reply?


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-04-2004 05:19:

No it was because i knew that the figure for the national debt was around half a trillion because i happen to know a few things about the politics and finances of this country. Dont go having a persecution complex on us now...


Posted by b4k-oz on Aug-04-2004 13:14:

Behold, my arse.

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Dont go having a persecution complex on us now...


A Persecution Complex.....LOL
them's fightin words!

















Nah...
No complex here
I suppose we've all lost face one time or another
Though you could of PM'd me and I would have corrected while giving you acknowledgement

Neways, I can't speak for others, but I'm ok to be corrected if I'm wrong. Especially since none of us are perfect, right Jaxy1?

....besides, I'm more into history & Current Law....Memorizing Economic numbers is not my bag....or should I say trickle down economics hehehehe

Oh well....bring it on digiNut......


Posted by High on PSI on Aug-04-2004 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut Be careful of the left media that will spin any story to make a Republican look bad. They did the same thing with Reagan. Take a look at Clinton's track record though and you'll see that he was no saint either, and yet he hardly came under any scrutiny by the media. And since the American media didn't pay much attention to him, the Canadian media didn't have any juicy stories to rip off.


Clinton was a wayyy better president. Just look at the situation in the middle east. WHen Clinton was in office he was working so hard to get some sort of resolution, and was doin well. Once Bush came in, it all went to shit. And this is where are this terrorism is stemming from.

Also, Clinton never came under any scrutiny by the media? Ever hear of Monica lewinsky? LOL


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-05-2004 17:07:

digitnut..where are you to rebutt our arguments?? youre usually right there to respond?

Did Silke intimidate you with her findings?


Posted by High on PSI on Aug-05-2004 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
The point im trying to make here is that the current administration (being the same one as the reaganite inspired administration during Bush Sr.'s presidency) are known to fully advocate this type of deception and then retract it by proclaiming they were "misinformed"

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!

These people are LIARS and that has been proven more than once...umm where are those WMD that Bush said there was "UNDENIABLE PROOF" they existed in Iraq?? Oh yes... i forgot....the administration was "misinformed" as Orielly idiotically spews out every night on the Fox network.


Exactly... where exactly were these "weapons of mass destruction" Bush was always talking about? all the biological warefare... they stated that they had all the evidence, but obviously they had nothing, because they found nothing.

Bunch of liars in the whole admin... like someone else said, Bush is either a con artist, or a dumb fuck... in any case, he should be given the boot for starting a war for no reason, which is exactly what he did.


Posted by MarkT on Aug-05-2004 18:40:

^^^ no no...it's just that they can't tell us what the evidence is or from where they got it...you know, for security reasons...so we should just *trust* them.









yeah, right


Posted by cap on Aug-05-2004 18:44:

I'd have to agree with Diginut on this one.

Canadians are quick to criticize America and their evil deeds to their homelands from Canada. Hence, since they don't experience anything first hand, the majority of the people in this country are basing their opinions from the media.

People whine about America "sticking their nose in other people's business" but when a country is in need, the first country they seek for monetary and military assistance is the USA.


I'm not saying the USA doesn't have a bad track record, and I'm definitely not saying that Bush is a saint, but everyone seems to base their opinion of America on a few bad leaders. The media emphasizes the evil doings of a few political figures - so everyone, in the safety net that is Canada - establishes a negative view of America. Well, political figures of the USA are about .00000001% of the population. America has it's good aspects and has helped the world in many ways.

Prime example; the very reason we are able to communicate through this forum is directly due to America's invention of Windows, the internet, etc.


Posted by starsearcher on Aug-05-2004 18:48:

Hmmm yeah I agree with him ^^^^ Except that last line about windows and the Internet and etc...


Posted by timmyboy on Aug-05-2004 18:50:

quote:

Canadians are quick to criticize America and their evil deeds to their homelands from Canada. Hence, since they don't experience anything first hand, the majority of the people in this country are basing their opinions from the media.


people base their opinions on media everywhere... you think the Americans dont with their mostly right-wing tv stations and papers... also the point is not that Canadians or the resot fo the world criticize the States... it is that Bush claims a lot of things that he doesnt back up with facts

quote:

People whine about America "sticking their nose in other people's business" but when a country is in need, the first country they seek for monetary and military assistance is the USA.


theres a difference between being asked and imposing its own will on others... the US has the right to refuse giving help if they want to... but you cant refuse being taken over by the US

quote:

Prime example; the very reason we are able to communicate through this forum is directly due to America's invention of Windows, the internet, etc.


seriously? thats an argument for what? almost any country has invented something


Posted by cap on Aug-05-2004 18:54:

quote:

seriously? thats an argument for what? almost any country has invented something


My point is that of irony! "America" has an internationally reknown negative connotation for "bad", "evil", "corrupt" etc. When really, the majority of us seem to forget that we are dependant and fully utilize American technology everyday.

