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Posted by Frase on Aug-08-2004 23:31:
just a question, are you religious?
Posted by special kiewon on Aug-08-2004 23:32:
Yeah devil worship all the way.
No
Posted by Frase on Aug-09-2004 00:00:
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Originally posted by special kiewon
Yeah devil worship all the way.
No |
thought as much
Posted by special kiewon on Aug-09-2004 00:09:
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Originally posted by Frase
thought as much |
So why does it matter? Biggotry is biggoty is biggotry. And whats more the things that you said were sexist which in this country is illegal.
Posted by decode on Aug-09-2004 00:20:
Ste close this thread before someone ends up getting glassed 
Posted by Frase on Aug-09-2004 00:28:
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Originally posted by special kiewon
So why does it matter? Biggotry is biggoty is biggotry. And whats more the things that you said were sexist which in this country is illegal. |
Christ if thats illegal then i think a hell of a lot of comedians are criminals then
Arrest me then officer if you feel the need.
i said i dont like Transexuals. Christ, ive seen people brush over the fact about bloody muslim priests preaching hatred about this country, but as soon as you mention transexuals everyone jumps up to defend them.
If you want a real bigot mate, look at religion.
Posted by special kiewon on Aug-09-2004 00:39:
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Originally posted by Frase
Christ if thats illegal then i think a hell of a lot of comedians are criminals then
Arrest me then officer if you feel the need.
i said i dont like Transexuals. Christ, ive seen people brush over the fact about bloody muslim priests preaching hatred about this country, but as soon as you mention transexuals everyone jumps up to defend them.
If you want a real bigot mate, look at religion. |
You were agreeing that she shouldnt win because she is a transexual. I didnt like her she annoyed the fuck out of me and if thats why you ae unhappy about her winning thats fine. However you cant say she shouldnt win because she is a transexual. Just the same as if she was black or female. Yeah again I dont support bigoty where ever it comes from even priests.
And comedians often tread a very carful line publically. They often pick on a minority group rather than an individual which in some ways I dont have a problem with.
Also you said you dont like transexuals. Well I feel you are unequiped to make that statement. If you had met all transexuals and found out you didnt like them then ok but you cant make judgements like that. Its very narrowminded.
Posted by Frase on Aug-09-2004 00:46:
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Originally posted by special kiewon
Also you said you dont like transexuals. Well I feel you are unequiped to make that statement. If you had met all transexuals and found out you didnt like them then ok but you cant make judgements like that. Its very narrowminded. |
Ok then, say you don't like Rapists or Paedophiles. You haven't met all of them, you don't particulary want to (i hope not). So do you still call that narrow minded? i.e. Cos of what they are
Posted by special kiewon on Aug-09-2004 01:14:
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Originally posted by Frase
Ok then, say you don't like Rapists or Paedophiles. You haven't met all of them, you don't particulary want to (i hope not). So do you still call that narrow minded? i.e. Cos of what they are |
I think its abit different. As you choose to be a peadophile and I think that the two (ie nice people and peodophiles) are mutually exclusive. However that said I do belive its possible to change and once they have served thier debt to socioty you have to accept that. I wouldnt say I dont like all of them as I said I dont know em all. I dont like the things they have done and in such an extreme case would probably play a role in my opinion of them. However if there was a rapist who made a mistake changed went out and became a charity worker for the rest of thier live doing nothing but good deeds till the end of thier time who am I to say they are a bad guy. So no I wouldnt say it.
And as it happens I used to do some work for a prison (cattering mainly) and I have visited them. If you met these people while you wouldnt think they were nice people you would see that everyone is different.
Posted by Frase on Aug-09-2004 01:26:
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Originally posted by special kiewon
I think its abit different. As you choose to be a peadophile and I think that the two (ie nice people and peodophiles) are mutually exclusive. However that said I do belive its possible to change and once they have served thier debt to socioty you have to accept that. I wouldnt say I dont like all of them as I said I dont know em all. I dont like the things they have done and in such an extreme case would probably play a role in my opinion of them. However if there was a rapist who made a mistake changed went out and became a charity worker for the rest of thier live doing nothing but good deeds till the end of thier time who am I to say they are a bad guy. So no I wouldnt say it.
