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Originally posted by Ian^ please 'evolve' into a non-wanker-type-person first then

I agree. I think the "too lazy" is just him not being able to find anything.

I still think he needs to make the decision for himself, instead of letting people who he's never met make the decisions for him.

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Originally posted by her throat cut i am just giving an example of how things evolve. you dont think vinyl will stick forever now do you??

Well, you don't think CDs will be sticking around forever now do you? In about 50 years there is supposed to be almost no oil left to make all these CD's and vinyls from. Time to move on to "liquid music" :P

Not to mention the fact that your post simply sucks. You give no point at all that is valid. Just because every DJ moves on with technology doesn't mean we're old-fashioned for using vinyl. They will all still use vinyl; for as long as it exists. And there is nothing smoother than mixing with vinyl, where your hand controls the music, and not your computer or your BPM counter.

If we weren't progressive and evolving we'd all be listening to 50's music or dress like the Beatles. No sir, I'm happy that I am a progressive person. I like this hi-tech clothing and my designer Apple Computer and everything that involves technology, tyvm.

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Originally posted by her throat cut not only CDs. laptops!!! heloooooo!!! welcome to 21st Century!

u mix on a computer u think ur in the future erm.. no get of the computer and try mixing properly and also uve just shot ur self in the foot there djs use laptops cose of final scratch and that is played through decks with vinyl on

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Originally posted by her throat cut in trance you put the vunyl for minutes and not much to do. in techno and more serious dance music, you need to keep working on the turntables non-stop. its making you tired.

If it's making you tired then why do you DJ to start with?

Also, I would like to see Jeff Mills mixing 60 tracks per hour using CD's. The time to load the CD takes longer than choosing a record, laying it on the deck and putting the needle on.

Hmmm... get off your high horse and quit trolling the forums. You are probably the person that downloads all music from p2p programs, mixes them together, and calls themselves a dj. Give me a break.

Like what was said above, the dj's never said vinyl sucks, they just think that cd's are more practical and easier to transport and allow for more music. I'll agree with this. Let me ask this: if vinyls sucked so much, why have they been around so long and are still being used? Standard records like we use today have been manufactured since the early 1940's (I think), which is 60+ years.

Yes, vinyls may eventually go completely, but I can't see that for a while yet. Unless ALL dance music releases, past and present are readily available on cd or WAV quality, then vinyls will still be used for dj'ing purposes. This may never happen, as some labels may not be financially up for re-releasing all tracks in digital format. Vinyl may be the only way to play certain tracks, unless of course, you download illegally everything.

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Originally posted by her throat cut well call me dumb then because i am using new technology and you are stick with the old vinyl that was big when....hmm years and years ago. i never tought to say it sucks because i knew how most will react, but now after seeing the biggest djs in the wolrd saying it does indeed suck, then i have nothing further to prove.

That arguement is fundamentaly flawed.

A: it's hardly new technology, CD has been around for a long time now and no one here is disputing the sound quality is better.
Many Dj's happily use both mediums, vinyl and CD.

B: The Biggest DJ's in the world are still using vinyl, if you are referring to Dj's like Sasha or PvD, then you need to keep a closer eye on them, PvD still takes his record box around with him and his CD wallet, He is not exclusively using final scratch, at Sensation White just recently PvD combined all 3 mediums, Vinyl, Cd and his laptop.

C: not a single DJ who is using CD or Final Scratch has said Vinyl sucks, they all regard vinyl with the utmost esteem, they embrace the use of final scratch and CD because they are always on the move and its far easier to make sure they have the latest tracks with a laptop or cd than to have vinyl shipped to where ever they happen to be.
They can download a MP3 and play it that night, or a producer at a gig can hand over a freshly burnt CDr to a dj in the booth for instant playage.

D: The use of vinyl is not going to go away any time soon, turntables still outsell any other type of equipment or instrument.
If vinyl was about to go, then decks would not be selling as well as they are.

E: When CD came out over 15 years ago, people said then it would be the end of vinyl, that is not the case and in fact more vinyl was sold last year than at any other point in the last 10 years.

F: As a DJ myself i will continue to use Vinyl as long as it exists, i also use CD.
Vinyl seems more real, has more warmth and depth to it where as CD is too cold, a real Dj knows how fulfilling it is to spin with vinyl.

In conclusion i am not saying new technology is bad, as long as the music reaches the audience then any medium is ok but for you to say that Dj's that spin with vinyl are outdated and that vinyl sucks is a very immature attitude to have.

oh well.
stick with vunyls then.

but remember what one of the best djs Sasha said....
�I think it is going to reinvent the role of the DJ and sort the men from the boys�

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Originally posted by Wicked Neo That arguement is fundamentaly flawed. A-F here.

