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Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-17-2004 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
no YOU are... stop colonizing their women


your bored at work sig is racist and stereotyping asians


Posted by igottaknow on Aug-17-2004 16:01:

Drink lots of coffee and smoke cigarettes.


Posted by trewqy on Aug-17-2004 16:32:

I've been pumping iron for the past few months..just when i realised i only grew a cm .I only do bench presses and dumbell lifting.Just to bulk up my upperbody. Basically any weight training that occupies a large amount of legs usage..i totally avoid.

When I just turned 17(early 2003) I was around 176..now i'm about 181(late 2004)I grew 5 cm... in 1 and a half years.Is that good?

I've totally quit alcohol for now(at least until i totally stop growing taller) cause doctors says it will help decrease ur growth rate..I sleep quite a lot.Sometimes do jumping jacks when I wake up(does this really help?)I even sit with a better posture just to improve my spinal chord.A bad spine= lose a few inches in terms of growth. And yeah I do drink milk almost everyday.


Posted by th0m on Aug-17-2004 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Prove it. Where are the studies done that show this?

http://www.trulyhuge.com/news/tips63iq.htm
http://bodybuilding.about.com/cs/be...untedgrowth.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/...lish_473125.htm
http://www.healthquoteplus.com/generic.html?pid=13


Only one of those four links you gave can be regarded a credible source.


Posted by Radagast on Aug-17-2004 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by th0m
Only one of those four links you gave can be regarded a credible source.


UH OH!


Posted by th0m on Aug-17-2004 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
UH OH!



Posted by Spin Doctor on Aug-18-2004 01:16:

Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by trewqy
Issit really genes.My bro's 6'3.(around 192 cm)I'm about 6'(181)


As someone who is under 6 foot, be f�cking happy with what you�ve got!


Posted by spec on Aug-18-2004 01:17:

Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by trewqy
Issit really genes.My bro's 6'3.(around 192 cm)I'm about 6'(181)

I'm 18,I wanna grow taller.my growth spurt was around 17.Does playing Basketball really helps?I usually play football(soccer).

I wanna grow another 2-3 inches.I'm going to the gym about 2 times a week nowadays, but I'm afraid this might hinder my growth rate.Is this true?


Are you really this stupid?

Nothing is going to make you grow taller.


Posted by Arbiter on Aug-18-2004 02:48:

I'd recommend lots of dairy and meat, but at your age it's unlikely to have much of an effect, if any.

I can't believe there are so many people who still believe that old wives' tale about weight training causing stunted growth. The theory used to go that stress on the skeletal system caused by the weight could prematurely close the epiphyses, thereby reducing growth.

The problem with that theory, though, is that everyday activities like running or jumping impose equal or greater loads on the skeleton. For example, the impact force of jumping and landing exceeds, on average, 4-5 times bodyweight. So unless you're squatting 4 times your bodyweight, you're more likely to stunt your growth playing basketball than by lifting weights. Of course, there's no evidence that the skeletal structure is incapable of handling that amount of stress.

The only way sufficient pressure could be exerted on the skeleton to pose any risk whatsoever would be improper technique with very high weight which would result in an injury. Children are at slightly higher risk of injury, especially young children. However, even in the result of injury there is no recorded evidence of stunted growth. Do your research and stop spreading these outrageous rumors:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...splay&DB=pubmed


Posted by igottaknow on Aug-18-2004 04:12:

Re: Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by spec
Are you really this stupid?

Nothing is going to make you grow taller.

Come on, what about drinking a tall beer when ever you get the chance?
I've haven't noticed any results yet but, its too early to tell maybe in 10 yrs I'll know definitively.


Posted by osuracnaes on Aug-18-2004 05:25:

I think growth hormones given during early teen years can help a little.

But you really don't have to worry - 5'6" here, 20yo. Height doesn't bother me. Now if I could just get my weight above 45 kilos.....


Posted by -=M=- on Aug-18-2004 05:35:

Re: Re: Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast




As much research as you've obviously put into this you blatantly have not idea what you're talking about. Actually you see a lot of muscular men very tall. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lou Ferrigno, most Heayweight pro Bodybuilders, most NBA Players, Most NFL Wide Recievers...blah blah. If your expert observation is even true (which I doubt), it could only be because it's easier for short people to look muscular in the first place. Their limbs are shorter and they need less total muscle mass to look equally as muscular as a taller person.


ok and at what age did any of these athletes start pumping iron? and how tall is arnie? pfft

pumping iron in your upper body wont stunt your growth because the length of your arms doesnt mean jack and your back has the padding and henceforth the growth plates on the end of each bone dont fuse. the major part of growth is in 3 three major bones in each leg. if you start doing too much weight centered on these parts of your body eg squats and leg presses... your growth plate WILL fuse. other things that can cause stunted growth are injuries that crack or fracture the growth plate. i broke my ankle at the age of 17 which cracked the growth plate. luckily for me i only grew about 5cm in the last 3 years before i stopped growing however one of my bones in my lower right leg is approx .5cm shorter than the other which does feel kinda weird.

and you asked what research i did? i had proper consultations with my doctor after i broke this ankle and he has had a proper medical schooling. what research did you do? think of nba basketballers who arent tanked very much at all and big old arnie who started his steroid fuelled bodybuilding at the age of 20

ffs


Posted by -=M=- on Aug-18-2004 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by osuracnaes
I think growth hormones given during early teen years can help a little.

