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Originally posted by malek every girl has to be bi... its like a collective brainwash (tv, mags, movies...)

I think more women coming out as bi is very strongly influenced by how much it is accepted with the males. I go to a party and I hug a girlfriend of mine, and all the guys are like "LET'S SEE SOME LESBO ACTION!"

Honestly, I don't think girls are truly bi, but more just doing it for the acceptance of their male peers.

Being an atheistic, anti-american, unpatriotic, government hating hippy with tats, piercings, and pseudo intellectual spew about religion causing wars and governments reducing freedom.

To be someone who doesnt "need" anybody and to treat eachother like crap. To spend your time watching television instead of trying to suck every last breath you can while you are on this amazing earth.

To play games, pretend not to be interested, to work less for more money.

To know the price of everything, yet the value of nothing.

To be as uncompromising as possible. If someone disagrees with you hey, we all have our opinions, instead of sticking to your guns until proven otherwise.

No confrontations. No moralism. No Objectivism.

To TAKE offense, instead of actually BEING offended. To defend homosexuality, consumerism, and multi-culturalism whole heartedly and passing off anyone who might have a problem with the ACTION and playing games by saying they hate "gays" or "blacks" and making it personal instead of realizing they might just might be talkin about the culture or the social ramifications.

To take that which is sacred and desecrate it. To bring down ideals, high hopes, and try to ground them into "reality".

Hedonism, plagiarism, and debauchery. To go through life putting in as LITTLE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN and still get as much as you can from others.

To have friends, not be one. To be unavailable.

To piss and moan instead of doing something.

Compassion vs caring eg, you feel reallllly bad about an issue, but youve never done a friggin thing about it in your life, yet you tote yourself as some kind of savior?

To mock saviors. To pass your self-centeredness and weakness onto others, and judge them so critically that you eventually feel good about yourself.

Take others down instead of rising up.

pot, lesbians, and rap.

I have more, but you probably get the point.

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Originally posted by Orbax Being an atheistic, anti-american, unpatriotic, government hating hippy with tats, piercings, and pseudo intellectual spew about religion causing wars and governments reducing freedom. To be someone who doesnt "need" anybody and to treat eachother like crap. To spend your time watching television instead of trying to suck every last breath you can while you are on this amazing earth. To play games, pretend not to be interested, to work less for more money. To know the price of everything, yet the value of nothing. To be as uncompromising as possible. If someone disagrees with you hey, we all have our opinions, instead of sticking to your guns until proven otherwise. No confrontations. No moralism. No Objectivism. To TAKE offense, instead of actually BEING offended. To defend homosexuality, consumerism, and multi-culturalism whole heartedly and passing off anyone who might have a problem with the ACTION and playing games by saying they hate "gays" or "blacks" and making it personal instead of realizing they might just might be talkin about the culture or the social ramifications. To take that which is sacred and desecrate it. To bring down ideals, high hopes, and try to ground them into "reality". Hedonism, plagiarism, and debauchery. To go through life putting in as LITTLE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN and still get as much as you can from others. To have friends, not be one. To be unavailable. To piss and moan instead of doing something. Compassion vs caring eg, you feel reallllly bad about an issue, but youve never done a friggin thing about it in your life, yet you tote yourself as some kind of savior? To mock saviors. To pass your self-centeredness and weakness onto others, and judge them so critically that you eventually feel good about yourself. Take others down instead of rising up. pot, lesbians, and rap. I have more, but you probably get the point.

You are a new friend of mine.

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Originally posted by Theresa I think more women coming out as bi is very strongly influenced by how much it is accepted with the males. I go to a party and I hug a girlfriend of mine, and all the guys are like "LET'S SEE SOME LESBO ACTION!" Honestly, I don't think girls are truly bi, but more just doing it for the acceptance of their male peers.

thats it, i'm just too lazy to type it all out

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Originally posted by TweeK I also like the OC *plays the OC theme song*

Phantom Planet - California

A straight person dressing so queer he makes gay people look straight.

Im sure its been mentioned, but Im too lazy to read everything.

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Originally posted by Orbax Being an atheistic, anti-american, unpatriotic, government hating hippy with tats, piercings, and pseudo intellectual spew about religion causing wars and governments reducing freedom.

"Onward Christian Soldier"

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To be someone who doesnt "need" anybody and to treat eachother like crap. To spend your time watching television instead of trying to suck every last breath you can while you are on this amazing earth.

Hey, you show me a guy sitting at home masterbating to game shows, and I'll show you a guy whos not causing any fucking trouble.

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To play games, pretend not to be interested, to work less for more money.

We talkin about relationships or jobs, or the job of relationships?

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To know the price of everything, yet the value of nothing.

Agreed.

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To be as uncompromising as possible. If someone disagrees with you hey, we all have our opinions, instead of sticking to your guns until proven otherwise.

No Balls in this world sometimes...

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No confrontations. No moralism. No Objectivism.

See Answer Above

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To piss and moan instead of doing something.

This could be seen as a piss and moan unless you did something about every issue you brought up.

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pot, lesbians, and rap.

