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its not nice laughing on other's problems

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Originally posted by FederalBI its not nice laughing on other's problems

its not nice invading nations for their resources either

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Originally posted by Cyrus King its not nice invading nations for their resources either

don't you understand sadam husain slaughtered the iraqis?!
oops forgot who am i talking to, you guys don't give a fuck about lifes.

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Originally posted by FederalBI don't you understand sadam husain slaughtered the iraqis?! oops forgot who am i talking to, you guys don't give a fuck about lifes.

Dont you understand that the US has slaughtered IRaqi's... this is the second ...no .... third time!

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Originally posted by FederalBI don't you understand sadam husain slaughtered the iraqis?! oops forgot who am i talking to, you guys don't give a fuck about lifes.

no, he's just f**king stupid. don't waste your time with him.

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/19472/

America is being led by evil. These people should be sodomized at Abu Gharib.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/19472/ America is being led by evil. These people should be sodomized at Abu Gharib.

Apparently evil is in the eye of the beholder. If the worst thing that can be said of this war is some one-off, prison "abuse" scandal, I'm not going to lose much sleep at night.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/19472/ America is being led by evil. These people should be sodomized at Abu Gharib.

i can just tell you if the US would go out of iraq and other leader jstu as saddam would take crown you would complain that US came out of iraq.

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Originally posted by FederalBI i can just tell you if the US would go out of iraq and other leader jstu as saddam would take crown you would complain that US came out of iraq.

Its so funny how the justification of this war has gone to the point of trying to rid the memory WMD to justifying it becuase Saddam is gone...well.. well guess what... saddam was removed by a man that is equally crazy. The next nation they should attack is ISRAEL and rid Sharon!

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Originally posted by FederalBI i can just tell you if the US would go out of iraq and other leader jstu as saddam would take crown you would complain that US came out of iraq.

Well, the only answer to that is.. Iraq is not made for Democracy.. Is one of those society's that only works with strong order by a strong leader.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Its so funny how the justification of this war has gone to the point of trying to rid the memory WMD to justifying it becuase Saddam is gone...well.. well guess what... saddam was removed by a man that is equally crazy. The next nation they should attack is ISRAEL and rid Sharon!

i just feel sorry for you and all you friends who are gettei'n brain watched over and over by arabian tv and stuff like that. for now sharon is doing much more for the peace process then arafat and tahts for sure, arafat who barely can open his mouth suppose to lead a nation.

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Originally posted by FederalBI i just feel sorry for you and all you friends who are gettei'n brain watched over and over by arabian tv and stuff like that. for now sharon is doing much more for the peace process then arafat and tahts for sure, arafat who barely can open his mouth suppose to lead a nation.

Nobody is more brainwashed than an Israeli zionist... ive learned this from experience.

yep experience you only experience i guess is over the internet , your sitting in canada and talking about stuff you never saw for real.

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Originally posted by FederalBI yep experience you only experience i guess is over the internet , your sitting in canada and talking about stuff you never saw for real.

In case you didnt know... Toronto has a very very large ISraeli/Jew population. Toronto, New York City, Los ANgeles and Miami are the largest Jew communities in North America.

Its not only the computer...trust me.

How the hell is that connected that you have big population of jews / arabs near you. don't you understand you write stuff that you read on teh internet or see over the tv. you never been over here you don't know the real situation so don't bs about experience.

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Originally posted by FederalBI How the hell is that connected that you have big population of jews / arabs near you. don't you understand you write stuff that you read on teh internet or see over the tv. you never been over here you don't know the real situation so don't bs about experience.

You have no clue who the fuck I am... so of my best friends are Jewish.

I still hold my beleifs and we always have arguments.

I just dont watch TV or read the internet..

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Originally posted by FederalBI How the hell is that connected that you have big population of jews / arabs near you. don't you understand you write stuff that you read on teh internet or see over the tv. you never been over here you don't know the real situation so don't bs about experience.

very true. in fact even if you talk to palestinian or israeli people who are not there they can't accurately depict what is happening. Its just like us here saying that it was good or bad to go into Iraq when none of us have been there. If there were only some iraqis on this board who live there then we might get a better idea of the true situation.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil very true. in fact even if you talk to palestinian or israeli people who are not there they can't accurately depict what is happening. Its just like us here saying that it was good or bad to go into Iraq when none of us have been there. If there were only some iraqis on this board who live there then we might get a better idea of the true situation.

I know people that have lived, and are living there in both the palestinian and israeli sectors.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil If there were only some iraqis on this board who live there then we might get a better idea of the true situation.

