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Re: Canada - irrelevant and weak???
Tw1tch is right on.
I'll go a step further. This isn't about us being too weak to do anything...because I'd argue that there isn't anything anyone really could do.
Under the guise of suggesting that we're naive about our country's "power", this is nothing more than a Conservative attack on Liberals by suggesting that if we were "nicer" to the U.S., and if we spent more on our military, then this wouldn't be happening.
I say that we should be far more outraged at Karzemi's death then our government lack of success in somehow forcing Iran to come clean. Personally, I'm more upset that such an environment exists in Iran, not that they contemptuously refuse to formally admit it.
In any case, how would the U.S. itself fare in this situation? So a single guard might be convicted? That's hardly a given too. What if Iran snubbed the U.S. too? Would Iran be invaded over the death of a single citizen? Not a chance. So why would they be inclined to act any differently based upon military might?
listen, i've been to europe 11, YES 11 times in my life,
and TRUST me, canada is not irrelevant.
maybe its not very powerful, and maybe some think we live
in igloos and still hunt seals and whales, but the world
generally not only loves canada and canadians,
but values their high standard of morals and principals.
ppl outside canada instantly equate canada with
prosperity, peace, and most of all, RESPECT.
in all my travels, i've never had a problem with anybody
who was aware of the fact that i was canadian.
for that matter, they wanted to help me more just for the
fact that i AM/WAS canadian.....
our power and influence in the world is whats irrelevant,
our thinking and way of life is envied by most
Actually when I was in Amsterdam and was telling people I'm from Canada and from Toronto...quite a few of them went..."OOOHHH BLUE JAYS...BASE-BALL"....I was like....WTF??!?
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That's just one of many quick Identifiers...so what? When most people here think of Amsterdam they only think of Weed and Hookers...but certainly there is more to that historic city than that.
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| Originally posted by Form&Funktion ^^^^^^^^ That's just one of many quick Identifiers...so what? When most people here think of Amsterdam they only think of Weed and Hookers...but certainly there is more to that historic city than that. |
THat's true.........people sometimes make the oddest connections to different places 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...Story/National/
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| Originally posted by ShadoWolf http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...Story/National/ |
Jason Bourne sure had one 
...why? Cause you can get anywhere and nobody suspects you of anything...
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| Originally posted by starsearcher No i meant it in a good way...although I don't understand out of all things that Toronto has...WHY do they think of baseball? |
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| Originally posted by malek what else would he connect Toronto with ?? the CN tower ? |
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| Originally posted by starsearcher I think every spy in the world has a Canadian passport Jason Bourne sure had one ...why? Cause you can get anywhere and nobody suspects you of anything... |
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| Originally posted by tw1tch Ah yes, but they want to bring in Biometric passports. They're doing a test on diplomats I believe this year or beginning of next year, with a roll out to the general public afterwards. This is one area they do need to tighten, I like the fact that our passport is accepted all over the place, but it won't remain that way if it's not secured. |
And while i'm at it the KGB as well
i know how you feel, sweden is in the same position. but i'm rather a respected country that think first act later than some country who act first think later (if even that)...
what swedes generally "knows" about canada:
It is cold
they play hockey
seems nicer than the US, more like europe.
=)
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew i know how you feel, sweden is in the same position. but i'm rather a respected country that think first act later than some country who act first think later (if even that)... what swedes generally "knows" about canada: It is cold they play hockey seems nicer than the US, more like europe. =) |
nice pics
canada goose jackets are also quite popular in sweden, forgot about that 
I totally agree with that article
theres no denying it, and anyone who does is a naive and is not aware about anything going on in the world.
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| Originally posted by Carney i think we are one of the few countries in the world that can acually support our selfs and many other countries with our resources. So we do have a lot to offer..... the only problem is that we live next to the shitty states.... and they seem to get all the attention, mostly negative though now. |
actually it was Denmark:
Denmark Invades Canada
Published on 03/30/04 at 21:38:30 GMT by Craig Pichach
In The News
Adrian Humphreys
National Post
Tuesday, March 30, 2004
Canada's top remaining diplomat in Denmark was called before the
Royal Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs yesterday to discuss the
disputed territory of Hans Island, a barren rock in the high Arctic.
Brian Herman, charge d'affaires of Canada's diplomatic mission in
Copenhagen, was asked by officials about his country's intentions in
the spat, recently inflamed by Danish sailors occupying the island
during regular Arctic patrols.
Mr. Herman's response was that "it is not Canada's intention to stir
up a tempest in a teapot," said Reynald Doiron, spokesman for
Canada's Department of Foreign Affairs. "We want to keep an open
mind on this and yes, we would be ready to resume discussions on the
issue but there has been no definite agenda set," he said.
Peter Taksoe-Jensen, head of international public law with the
Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said the issue is not in danger
of becoming an international incident. "The solution of the dispute
over Hans Island is not going to be a military solution in the sense
that Denmark is going to post military on the island or anything of
that kind," Mr. Taksoe-Jensen said from Copenhagen.
"It is going to be a negotiated solution where Canada and Denmark
sit together at the table at some stage when we come to this issue
and find a solution."
Although he played down the presence of a Danish warship -- which
has made repeated visits to the island with its sailors occupying
the island and even unfurling the red and white flag of Denmark over
it -- Mr. Taksoe-Jensen could not rule out further visits.
"Since we think of it as part of Danish territory, we feel officials
have that right. It is only natural that Danish officials go there
from time to time."
He said Copenhagen would take issue if Canada also landed soldiers
on the island.
Canada has not had an ambassador in Denmark since Alfonso Gagliano
was recalled by Paul Martin in the wake of the advertising scandal
involving Mr. Gagliano's former government ministry.
The National Post has highlighted the dispute between Canada and
Denmark over the tiny, desolate, ice-bound island as one of four
international boundary disputes prompting concerns over the nation's
ability to maintain sovereignty of its vast northern region.
The issue was also raised in Parliament, with Stockwell Day, the
Conservative party's foreign affairs critic, calling on the
government to fill Mr. Gagliano's post and for the restoration of
military funding to help retain Arctic sovereignty.
"The nation of Denmark has laid claim to Canadian territory. Its
military, from its warship, hoisted its flag on our Arctic territory
without permission, without warning, and without any fear of being
stopped," Mr. Day said on Friday.
"The government's utter disarray is underlined by the fact that the
scandal has led to the recall of our ambassador to Denmark, the very
nation that is challenging our sovereignty," Mr. Day said.
Aileen Carroll, Minister for International Co-operation, said Canada
will continue to defend its interests.
"Hans Island constitutes part of the national territory of Canada.
No assertion by the Danish ambassador or other Danish officials
detracts from the absolute sovereignty that Canada enjoys over Hans
Island," she said, repeating the official statement of Foreign
Affairs.
Mr. Day said the issue highlights the military's weakness.
"This embarrassing situation shows that the Prime Minister was wrong
when he was underfunding our national defence while he was finance
minister ... and he is wrong today in leaving Canada exposed and
embarrassed," he said in Parliament.
David Pratt, the Minister of National Defence, defended the
government's record.
"A significant amount of money has been put into the navy over the
last number of years. Since this government took over, significant
investments have been made in the armed forces overall.... We are
continuing to rebuild the Canadian Forces," he said.
� National Post 2004
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