Well, to each their own, but I cant see whats wrong with pot, or lesbians, or some rap. Then again generalizations always come out wrong.

I would of answered a bunch more, but I think I agreed with a bunch of it, except the first message. That was very George W. of you to say that..

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That was very George W. of you to say that..

Umm... no, he's pointing out the "pseudo-intellectual" 13 year olds who bash every religion under the sun because they're big bad atheists.

Unfortunately America is losing its diversity and polarizing into fundies and liberal whack jobs. Im pointing out that its cooler to be the liberal whack job instead of the fundie.


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-I dont mind being a Christian Soldier. Ive helped a lot of people and ill help a lot more. Im respected by my peers for it.

-Not doing anything bad...so if you had an employee who never did anything bad would he be a good employee? Just because he doesnt pee in a coffee cup at his desk hes a good employee? Im sorry, but a good anyone is someone who actually does good.

-Its hard to change you guys over the internet. I tend to roll with very active people, and we tend to convert others in our rolling

-The last point was the if you are college age, if you smoke pot, blatantly love porn and blast rap you are guaranteed people will like you.

I need to start an American Psycho inspired "Its hip to be square" alliance

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Originally posted by Pariah Cleric Umm... no, he's pointing out the "pseudo-intellectual" 13 year olds who bash every religion under the sun because they're big bad atheists.

to a degree. pseudo intellectuals to me are the ones with a big list of donts and shouldnts but have no positive feedback to give. They know enough to hate, but not enough to advise. Thats a very dangerous level of knowledge. Tends to tear countries apart. Hollywood political activists for instance.


and atheism these days seems to be defined as "Against Christianity"

they think the "philosophies" of the east are cool, because they arent white, european, or american, and arent violent. its funny when they say that and you look at how many religious rebellions have occurred/are occurring over there.

oh yeah, and its cool to not be a white, christian, american, straight, male who is well educated, dressed, and successful. Thats taking advantage of something or someone somewhere, we are sure of it!

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Originally posted by Orbax Being an atheistic, anti-american, unpatriotic, government hating hippy with tats, piercings, and pseudo intellectual spew about religion causing wars and governments reducing freedom. To be someone who doesnt "need" anybody and to treat eachother like crap. To spend your time watching television instead of trying to suck every last breath you can while you are on this amazing earth. To play games, pretend not to be interested, to work less for more money. To know the price of everything, yet the value of nothing. To be as uncompromising as possible. If someone disagrees with you hey, we all have our opinions, instead of sticking to your guns until proven otherwise. No confrontations. No moralism. No Objectivism. To TAKE offense, instead of actually BEING offended. To defend homosexuality, consumerism, and multi-culturalism whole heartedly and passing off anyone who might have a problem with the ACTION and playing games by saying they hate "gays" or "blacks" and making it personal instead of realizing they might just might be talkin about the culture or the social ramifications. To take that which is sacred and desecrate it. To bring down ideals, high hopes, and try to ground them into "reality". Hedonism, plagiarism, and debauchery. To go through life putting in as LITTLE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN and still get as much as you can from others. To have friends, not be one. To be unavailable. To piss and moan instead of doing something. Compassion vs caring eg, you feel reallllly bad about an issue, but youve never done a friggin thing about it in your life, yet you tote yourself as some kind of savior? To mock saviors. To pass your self-centeredness and weakness onto others, and judge them so critically that you eventually feel good about yourself. Take others down instead of rising up. pot, lesbians, and rap. I have more, but you probably get the point.

Pretty much sumed up my views....

you can join my alliance :-]

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Originally posted by Orbax you can join my alliance :-]

just a question...is it hip to be cube?

thats just multiple squares its an alliance fool!

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Originally posted by Orbax thats just multiple squares its an alliance fool!

wait...

multiple squares means multiple hip

sorry i'm really tired

im hip to the third dimension baby

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Originally posted by Orbax to a degree. pseudo intellectuals to me are the ones with a big list of donts and shouldnts but have no positive feedback to give. They know enough to hate, but not enough to advise. Thats a very dangerous level of knowledge. Tends to tear countries apart. Hollywood political activists for instance. and atheism these days seems to be defined as "Against Christianity" they think the "philosophies" of the east are cool, because they arent white, european, or american, and arent violent. its funny when they say that and you look at how many religious rebellions have occurred/are occurring over there. oh yeah, and its cool to not be a white, christian, american, straight, male who is well educated, dressed, and successful. Thats taking advantage of something or someone somewhere, we are sure of it!

Perhaps you shouldnt define by what you think, instead of what is fact, and maybe your points would be more correct. It seems you have your own qualm with what you are, as opposed to the message I was saying, as those who try to spread christianity where it doesnt want to be spread. I dont mind religion, I hate preachers.

As for this talk about motivating yourself from doing nothing? why do these countries (Canada, USA) need so much motivation? why is everyone obsessed with doing something and meaning something? Im sorry, but if you ask me, its these highly motivated people that scare me the most, stock market swindlers, serial killers, christian fundamentalist...these are highly motivated people.

