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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa 75% of us hate bush, |
If a ton of people hated Bush, why did he get elected in 2000?. I think that a majority of people dislike Bush in some way but they feel he is better than Kerry, so he might win another term in office. I find that most people dislike the person who runs the country but since the rest of the people that you vote for are worse, you vote for the guy again. I voted for Paul Martin in the recent election because he was better than the other 4 party leaders. In Canada, we are used to bad prime ministers, mulroney and chretien (more near the end of jean's term) are prime examples. There is still a lot of people who could change their minds and votes till the US election in 2004. I say the vote is too close to call, I'd like to see anyone but Bush in power because I felt he has hurt Canada with the lame softwood lumber dispute, the wheat dispute, closing the border to alberta beef and we've been right imo but I don't trust Kerry either and my country has to deal with whoever is president. The American people will have their say on who the next president is and right now I think it's too close to call. A lot can happen in a few months.
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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa i'm a texan. 75% of us hate bush, it's just that probably 40% of us can't vote yet...  |
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| Originally posted by echosystm I don't think i'm going to come back to this forum, I can't stop myself from offending people or getting angry  |
because its such a disgusting term.
for labeling Americans as gay.....LOL
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| Originally posted by arctic Before calling other people idiots, perhaps you should consider taking a look in the mirror. SOme gays do vote for Bush. http://www.logcabin.org/logcabin/index.html Yes, that's right, anyone who disagrees with you must be 'trash'. then again, I wouldn't have expected much more from someone with a 'Kerry for president of France' graphic in their avatar -- if that isn't ignorance and stupidity I don't know what is.  |
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| Originally posted by torontotrance If a ton of people hated Bush, why did he get elected in 2000?. I think that a majority of people dislike Bush in some way but they feel he is better than Kerry, so he might win another term in office. I find that most people dislike the person who runs the country but since the rest of the people that you vote for are worse, you vote for the guy again. I voted for Paul Martin in the recent election because he was better than the other 4 party leaders. In Canada, we are used to bad prime ministers, mulroney and chretien (more near the end of jean's term) are prime examples. There is still a lot of people who could change their minds and votes till the US election in 2004. I say the vote is too close to call, I'd like to see anyone but Bush in power because I felt he has hurt Canada with the lame softwood lumber dispute, the wheat dispute, closing the border to alberta beef and we've been right imo but I don't trust Kerry either and my country has to deal with whoever is president. The American people will have their say on who the next president is and right now I think it's too close to call. A lot can happen in a few months. |
(sarcasm)
See I'm fed up with people generalizing and people just pushing their hate agendas in here. That's all this forum becomes at times, people yelling at others for having different view points. Most people in here think Bush had an easy job (I state that I've never agreed with most of what he has done) but running a country is never easy. It is easy to sit here and say I could have done better but you were not voted in by the American Public, so as far as I'm concerned, most people can STFU about they could have done better.
As far as what I think about Michael Moore, most people view him as a voice of reason or a complete idiot. It seems that Bush hating and American hating is in vogue now and that it's cool to hate the USA. I'd say that 50% of Americans have doubts that they were completely right with their foreign policy. Moore was great at the start, he had some decent points but then his rants took over and his hypocracy started to show, i mean how can he talk about fat americans, he is fat, he lambasted small businesses as rednecks that ruin the towns, when he claims to be pro business, he claims to be pro american but outsourced his website to Canada. See in my view, either you talk the talk or you don't, there is no in between, there is no MAYBE in my book, it's yes or no. The problem with this board is most of you are anti american, anti bush or sorta anti something and all that shows is the rampant hate. It's brutally pathetic, yes some will point out, I'm half American because my mother is American but I've lived all my life in Canada. I find it's easier for some to just criticize and lash out (heck I did it for yrs and now i realize how pointless it all is). It's so easy to paint something with a broad stroke or to generalize.
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| Originally posted by torontotrance See I'm fed up with people generalizing and people just pushing their hate agendas in here. That's all this forum becomes at times, people yelling at others for having different view points. Most people in here think Bush had an easy job (I state that I've never agreed with most of what he has done) but running a country is never easy. It is easy to sit here and say I could have done better but you were not voted in by the American Public, so as far as I'm concerned, most people can STFU about they could have done better. As far as what I think about Michael Moore, most people view him as a voice of reason or a complete idiot. It seems that Bush hating and American hating is in vogue now and that it's cool to hate the USA. I'd say that 50% of Americans have doubts that they were completely right with their foreign policy. Moore was great at the start, he had some decent points but then his rants took over and his hypocracy started to show, i mean how can he talk about fat americans, he is fat, he lambasted small businesses as rednecks that ruin the towns, when he claims to be pro business, he claims to be pro american but outsourced his website to Canada. See in my view, either you talk the talk or you don't, there is no in between, there is no MAYBE in my book, it's yes or no. The problem with this board is most of you are anti american, anti bush or sorta anti something and all that shows is the rampant hate. It's brutally pathetic, yes some will point out, I'm half American because my mother is American but I've lived all my life in Canada. I find it's easier for some to just criticize and lash out (heck I did it for yrs and now i realize how pointless it all is). It's so easy to paint something with a broad stroke or to generalize. |
People rather flame politicians rather than actually try to do something about it. That's the sad part with most of this forum, you are all talk yet you don't do crap to attempt to change it. The hate is beyond control and it is the same names but what it shows is why certain situations are on going.
