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If you didnt already know.....


DRUGS DESTROYED OAKIE

drugs, eh?

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Originally posted by torontotrance He found some hip hop artists, led acid house, led goa trance, got a big ego and was why superstar deejays were hated. I mean he's done his bit, let him die of coke addiction.

He led Goa? I think not.

Or, give me some example of how he did.

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Originally posted by Tranquil010 I got in to EDM becuase of him...

I don't doubt it.




And I never liked most of what Oakenfold did even when I thought "Trance" was the only music worth listening to.

His GOA and GU mixes are decent enough if only for the music played. I don't mind hearing Hip Hop/Pop/Rock/EDM all in one set but i'd rather hear it from a DJ who does it better like Erol Alkan or....someone else. lol.

i bet`ya u all hate Oakie cause he isnt making melodic cheese u all like to listen too

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Originally posted by meLon drugs, eh?

He has been battling a severe cocaine problem since 2000.

paul oakenfold:

a voyage into trance

tranceport

resident: two years of oakenfold at cream



im assuming the vocals of ready steady go in Collateral are spanish, because there are lots of spanish/mexicans in california

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Originally posted by Subtle i bet`ya u all hate Oakie cause he isnt making melodic cheese u all like to listen too

Are you implying that all melodic is cheese?

Time for the weekly, Oakenfold sucks thread, I see

An article that is a decent read:

Brand Name, House Special
Paul Oakenfold is the big box megastore of the mom-and-pop DJ world
BY DARREN KEAST
[email protected]


Hating British trance DJ Paul Oakenfold is like hating Wal-Mart -- it's not that fun.
Like the ubiquitous superstore, Oakenfold is officially the biggest and most successful at what he does, namely, playing clubs all over the world, selling mix CDs and producing remixes for top-shelf pop artists. In fact, Guinness declared him just that, the World's Most Successful DJ.

Also like Wal-Mart, Oakenfold is high-profile and routinely faulted for questionable quality by critics. But Wal-Mart sells a pair of unworn blue jeans for $9. Who can hate that? Oakenfold has moved a million copies of a mix CD, something no other DJ has done. An Oakenfold mix is often the one lonely bit of electronic music in a hard-line, "techno's for sissies" rock consumer's collection. People who know jack shit about dance music know Oakenfold. There's power in that.

Hating Oakenfold, then, is almost like wishing for the demise of electronic music itself. If Wal-Mart suddenly went Chapter 11, the GDP of the country would almost be cut in half -- or at least it seems that way. If Oakenfold called it quits, the dance industry would likewise shudder. In 2001, he signed an unknown Russian trance act called PPK to his Perfecto label, and the resulting single sold 300,000 copies and became one of the biggest club hits of the year. Oakenfold wields a trickle-down effect that provides nourishment to scores of lesser-known artists -- if he gives frequent rotation to a given producer's track, other DJs will snatch it up, too.

It's also fair to say Oakenfold has been the leading ambassador of electronic music, bringing it to far-flung markets previously closed to it. Last year, he released a two-disc live mix recorded at the Great Wall of China called Great Wall. Although expat Westerners have been throwing underground raves on or around the Wall for years, his performance was the first sanctioned event by a professional DJ. The resulting product is an unremarkable sampling of the latest "hooj choons" that are causing speakers to quake in the world's megaclubs. Woven in with Bj�rk's "Pagan Poetry" and Oakenfold's own pretty "Hypnotised" record are a few of his remixes, most notably his take on Madonna's "Hollywood."

And penetrating the elusive Asian market is not the farthest he's gone in disseminating his brand name. In the mid- and late '90s, Oakenfold was able to sneak his brand of completely unsubtle, towering trance tunes into the belly of the beast itself: the rock arena circuit. He was the first DJ to play England's Glastonbury Festival, and he opened for the Rolling Stones and U2. Last year, he was granted the right to remix Elvis. It's almost gotten to the point where Oakenfold's not the biggest fish in the pond. He's the water.

And yet, those both inside and outside club culture despise him with a rare gusto. A line of popular "Oakenfold Sucks" T-shirts made the rounds a few years ago, and when URB magazine, the bastion of supposedly authentic "future music," finally conceded to putting him on its cover in 2000, the letters page in the next issue was bursting with subscription-canceling threats.