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Originally posted by Rodrico Perhaps you shouldnt define by what you think, instead of what is fact, and maybe your points would be more correct.

According to you? lol

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It seems you have your own qualm with what you are

not really.

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as opposed to the message I was saying, as those who try to spread christianity where it doesnt want to be spread. I dont mind religion, I hate preachers.

unsolicited preachers yes. But when someone is hurting and you are there for them, and during the conversation about love and life, you happen to witness what made your life better, and they get interested, that isnt preaching.

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As for this talk about motivating yourself from doing nothing? why do these countries (Canada, USA) need so much motivation? why is everyone obsessed with doing something and meaning something? Im sorry, but if you ask me, its these highly motivated people that scare me the most, stock market swindlers, serial killers, christian fundamentalist...these are highly motivated people.

So what are you trying to convince me of exactly? That motivation is bad?

Orbax: Just to point out, not all 13-year old athiests are the annoying types with the tibetain Ankhs and stupid bullshit like that. Yes, i know one or two myself, but i was 13 a few years back, and am still athiest, and am still liberal, but don't have a problem with anyone's religion - some people even tried asking me about their spiritual problems - not that i could give much advice. I didn't do any weird fake religions, and i didn't bitch about things. The weird ones give the rest of us a bad name.

And just wondering, what do you have against gays?

I am in no way attacking you in this post, and judging by your posts in the "what girls want" thread you seem like a really cool guy. just one who generalizes and rants a bit.

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Originally posted by Orbax So what are you trying to convince me of exactly? That motivation is bad?

That its over rated.

Also, I hate when people point out certain instances where they make religion seem like the only best possible way. It is one way, but not the only way that a person can be healed emotionally or spiritually.

ok... what's pretty hip nowerdays?

hmmmmm.... jeans can be hip i guess

[/dadjoke]

Those ass-ugly skirts with all the pleats that girls are wearing, trucker hats, and around my town, the prick high schoolers are starting to wear '60s floral shirts and have started listening to Bob Dylan because someone in the upper-echelon of their ranks decided that Dylan is now "cool".

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Originally posted by MrCowski Orbax: Just to point out, not all 13-year old athiests are the annoying types with the tibetain Ankhs and stupid bullshit like that. Yes, i know one or two myself, but i was 13 a few years back, and am still athiest, and am still liberal, but don't have a problem with anyone's religion - some people even tried asking me about their spiritual problems - not that i could give much advice. I didn't do any weird fake religions, and i didn't bitch about things. The weird ones give the rest of us a bad name. And just wondering, what do you have against gays? I am in no way attacking you in this post, and judging by your posts in the "what girls want" thread you seem like a really cool guy. just one who generalizes and rants a bit.

generalizations help us move through life

I dont know if youve ever seen someone die, or seen an animal dying, you just get this instant gut feeling that this is WRONG. Gayness does that to me. I have had gay friends, co workers , etc... they are out there and fun a lot of times.

Its not all "gut instinct" though.

Im not going to really get into this, cuz its not the point, but while a lot of people think its Not Wrong, they seldom say HOMOSEXUALITY IS RIGHT! whats right about it? Love? I love dogs, doesnt mean im sexually attracted to them.

Also, on the religious level, the man/woman relationship has been thoroughly defined.

on a social level i think that paternalness and maternalness cant be faked, or superceded by any convention. Not to say there arent bad parents and role models in the straight community, but I dont think its really an argument on whats better for society.

maybe there is. I dont really care. I think its dead wrong, and I dont support it. I support the people who have to go through the alienating, lonely, and scary world of a homosexual, however. It aint an easy life, and I dont believe in making it more difficult for them.

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Motivation is a tool. Thats like saying guns are evil.

youre first thought was about how its a weapon and it kills people. It also can be used to hunt and provide for a family.

People are good and evil, and they use tools to those ends.

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Originally posted by Orbax According to you? lol

Well you defined something that was opinion really? How can you define something if its what you think it is, rather than what it really is. I wasnt the one pointing out definitions that were merely opinions and trying to pass them off as some sort of fact.

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not really.

Then why is it bothering you that being a single, white, christian, male who is well educated, and well dress is the un-cool thing to do? For someone who preaches confidence, you sure do care about what obviously "morons" think about you. Unless you were being un-christian like in becoming a well educatied, well dressed single white successful male, but thats a whole nother story?

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Originally posted by Rodrico Also, I hate when people point out certain instances where they make religion seem like the only best possible way. It is one way, but not the only way that a person can be healed emotionally or spiritually.

True that. I use alcohol more than the Bible, Ill admit. But i think some kind of spiritualism is present in most peoples lives, whether its avoiding walking under ladders, or not going into the woods at night, or believing in God. Many levels, but i think people want to be spooked about something they cant define in life and be made happy by something like that as well. Love tends to fulfill that purpose nicely, and many people cant find a suitable mate. So why not find an entity with everything youd want, and love it?

I cant say they are right or wrong, happiness is paramount, but I do believe in a certain moral code. Uhm, not gonna do the religion debate though Ive already done that for two years here hehe. Im solid on it.

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