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Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-19-2004 13:39:

BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ted/3578830.stm


quote:


Jonathan Woodgate is on the verge of joining Real Madrid, according to the newspaper that first revealed the club's interest in Michael Owen.

Marca claims a deal has been reached for the 24-year-old Newcastle defender, who will join Owen and David Beckham at the Bernabeu for a fee of about �15m.

Madrid coach Juan Antonio Camacho is desperate to boost his defence.

But Woodgate is still expected to be out for two to three weeks as he recovers from a serious thigh injury.

And the major stumbling block to Woodgate's transfer could be the medical.

The transfer window closes on 31 August and the defender would have to prove his fitness if the move was to happen.

Woodgate has not played since rupturing a thigh muscle in April and recently visited a German specialist in a bid to discover why it has taken so long for the injury to clear.

The defender has managed just 28 league games for the Magpies since his �9m move from Leeds in January 2003 and played 18 times in the Premiership last season.

Marca further reports that Camacho himself recommended signing Woodgate to the Real board, while the club were also said to be interested in Inter Milan's Fabio Cannavaro.

Real have already bolstered their defence this summer with the signing of Argentine defender Walter Samuel from Roma.

Jose Angel Sanchez - who negotiated David Beckham and Owen's transfers to Real - is reported to have recently visited Tyneside to try and thrash out the terms of a deal.

Woodgate has three years left on his current deal.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-19-2004 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ted/3578830.stm


Yesterday Fabio Cannavaro was linked with a move to Real Madrid and the papers said it was almost done within the next 2 days. Today its Woodgate and now I just heard on the Radio that Real have enquired on how much Milan value Nesta.


Posted by dchaves on Aug-19-2004 15:01:

quote:
Originally posted by FabioCannavaro
Yesterday Fabio Cannavaro was linked with a move to Real Madrid and the papers said it was almost done within the next 2 days. Today its Woodgate and now I just heard on the Radio that Real have enquired on how much Milan value Nesta.


From what I've heard, Cannavaro is kinda injured (I just can't explain it in english), and Woodgate or Nesta are only 2 more names on the list. I was almost sure that Real Madrid was going to buy Coloccini, but then I heard that he is the last option. So if they can't get Woodgate another name will show up.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-19-2004 15:06:

quote:
Originally posted by chavs
From what I've heard, Cannavaro is kinda injured (I just can't explain it in english), and Woodgate or Nesta are only 2 more names on the list. I was almost sure that Real Madrid was going to buy Coloccini, but then I heard that he is the last option. So if they can't get Woodgate another name will show up.


He was injured but now back in training today. Coloccini would make the most sense. He is young and has the talent to be as good as a Cannavaro or Nesta. Milan I think will not sell Nesta especially this season, Cannavaro is always linked with some club but think he will stay another year. Woodgate? not sure hopefully he will not go. If he does it should be for a lot of money.


Posted by dchaves on Aug-19-2004 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by FabioCannavaro
He was injured but now back in training today. Coloccini would make the most sense. He is young and has the talent to be as good as a Cannavaro or Nesta. Milan I think will not sell Nesta especially this season, Cannavaro is always linked with some club but think he will stay another year. Woodgate? not sure hopefully he will not go. If he does it should be for a lot of money.


I've read that Real Madrid will pay 15M euro for Woodgate and no more. I too like Coloccini more than Woodgate, but I think Coloccini is not european (maybe he has the italian citizenship tho) and this is the reason why Madrid is searching another defender.


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-19-2004 15:24:

They can piss off for 15M Euros.

Woodgate may be injury prone but he is worth more than twice that if he gets over his injuries.


Posted by dchaves on Aug-19-2004 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
They can piss off for 15M Euros.

Woodgate may be injury prone but he is worth more than twice that if he gets over his injuries.


Newcastle wants to sell him for 20M...


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-19-2004 15:30:

If he doesn't get over his injury problems, he isn't worth 15M euros. If he does, he is worth twice that.

Newcastle said in January when Arsenal and Man Utd were interested that we wouldn't sell for any less than 50M, but since then he has been injured for 4 months. The last time he played was when we beat Chelsea in April.


Posted by chesco on Aug-19-2004 15:31:

Woodgate isn't worth any more than 20mil euro's in my opinion.

He's to much of an injury risk.


Posted by dchaves on Aug-19-2004 15:32:

What kind of injury he has?


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-19-2004 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by chavs
What kind of injury he has?


Everything, he's always getting injured.

He tore his thigh muscle 4 months ago, it should have healed by now but it hasn't and the club are concerned about it. He has been at Newcastle for 18 months and has only played 28 games. He was injured when we bought him, but it was the last day of the January transfer window so we rushed him through a medical.

He is an amazing defender, potentially one of the best in the world IMO, IF he can get over his injuries. But at the moment that's looking like a big IF.

I could live with him leaving if we can buy a good, less injury prone, experienced centre back in the next 11 days. But that's not enough time to replace the best player we have. Many Newcastle fans wouldn't be happy with 20M euros for him, despite his injury record. That is how highly he is rated here, but I would probably take 20M euros if we could find a replacement before the end of August.


Posted by dchaves on Aug-19-2004 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
Everything, he's always getting injured.