And as it happens I used to do some work for a prison (cattering mainly) and I have visited them. If you met these people while you wouldnt think they were nice people you would see that everyone is different. |
I'm sure.
I'm just highlighting your point of saying im narrow minded, far from it, i just choose not to associate with them.
I dispise racists, but im sure half of the BNP are nice people.
Needless to say judging books by their covers is a safe method.
Posted by Fundamental on Aug-09-2004 01:32:
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I dispise racists, but im sure half of the BNP are nice people.
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Posted by special kiewon on Aug-09-2004 08:17:
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I'm sure.
I'm just highlighting your point of saying im narrow minded, far from it, i just choose not to associate with them.
I dispise racists, but im sure half of the BNP are nice people.
Needless to say judging books by their covers is a safe method. |
There is choosing not to assosiate with them and then there is making outrageos claims about what they should and shouldnt be aloud to do. Ie transexuals should not be aloud to win BB.
If you can still think the BNP have a broad range of individuals and they all arnt racist ****s how can you not think that a genger group transexuals are the same?
And yes we have to make assumtions about people and naturally we all make instant snap decisions. However you cant think that those assumptions about the way people look ect define them.
I would be willing to bet if you didnt know nadia was a transexual you wouldnt have noticed or had a problem with her. (YOu would have probably inulted her by calling her a man but only ever in jest not because you actually thjought she was)
Posted by Frase on Aug-09-2004 08:27:
But if you read over my initial point, there is absolutely no reference to the face that a 'transexual isnt allowed to win big brother'
I'm just commenting on the state of affairs, which im more than entitled to.
Posted by Misty Kitty on Aug-09-2004 08:51:
I think the country is falling to piece because people are worrying far too much about a dumb TV programme and the arguments that ensue afterwards. 
n.b. love ya frase you make me giggle 
Posted by special kiewon on Aug-09-2004 09:07:
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Originally posted by Frase
But if you read over my initial point, there is absolutely no reference to the face that a 'transexual isnt allowed to win big brother'
I'm just commenting on the state of affairs, which im more than entitled to. |
Your initial post said that it should require a lot more than a tv programme for transexuals to be accepted. When in fact it should require a lot less. There should be no requirement for transexuals to be accepted its thier life to live as they want.
My post wasnt really directed at you but this thread suggeests and started off by saying she shouldnt win because she is a transexual which is wrong.
Posted by Frase on Aug-09-2004 09:41:
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Originally posted by Misty Kitty
n.b. love ya frase you make me giggle |
Feel the love in the room sister!
Posted by tu_face on Aug-09-2004 10:08:
this is a daft thread.
frase: take a step back and look at your ways. john was right, what you were saying is biggotry, and is not allowed.
please grow a brain.
Posted by special kiewon on Aug-09-2004 10:27:
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Originally posted by tu_face
this is a daft thread.
frase: take a step back and look at your ways. john was right, what you were saying is biggotry, and is not allowed.
please grow a brain. |
Muggot warrior has spoken.
Posted by tu_face on Aug-09-2004 10:31:
don't give me no muggOts, one day john you will pay for your defamation of muggets 
Posted by special kiewon on Aug-09-2004 10:39:
Is there a muggots hit squad?
A secret underground socioty of muggot assasins that do the dirty work. All for muggots and muggots for all.
Posted by decode on Aug-09-2004 11:20:
ninja muggets
Posted by special kiewon on Aug-09-2004 11:40:
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Originally posted by decode
ninja muggets |
Posted by dukes on Aug-09-2004 13:01:
i started a fight! i feel so proud 
Posted by Ste on Aug-09-2004 17:05:
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Originally posted by decode
Ste close this thread before someone ends up getting glassed |
nah, its staying open to encourage healthy debate
Posted by Coup on Aug-09-2004 17:45:
ill add another vote in support to special kiewon.
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