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Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-17-2004 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
, and im sure DIddy did more than just the vocals.


im pretty sure he didnt LOL


Posted by walkindude on Aug-17-2004 13:23:

Behold, my arse.

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
I think you sound like a moron.


Just the facts....before calling me a moron, a-hole!, how about proving me wrong, wiseass!!!


Posted by Kris on Aug-17-2004 13:36:

quote:
BTW, timmyboy and BigTongue...house is not trance, but what am I saying? You probably consider all of EDM as "techno" anyways



says the man who complains pete tong made a trance track, and junkiexl ends during the buildup....





LOL


Posted by angelgirl on Aug-17-2004 13:37:

This article is pretty funny. I am not a pdiddy fan due to the fact that today's hip hop ...or should I say hip pop scene is something I try to avoid. Can't deal with the attitude and the whole bling bling package it comes in. I'd agree that most people who listen to EDM are not lovers of what is being offered up right now in the rap scene but I would say alot of that is due to the fact that the commercial stuff that is so popular right now is not really rap. Give me some old school Tribe Called Quest,WU-TANG or NWA and I would say ...yeah..I like rap and can appreciate rap talent when I hear it. Talk to me about pdiddy, nelly and others...well, I'd rather just leave that to the radio pop lemmings.

Pdiddy however is a brillant business man. Which is why him performing in Ibizia kind of surprises me. Don't really see the fit and he usually is bang on when it comes to knowing how to promote his product and where to promote it. Can't blame a guy for trying though.


Posted by jon jon on Aug-17-2004 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by walkindude
Just the facts....before calling me a moron, a-hole!, how about proving me wrong, wiseass!!!


Proving you wrong? How about that stabbing at the party at the Docks. Wasn't it Hullabaloo? I forget already.

Dude, I'm sorry for being so blunt, but equating a genre of music w/ cultural crime is ludicrous. About the equivalent of blaming Marilyn Manson for Columbine.

The majority of comments in this thread have been just as ignorant as the people we shit on for cutting up our scene. Shame.


Posted by jon jon on Aug-17-2004 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by angelgirl
old school Tribe Called Quest,WU-TANG or NWA and I would


couldn't agree more...

the Roots, J5, fugees, Ghostface, and to be honest I've always loved Diddy circa 1997.


Posted by timmyboy on Aug-17-2004 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP

BTW, timmyboy and BigTongue...house is not trance, but what am I saying? You probably consider all of EDM as "techno" anyways.

PD is quite the artist, and EVERY FUCKING ONE of you rocked your face off to Let's Get Ill at least once, but go ahead, hate all you want now.


where does it say who was spinning at the party? and thanx ill go listen to some Danny D right now


Posted by timmyboy on Aug-17-2004 13:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
yea, theres no trance at space, house and tech only.


well ok my bad but in my defence ive never been anywhere past buffalo in the states


Posted by StereoPrincess on Aug-17-2004 14:20:

quote:
Police board P Diddy's yacht

Spanish police boarded P Diddy's yacht moored off Ibiza after neighbours complained of loud music.

Six officers boarded the yacht after complaints about noise, according to eyewitnesses.

"They asked him to be quiet. He didn't respond to their satisfaction," a source told the New York Daily News.

The rapper is currently holidaying on the Spanish island.


Posted by walkindude on Aug-17-2004 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
Proving you wrong? How about that stabbing at the party at the Docks. Wasn't it Hullabaloo? I forget already.

Dude, I'm sorry for being so blunt, but equating a genre of music w/ cultural crime is ludicrous. About the equivalent of blaming Marilyn Manson for Columbine.

The majority of comments in this thread have been just as ignorant as the people we shit on for cutting up our scene. Shame.


Whatever!! If your telling me that showing guns and talking about killing and being in gangs in your music video is not going to have an adverse effect on kids who listen to this stuff then people are just being ignorant, with freedom of speech comes responsibility aswell. Furthermore, I am not saying all blame should be put on the artists who produce "GANGSTA RAP", society as a whole is responsible. But parents and society cannot compete against the constant message from these artists. (I am sounding like my parents!!!)

p.s PD was also involved in a club shooting not too long ago. If he was at fault, I dont know and I dont care. But you have to agree that the elements are there and if you wanna ignore them so be it. Its a free country...


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-17-2004 14:35:

To put it in the form of a university exam question:

Hip hop is to violence as:

a) President Bush is to fear mongering
b) Electronic music is to drug consumption
c) Orko is to bedwetting
d) Trance Addict is to complaining
e) all of the above


Posted by jon jon on Aug-17-2004 14:39:

quote:
Originally posted by walkindude
society as a whole is responsible. But parents and society cannot compete against the constant message from these artists.