Because it is so pass� and implicit that serious fans of electronic music shit on Oakenfold, his detractors have to engage in gross hyperbole to make their point. "He sucks more than a Slurpee fiend sucking back a lollipop into a jet intake and then pulled out of a space shuttle airlock with a cargo of baby pacifiers," a writer with the rave culture Web site ishkur.com concluded.

While it's hard to disagree with the fact that Oakenfold has given new life to this still mostly niche music, it's also widely believed that's he's killed certain aspects of it, too. Part of this, of course, is the inevitable backlash that comes with any artist in any genre who holds the brass ring. But there's more to it.

Mark Bowen, 24, an amateur DJ and dance-music chat-room denizen, put it succinctly in an e-mail, "The problem with Oakie is he's become a jukebox. He just plays whatever the current taste is no matter how awful. A DJ should push the boundaries and educate an audience about what's out there."

Oakenfold has been asked the question numerous times in interviews -- What about the underground? -- and he told Rolling Stone in 2001 that the perceptions of what he does are skewed. "Ninety percent of the music I play is not on vinyl, it's acetate." Producers put out small runs of new tracks on acetate before other consumers can get the actual vinyl version. "You can't get any more underground than that."

His argument is slightly specious, since as a superstar DJ he gets the songs that are predestined for chart success early on acetate, which doesn't necessarily make them underground by virtue of the medium. But of course, the titles of the tracks, where they come from and how underground they are doesn't matter at all to most of the kids lost in a trance at a club, the Great Wall or wherever Oakenfold will take his music next. The unfortunate reality that those Wal-Mart jeans were made by Burmese preteens doesn't take away from how great a deal they represent.

Oakenfold is the closest thing to a household name in dance music because he simply gives consumers what they want, and how deeply he digs to find it is ultimately immaterial to most.



houstonpress.com | originally published: July 8, 2004


http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2004-07-08/music.html

Hey it was not an oakenfold sucks thread at all, just wanted to know wtf people's problem is with him. I see what it is now, but I still like his work, never heared or seen him mix so that doesn't matter to me. And I didn't think this was posted before so I didn't search it, I'm sorry but I rarely post or read the music discussion forum, so excuse me for double posting

Cheers

Heh, this may not have been posted exactly, but threads with the same sentiment have been posted several times. No worries though, it usually generates some type of new discussion.

As for spec's article above...nice piece of literature concerning most people's thoughts on Oakie.

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Originally posted by tribu Heh, this may not have been posted exactly, but threads with the same sentiment have been posted several times. No worries though, it usually generates some type of new discussion. As for spec's article above...nice piece of literature concerning most people's thoughts on Oakie.

I thought it was close to the money as far as Oakenfold's place in the world is concerned.

They don't address the other possible reasons for his demise but you wouldn't expect too much detail in a real article.

I must say that his new york global underground 007 mix disc 2 is still my all time favorite recording.

I was worried about oakenfold when i heard Starry Eyes Suprise on MTV. :\ I just hope he recovers!!!

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Originally posted by Floorfiller people just don't like oak because its become trendy not to like him...

no its not, i thought it was trendy to hate tiesto

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Originally posted by ToF no its not, i thought it was trendy to hate tiesto

True.

Let us all write a letter to him that says
"Please do better. Stop doing coke. ^_^ Thank you."

I bet It'd work :P

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Originally posted by meLon Let us all write a letter to him that says "Please do better. Stop doing coke. ^_^ Thank you." I bet It'd work :P

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Originally posted by meLon Let us all write a letter to him that says "Please do better. Stop doing coke. ^_^ Thank you." I bet It'd work :P

Hahahaha, that would be awesome. Especially with that weird little face thing...he would be like "what the bloody fuckin' hell"

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Originally posted by DJ Cinos Are you implying that all melodic is cheese?

well, it ain`t cheese if it isn`t melodic

we gotta realize that its ALL A MATTER OF OPIINION......
no one can deny that he really HAS done it ALL in edm

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