He tore his thigh muscle 4 months ago, it should have healed by now but it hasn't and the club are concerned about it. He has been at Newcastle for 18 months and has only played 28 games. He was injured when we bought him, but it was the last day of the January transfer window so we rushed him through a medical.

He is an amazing defender, potentially one of the best in the world IMO, IF he can get over his injuries. But at the moment that's looking like a big IF.


That reminds my of Prosinecki...

But Real Madrid always does strong medical test to every player they want to buy, so I think they already know that and thinks that he is OK to play football. If he isn't we were hearing the next name in the list


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-19-2004 15:50:

It is just our luck that he will go to Madrid and never get injured again, and become one of the best centre-backs in the world, and we get only 10M pounds.

Some fans are blaming his injuries on his lifestyle, he was photographed carrying his girlfriend along a beach in Dubai when he was supposed to have a bad leg injury, a few weeks ago he had to be treated after smashing a bottle over his own head. And people have seen him in nightclubs when he's supposed to be recovering.

Basically 15M euros would be a gamble from Real Madrid's point of view, but a gamble worth taking, and I'd be gutted to see him leave for that price. If he only plays 20 games a season then you've more or less got what you paid for, if he plays a full season you have got an absolute bargain at that price.

But nobody is sure of anything yet, whether it will happen or what price it will be, or whether any players will be offered like the Michael Owen deal.


Posted by DJGolf on Aug-19-2004 16:10:

I hope it happens, because Real really needs good defenders.


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-19-2004 18:23:

From Sky Sports a few minutes ago.

quote:
Sir Bobby Robson has confirmed to Sky Sports News that Newcastle have agreed a �15 million deal to sell Jonathan Woodgate to Real Madrid.

Robson insisted he did not want to sell the England international, but confirmed the defender would be travelling to Madrid for a medical.

The former England boss claimed Real's offer was too good for Newcastle to turn down - it represents a �6 million profit on a player they signed from Leeds in January 2003.

Woodgate's time on Tyneside has been plagued by injuries and Robson admitted there was still a chance the centre back could fail his medical in Spain.

"We are going to make a handsome profit on him, but we are not interested in the profit we are just interested in the player, but it's a huge offer and the club had to consider it," Robson told Sky Sports News. "I understand that but I don't want to lose Jonathan Woodgate.

"It's a huge sum of money, but it's a huge opportunity for him, do we deny him that opportunity? There is a moral issue here.

"He has a medical to pass, I think that is first and foremost.

"If he goes there isn't one person in this building from the chairman down to the youngest fan who won't be sorry to see him go.

"But he may not go. He may not want to. He may fail his medical, I don't know.

"Players do fail medicals, there isn't any reason why he should because the injury he sustained was almost four and a half months ago and he is almost through that, he's almost ready to play.

"That would be the only element that would affect his medical test because he has no other flaws in his make-up or character or body.

"So there's a good chance, more than a good chance he will pass his medical."


Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-19-2004 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
From Sky Sports a few minutes ago.


How many more hours until the Toon Army revolts against the board? Or has it already begun in Newcastle.


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-19-2004 20:23:

Most people are pretty gutted, but we have 10 days to find a replacement. If we can get a good, proven defender in it'll take some of the pressure off. We need to bring in another top class defender and we have the money to do so, but are there any top class defenders available in Europe at the moment? And will they come to Newcastle?

If we don't get someone quality in the next 10 days then this has to be seen as a bad piece of business because I don't think we can last until January with the very average defence we have.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-19-2004 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
Most people are pretty gutted, but we have 10 days to find a replacement. If we can get a good, proven defender in it'll take some of the pressure off. We need to bring in another top class defender and we have the money to do so, but are there any top class defenders available in Europe at the moment? And will they come to Newcastle?

If we don't get someone quality in the next 10 days then this has to be seen as a bad piece of business because I don't think we can last until January with the very average defence we have.


Ok just dont go after Fabio Cannavaro, maybe getting a player like Murat Yakin from Basle. Proven centreback with good international experience. Will be cheap and could have enough money to bring in someone else. Who do you want to get?


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-19-2004 21:04:

I'd be happy if we got any good centre back as 10 days is not very long and money obviously isn't an issue now that Real Madrid have agreed to put �15M our way.

The problem is every club in Europe will know we have all that to spend and they will know we are desperate for a centre back with no time left. So any club we approach will double their asking price!


Posted by fastmp3 on Aug-20-2004 00:55:

Cannavaro is old (31) and he gest injured too often , i do not recommend him

and i don't see his style fitting with the english premiere


Posted by evil_bastard on Aug-20-2004 11:19:

Real Madrid have officially signed Jonathan Woodgate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ted/3578830.stm


Posted by dchaves on Aug-20-2004 14:09:

It seems that this year Real Madrid is going to have a good defense. I hope this means no more Raul Bravo


Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-20-2004 17:16:

Still missing a good defensive mid-fielder. Viera would have been a better buy that Owen or Woodgate.


Posted by dchaves on Aug-20-2004 21:28:

Helguera is a good defensive mid-fielder. He has played in the defense just because Real Madrid hadn't any other good center back, but he is a defensive mid-fielder.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Aug-21-2004 02:21:

quote:
Originally posted by chavs
Helguera is a good defensive mid-fielder. He has played in the defense just because Real Madrid hadn't any other good center back, but he is a defensive mid-fielder.


I take it you are a Real Madrid supporter?


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