But you really don't have to worry - 5'6" here, 20yo. Height doesn't bother me. Now if I could just get my weight above 45 kilos.....


growth hormone does not stimulate bone growth to my understanding


Posted by Radagast on Aug-18-2004 06:18:

Re: Re: Re: Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
ok and at what age did any of these athletes start pumping iron? and how tall is arnie? pfft


In their high school years. They're not in the pro's because they just started playing football and working out in their 20's. Arnie is 6'2". Lou Ferrigno is 6'4".

quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
if you start doing too much weight centered on these parts of your body eg squats and leg presses... your growth plate WILL fuse.


Says you.

quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
and you asked what research i did? i had proper consultations with my doctor after i broke this ankle and he has had a proper medical schooling.


So your doctor told you that weightlifting stunts growth?


quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
arnie who started his steroid fuelled bodybuilding at the age of 20

ffs


15


Posted by Arbiter on Aug-18-2004 06:37:

Re: Re: Re: Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
ok and at what age did any of these athletes start pumping iron? and how tall is arnie? pfft

pumping iron in your upper body wont stunt your growth because the length of your arms doesnt mean jack and your back has the padding and henceforth the growth plates on the end of each bone dont fuse. the major part of growth is in 3 three major bones in each leg. if you start doing too much weight centered on these parts of your body eg squats and leg presses... your growth plate WILL fuse.


No, no. Three times no!

That's an interesting theory except for the fact that aerobic exercise such as running or playing basketball exerts more weight on your legs than squats or leg presses for all but the most elite weightlifters.

Don't believe it? Go buy a force plate for $200 and jump on it and watch as your legs receive 4x your bodyweight in pressure. It's simple physics really, the acceleration of your bodyweight downwards is obviously going to create greater force than your original mass.

But the only way that you're going to stunt your growth is by applying enough pressure to injure yourself, because pressure doesn't have anything to do with ossification. It is the process of calcification of the hyaline cartilage between the epiphyses and the diaphysis that limits bone growth. The calcification of the hyaline cartilage is governed primarily by the amount of cartilage produced during secondary ossification - it has nothing to do with pressure exerted on the skeletal structure and even if it did it would be jumping, not weight training, which would lead to stunted growth. The only way to stunt your growth by lifting weights is to cause an injury in the area which diverts resources away from the production of osteoblasts which deposit the cartilage in the epiphyseal plate.


Posted by -=M=- on Aug-18-2004 06:41:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
The only way to stunt your growth by lifting weights is to cause an injury in the area which diverts resources away from the production of osteoblasts which deposit the cartilage in the epiphyseal plate.


yes, the growth plate, and an injury is caused how? by excerting too much weight on it.


Posted by Arbiter on Aug-18-2004 06:49:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
yes, the growth plate, and an injury is caused how? by excerting too much weight on it.


Right, so as long as your exercise proper training technique you have nothing to worry about.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-18-2004 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
when you are sleeping get your brother to tie your legs to the bottom of the bed and your arms to the top as far stretched out as they go and sleep like that. the next day you will have to do it again but you will notice you are stretched out more.


wont that just make u lanky?

he'll end up with oversized arms and legs


Posted by -=M=- on Aug-18-2004 07:49:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to grow taller

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Right, so as long as your exercise proper training technique you have nothing to worry about.


exactly


Posted by mndeg on Aug-18-2004 11:15:

eh? five times a day?


Posted by Sexomatic on Aug-18-2004 14:41:

lol most of these posts are useless, im 6 feet tall and growing ..working out is essential for your body u dont wonna be 6'3 and skinny ;you rather be 6' and built


Posted by trewqy on Aug-18-2004 15:50:

Look, I know 1 guy whos in his 20s who trained his legs with this gym machine(u know,the one where u sit and push the weights up with ur legs,no, not leg curls), he lost 2 inches in height apparently because of doing too much of that exercise. I mean ffs, 2 inches in height! Thats why I'm a little skeptic. I dont know which fact/myth to believe.


Posted by A.J. on Aug-18-2004 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by trewqy
I've been pumping iron for the past few months..just when i realised i only grew a cm .I only do bench presses and dumbell lifting.Just to bulk up my upperbody. Basically any weight training that occupies a large amount of legs usage..i totally avoid.

When I just turned 17(early 2003) I was around 176..now i'm about 181(late 2004)I grew 5 cm... in 1 and a half years.Is that good?

I've totally quit alcohol for now(at least until i totally stop growing taller) cause doctors says it will help decrease ur growth rate..I sleep quite a lot.Sometimes do jumping jacks when I wake up(does this really help?)I even sit with a better posture just to improve my spinal chord.A bad spine= lose a few inches in terms of growth. And yeah I do drink milk almost everyday.
Do some of you people seriously think that you are going to grow taller by pumping iron?



You don't stop growing until you are about 21. This obviously varies from person to person. It seems that some people are making assumptions of causation based on correlation, and they are ignoring the rational answers.

ie "I have been pumping iron and now i have grown taller" =/=
Pumping iron caused me to grow taller. Just because they happened around the same time, it does not mean that one caused the other.


[/introductory logic from 1st year philosphy]


Posted by igottaknow on Aug-18-2004 16:54:

Get the full body version of the Swedish Penis Pump enlarger.

*pump *pump


Posted by th0m on Aug-18-2004 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Sexomatic
lol most of these posts are useless, im 6 feet tall and growing ..working out is essential for your body u dont wonna be 6'3 and skinny ;you rather be 6' and built


Essential? Gimme a break.


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