And haha, yes, a lot of countries have inventions, I'll admit. However, few effect, and better yet, make my quality of life better as America's do.


Posted by timmyboy on Aug-05-2004 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by cap
My point is that of irony! "America" has an internationally reknown negative connotation for "bad", "evil", "corrupt" etc. When really, the majority of us seem to forget that we are dependant and fully utilize American technology everyday.


no ones critisizing the states for their technology just how they unilateraly treat other nations.. i dont think theres much fo other beef that the world has with them


Posted by cap on Aug-05-2004 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by timmyboy

the US has the right to refuse giving help if they want to...





HA! you are joking right? If America backs out of aid, they are scorned.


Posted by cap on Aug-05-2004 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by timmyboy
no ones critisizing the states for their technology just how they unilateraly treat other nations.. i dont think theres much fo other beef that the world has with them


Yes, but what I'm saying is that the majority people who hate America, hate ALL of america. They hate the people from America, what it stands for, everything related to it basically. But yet, ironically, they boot up their computer to a Windows operating system.

What I'm saying is people loathe America without realizing the benefits of the country as well.


Posted by timmyboy on Aug-05-2004 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by cap
HA! you are joking right? If America backs out of aid, they are scorned.


sure they can they can tell that its a job for the UN... which it is

that would be just following international procedures


Posted by drgoodvibe on Aug-05-2004 19:02:

one wonders; in a perfect world, the dominating powers set examples of idiealism and freedom. The most powerful nations in the world should be leading by example. How can you point fingers at other regimes when there is a great deal of wrongs to right in your own super powerful country.


Posted by timmyboy on Aug-05-2004 19:03:

quote:
Originally posted by cap
Yes, but what I'm saying is that the majority people who hate America, hate ALL of america. They hate the people from America, what it stands for, everything related to it basically. But yet, ironically, they boot up their computer to a Windows operating system.

What I'm saying is people loathe America without realizing the benefits of the country as well.


sure there are some ppl like that but there are ppl like that everywhere... for example - freedom fries


Posted by starsearcher on Aug-05-2004 19:04:

Well the fact that they created a lot of their own problems for themselves that now came back and bit them in the ass is absolutely correct...however...as Canadians we are COMPLETELY dependent on the US both financially and for defence purposes...I don't think it's correct and appropriate for Canadians (as we pride ourselves for being nice and accepting and etc...) to constantly laugh and make fun of the US. No offence but the reason why Canada has no military IS because of the US, and if we are at least "pretending" to be friends then we should at least "pretend" to act like ones...They had a horrible tragedy, in which Canadians lost their lives as well, and yet we keep ignoring that for some reason.


Posted by cap on Aug-05-2004 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
Well the fact that they created a lot of their own problems for themselves that now came back and bit them in the ass is absolutely correct...however...as Canadians we are COMPLETELY dependent on the US both financially and for defence purposes...I don't think it's correct and appropriate for Canadians (as we pride ourselves for being nice and accepting and etc...) to constantly laugh and make fun of the US. No offence but the reason why Canada has no military IS because of the US.


As my management prof said, "when America coughs, Canada catches a cold."

In addition to my earlier arguments:

When you ask someone "what do you think of America?" you will usually get a response like " I hate it!"
The point I'm trying to make is that people should be responding " I don't like some of America's clandestine operations, and some of their political figures seem corrupt, but the country has its good aspects as well"
Feed the positive, starve the negative.


Posted by drgoodvibe on Aug-05-2004 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
Well the fact that they created a lot of their own problems for themselves that now came back and bit them in the ass is absolutely correct...however...as Canadians we are COMPLETELY dependent on the US both financially and for defence purposes...I don't think it's correct and appropriate for Canadians (as we pride ourselves for being nice and accepting and etc...) to constantly laugh and make fun of the US. No offence but the reason why Canada has no military IS because of the US.


the reason we have no military is becuase we choose not to. We have a socialistic economy that has a 26B/yr healthcare system. We can spend some of that on the military, but why should we since we have NORAD, and the U.S is more then willing to spend billions on military?

Would you rather have our not so shabby healthcare system, or HUGE military spending?


Posted by timmyboy on Aug-05-2004 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
Well the fact that they created a lot of their own problems for themselves that now came back and bit them in the ass is absolutely correct...however...as Canadians we are COMPLETELY dependent on the US both financially and for defence purposes...I don't think it's correct and appropriate for Canadians (as we pride ourselves for being nice and accepting and etc...) to constantly laugh and make fun of the US. No offence but the reason why Canada has no military IS because of the US, and if we are at least "pretending" to be friends then we should at least "pretend" to act like ones...They had a horrible tragedy, in which Canadians lost their lives as well, and yet we keep ignoring that for some reason.


funny i was just thinking about who can hypothetically attack Canada... and the only one with even a remote possibility might be the US lol


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