Cyrus King, Zing, Malek, Taha and others are all so one sided with the Isreal-Palestine conflict and it shows by their actions, how far the hate is and why the conflict is not resolved. It's sad when most people rather just hammer away, I think that some people hate the other side so much, they don't care about the loss of life on that side. It's pathetic, no more peace can't be achieved, it shows through their attitudes and I see why the violence continues.
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| Originally posted by torontotrance People rather flame politicians rather than actually try to do something about it. That's the sad part with most of this forum, you are all talk yet you don't do crap to attempt to change it. The hate is beyond control and it is the same names but what it shows is why certain situations are on going. Cyrus King, Zing, Malek, Taha and others are all so one sided with the Isreal-Palestine conflict and it shows by their actions, how far the hate is and why the conflict is not resolved. It's sad when most people rather just hammer away, I think that some people hate the other side so much, they don't care about the loss of life on that side. It's pathetic, no more peace can't be achieved, it shows through their attitudes and I see why the violence continues. |
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| Originally posted by speedracer_mec Its called a personal opinion turned into a political message. Politics is dirty. |
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| As far as the gays....They as an entire group are in the DEM. constituency.....regardless of the smaller few that will vote GOP. |
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| Originally posted by arctic I don't know what that had to do with what I posted, but okay. |
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| Originally posted by speedracer_mec my avator is part of dirty politics. Something that has hampered this forum and will continue to. |
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| so if you call that ignorance....fine with me. |
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| Originally posted by speedracer_mec You are right...this forum is a bash and hack/slash frenzy. |
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| Originally posted by arctic Right, so you condemn what you term 'dirty politics', but then proceed to engage in it yourself? Does that not make you a hypocrite? Yes, I call anything as stupid as that ignorance. 'Kerry for president of France' -- honestly, what does that even mean? Is there something wrong with France? Is it supposed to be some kind of insult, because if so -- it's a pretty lame one. It's almost as funny as the whole 'freedom fries' thing. |
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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa coming from someone who just dismissed my point of view because i haven't talked to every single person who lives in the entire state of texas? did i say he wouldn't win texas? of course not. of course he'll get texas. most of my friends under 18, most of them also don't like bush. that was my point, that the younger texans don't like him. you can disagree w/ me, but don't be an ass. thanks. |
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| Originally posted by speedracer_mec I agree most young guns dont like Bush. |
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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa then you should read posts more carefully b/c that's exactly what mine was intended to say. |
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| i'm a texan. 75% of us hate bush |
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| Originally posted by speedracer_mec Why not? I mean everyone in here calls Bush an idiot. WHy not? |
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| And you poking at the avator as lame...just shows you being interested with it. |
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| If you dont like...just drop it. Just shows your fascination with it. |
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| Originally posted by arctic So two wrongs make a right? Oh, and FYI 'everyone' does not call Bush an idiot -- there are quite a number of resident right-wingers about who don't mind him. No, I just noted that you were calling other people ignorant, then noticed your avatar. The two just don't seem to go togther. Err -- we're on a forum, the entire point is to discuss things. |
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| Originally posted by speedracer_mec RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR so were you trying to be like Michael Moore by making this comment. He does things like that. That fake headline in the movie. Also the interview of cia director. |
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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa fuck michael moore. i'm not trying to be like anyone. 75% of ALL texans. ALL texans ALL AGES. you need to chill the hell out. weren't you the one that agreed w/ TTA when he said people bashed others for having different views in here? there's no way in hell i could come up with an acurate statistic, i am just going by the people i know in texas. i know a lot of texans from a lot of different areas. i'm not an authority, i never claimed to be, i'm just making the point that a lot of people in texas dislike bush. people make the generalization that ALL texans love bush, and therefor bush haters tend to bash texas. my point was that some of the people in texas share the same views as the bush haters so they shouldn't generalize. let people make their points w/o beating your disagreeance over everyone's head. |
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| Originally posted by speedracer_mec Yea fuck Michael Moore. I didnt Bash anyone or engaged in name calling Good day. |
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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa i never accused you of name calling...and it's night here btw- why do you support bush? i am interested. (not judging) |
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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa i'm a texan. 75% of us hate bush, it's just that probably 40% of us can't vote yet... |
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