Maybe not, but there are apparently quite a number of Iraqi Blogs surfacing on the Internet. Here's One

I guess there aren't too many Iraqi TA's....yet.

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Originally posted by LiquidX Well, the only answer to that is.. Iraq is not made for Democracy.. Is one of those society's that only works with strong order by a strong leader.

but isn't US style democracy/capitalism the only system that work all over the world?

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Nobody is more brainwashed than an Israeli zionist... ive learned this from experience.

Nobody?

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com...0cda539f3e2b924

Everyone do me a favor and watch that for at least 2 minutes. It'll go on for a while longer, but you'll get the picture pretty quickly.

By any reasonable definition of "brainwash", there is no way you can win this argument. Nations with free presses and tightly controlled tyrannies are incomparable in terms of the influence exerted over the population, and the extent to which the populace will widely hold beliefs that are demonstratably false.

Then again, so much of the modern Palestinian national cause rests on demonstratably false premises (gross misinterpretations of international law, fabrication of "atrocities" such as jenin, etc) that I doubt this is an issue for you.

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Well, the only answer to that is.. Iraq is not made for Democracy.. Is one of those society's that only works with strong order by a strong leader.

Japan and the far east weren't "made" for democracy but it seems to be working out, no? Indeed Iraq has been ruled by a strongman for generations; accordingly, I would imagine it would take more than 14 months for the society to democratize. But its gotta start sometime.

More Iraqi blogs to add to the one shakka listed:
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
http://messopotamian.blogspot.com/

A sentiment like yours might be considered hate/discriminatory speech if it were said by the wrong person, but hey, there's no double standard.

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Originally posted by tupsox I would imagine it would take more than 14 months for the society to democratize. But its gotta start sometime.

if you waited for some time im sure USA would work as a one party/dictatorship state too....

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Originally posted by tupsox Nobody? http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com...0cda539f3e2b924 Everyone do me a favor and watch that for at least 2 minutes. It'll go on for a while longer, but you'll get the picture pretty quickly. By any reasonable definition of "brainwash", there is no way you can win this argument. Nations with free presses and tightly controlled tyrannies are incomparable in terms of the influence exerted over the population, and the extent to which the populace will widely hold beliefs that are demonstratably false. Then again, so much of the modern Palestinian national cause rests on demonstratably false premises (gross misinterpretations of international law, fabrication of "atrocities" such as jenin, etc) that I doubt this is an issue for you.

It is extremely sad and that these images exist....and although it does occur quite often in palestinian society to condemn the state of Israel, it comes to no surprise that these feelings of anymosity are perpetuated.

However i beleive they have a right to express their anger and overall feeling of resistence to this occupation. Excluding the involvement of children holding guns, I actually respect them for expressing their anger and want of resistence of this brutal occupation.

Israel has cultured this phenomena of hate seeking death oriented mentality and has fueled desperation with every oppressive action they think is a solution to the "arab problem". They have placed these people in a situation that has fostered these thoughts. If the palestinians were COLLECTIVELY treated as humans and not dogs, they wouldnt COLLECTIVELY hate.

On a side note, that very slide show has an agenda. I can post slideshows here depeicting Israeli atrocities and make it look as though they are inherently evil as a people. Do you ever think why these people are brainwashing their youth to hate ISrael? Do youthink they are born screaming "death to jews"?

The site you posted is a joke to say the least.

Topicsin the web blog imply that arabs/pals are evil....for fucks sake they have a "palestinian car swarming" slideshow. Im sure that was added to make them look like "civil" people



Aside from everything, i think its also interesting to note that the majority of the voters of the polls on this site are idiots. Why??? This results below explain

IDIOTS

Hehe I love this guy:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/07/p...ign/07bush.html

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snip "So the colleges should get rid of legacy?" Mr. Martin asked Mr. Bush at a question-and-answer session that followed the president's address to the convention. "Well, I think so," said Mr. Bush, who is a son, grandson and also a father of Yale graduates. "Yeah. I think it ought to be based on merit." snip Mr. Bush added: "This is a dangerous time. I wish it wasn't this way. I wish I wasn't the war president. Who in the heck wants to be a war president? I don't..." snip At one point, some of Mr. Bush's listeners began laughing when the president became tangled up in response to a question about the meaning of tribal sovereignty in the 21st century, and how Americans should resolve conflicts between tribes and the federal and state governments. "Tribal sovereignty means that it's sovereign," Mr. Bush replied. "You're a - you've been given sovereignty and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities."

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