I bow to you, sir.

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Originally posted by her throat cut oh well. stick with vunyls then. but remember what one of the best djs said.... �I think it is going to reinvent the role of the DJ and sort the men from the boys�

Which DJ? It doesn't help when we don't get a name with the quote.

sorry, i edited and posted the name.
it is in the link.

most certainly they will go together as i see it.

i just think people who keep spining on vinyl alone are way undeveloped as djs.

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Originally posted by sleepydragon u mix on a computer u think ur in the future erm.. no get of the computer and try mixing properly and also uve just shot ur self in the foot there djs use laptops cose of final scratch and that is played through decks with vinyl on

most of them are on mp3.

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Originally posted by her throat cut most of them are on mp3.

You obviously don't know what Final Scratch is. From what I've seen, is you have some sort of vinyl on a deck that you use to control the mp3 with. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I believe that's how it happens.

DJs don't just stand there, get a graphical read-out on the BPM, and call it good. I'm willing to bet those using Final Scratch still do as much as they can to not use auto-features, etc.

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Originally posted by her throat cut most of them are on mp3.

Wrong again.

Final Scratch can use WAV or Mp3 but to mix those the DJ uses TIME ENCODED VINYL on a set of normal decks thru a normal mixer and an interface to the laptop.
basicly all the laptop is there for is like a record box.

there is no mixing done on the laptop, its all done on normal decks and a mixer with time encoded vinyl.

the Dj using final scratch is using all his vinyl mixing skills to full effect.

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Originally posted by idoru You obviously don't know what Final Scratch is. From what I've seen, is you have some sort of vinyl on a deck that you use to control the mp3 with. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I believe that's how it happens. DJs don't just stand there, get a graphical read-out on the BPM, and call it good. I'm willing to bet those using Final Scratch still do as much as they can to not use auto-features, etc.

Yup, thats how it works, but i must admit using a program like final scratch is nothing like normal vinyl. It can be to an extent...but its hard to ignore all the other features (the display on your laptop)

sorry for the large pic but this is final scratch in all its glory.



OMG look there are decks and mixer with vinyl on them . . .

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Originally posted by her throat cut most of them are on mp3.

Don't we feel special now? Just fire up Kazaa, download a few tracks, half-ass mix them in an audio editor, and bam you're a dj. I'm impressed.

lame.

i hope those vinyls get raplaced soon with some digital vinyls or some shit.
i am tired of them.

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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue Don't we feel special now? Just fire up Kazaa, download a few tracks, half-ass mix them in an audio editor, and bam you're a dj. I'm impressed.

well, yes.
i never said i was good dj or professional for that matter.

tough you still need skills to make it fantastic.
many people mix on computer and its just the same.
sometimes you need imagination.

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Originally posted by her throat cut lame. i hope those vinyls get raplaced soon with some digital vinyls or some shit. i am tired of them.

Why? Because you have to work to get results?

If you think you can become one of the top-10 rated DJs by sitting on your ass doing not even a half-assed job, then you are quite mistaken.

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Originally posted by her throat cut most certainly they will go together as i see it. i just think people who keep spining on vinyl alone are way undeveloped as djs.

That's not what you first said. And no DJ is "undevelopped" because s/he's only using vinyl. Afaik, everything in the club scene is still being released on vinyl. It's not like you can't do without digital.

What it boils down to is that digital music is gaining more and more popularity for various reasons and the most important one probably being comfort. It's more comfortable carrying it around and you can easily keep a copy of all your music at home so that if your music gets lost you can still retrieve it. I don't imagine any major DJ converts his weekly vinyl supply to MP3 before leaving to a gig at the other end of the world.

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Originally posted by idoru Why? Because you have to work to get results? If you think you can become one of the top-10 rated DJs by sitting on your ass doing not even a half-assed job, then you are quite mistaken.

yes?
well how come Tiesto is number 1 for two years on the row?
he is like the lamest dj i know, but just because he spins trance(which many people dig) and makes show, people will like him.

i actually think some of the best djs were way behind. so, its all about the show as it seems and knowing what people like in this business. not how much work you put on the turntables.

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Originally posted by her throat cut most of them are on mp3.

Don't we feel special now? Just fire up Kazaa, download a few tracks, half-ass mix them in an audio editor, and bam you're a dj. I'm impressed.

another f*cking thread about this??

Her throat cut is an idiot

that's all I have to say about that

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