Garfield, I give up, you win. Rap music is to blame for crime. I am the ignorant one, I will spend the rest of my life praying for all those "rappers" to quit with their relentless attack on socio-cultural values.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Aug-17-2004 14:40:

he he.

since when are we talking about gansta rap. have any of you ever heard p.diddy? he is so far from gangsta rap as you can get.

i am surprised that people booed him because obviously they knew that he was going to be at that club. if you don't like p. diddy then don't go that that club on that night.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Aug-17-2004 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by walkindude
But parents and society cannot compete against the constant message from these artists.


i don't know about your parents but my parents can compete just fine. the first thing was probably that i wasn't even listening to too much music or watching tv, instead i was playing outside. by the time you are actually exposed to music and these artist, you should already have moral values.


Posted by jon jon on Aug-17-2004 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
since when are we talking about gansta rap. have any of you ever heard p.diddy? he is so far from gangsta rap as you can get.


just goes to show the lack of "rap knowledge" being spewed in this thread.

"P Diddy is a gangster and there are guns in New York, therefore rap is terrorism. Bin Laden likes rap!"


Posted by StereoPrincess on Aug-17-2004 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
"P Diddy is a gangster and there are guns in New York, therefore rap is terrorism. Bin Laden likes rap!"


does bin laden like rap rap or just regular rap?


ps. i like Nas.


Posted by EvilDust on Aug-17-2004 15:55:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
does bin laden like rap rap or just regular rap?


ps. i like Nas.


According to this, Bin Laden likes Pet Shop Boys

http://www.buttafly.com/originals/friendster3.php


Posted by starsearcher on Aug-17-2004 16:02:

I love the PSB

By the way...your argument doesn't stand very well Halo...and I can easily prove it by recent attacks on the black community by the legendary Mr. Cosby...and if you need direct quotes about what he said I can easily find that for you

Music and that specific culture that is tied to that music and portrayed in the videos has a HUGE influenece on kids today...if you think it doesn't you're just being naive...

*EDIT*

However P. Diddy is far from it...I have a lot of respect for him cause' as many already mentioned he's a brilliant business man and extremely hard working guy


Posted by jon jon on Aug-17-2004 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
By the way...your argument doesn't stand very well Halo...and I can easily prove it by recent attacks on the black community by the legendary Mr. Cosby...and if you need direct quotes about what he said I can easily find that for you


Fuck off!? HAHAH Are you for real? Bill Cosby making generalizations about the urban african american youth of today MEANS THAT RAP LEADS TO VIOLENCE!?!?!

Last I checked he was a god damn comedian not a fucking sociologist. The content in this thread is laughable.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Aug-17-2004 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
Last I checked he was a god damn comedian not a fucking sociologist.


Woooooooooohooooohooohoooooooooooooooooo!

Man, I nearly wet myself...


Posted by walkindude on Aug-17-2004 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
Fuck off!? HAHAH Are you for real? Bill Cosby making generalizations about the urban african american youth of today MEANS THAT RAP LEADS TO VIOLENCE!?!?!

Last I checked he was a god damn comedian not a fucking sociologist. The content in this thread is laughable.


Who made you the "FU_CKING SOCIOLOGIST"??..... dont answer that!!!


Posted by Kytracid on Aug-17-2004 17:07:

Some of the best comedians in the world are actually very astute social commentators. They have to be, to find the humourous in the everyday things that most of us overlook. George Carlin and Chris Rock are just a few examples. But I digress...

Puffy getting booed of stage doesn't really come as any suprise when you recall that a few years ago the same thing happened to Armin van Helden when he experimented with hip hop during one of his sets. And AVH is actually a well respected house producers, so -- i guess all this really points to is that clubbers on the isle of Ibiza don't want to be exposed to Hip hop or Rap, when they've paid good money to get into clubs like Space or Pacha. They are comfortable with techno/house/trance/baleric beats and aren't really going to appreciate a change from the norm -- even if it comes from a superstar (if that's what he is) like Puffy. Fair enough, I say. Imagine Tiesto spinning cheesy trance at a rap concert. Forget about booing him offstage, he'd probably get capped by an irate hip hopper.( sterotypical or wishful thinking ? - i'll let you be the judge )

Puffy probably over stayed his welcome on stage. I don't imagine one or two songs would have been a big deal (with minimal vocals i'll hasten to add)...but if Puffy thought he was performing in centrel park, then i'm glad he got heckled off stage.


Posted by Orko on Aug-17-2004 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
To put it in the form of a university exam question:

Hip hop is to violence as:

a) President Bush is to fear mongering
b) Electronic music is to drug consumption
c) Orko is to bedwetting
d) Trance Addict is to complaining
e) all of the above


i feel so special!!!
bed wetting is no cause for laughter my friend, it is a serious condition


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-17-2004 17:57:


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-17-2004 17:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
bed wetting is no cause for laughter my friend, it is a serious condition


Especially if you use electric blankets

LOL!


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