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Depends on what they listen to already. I'd rather introduce them to electronica as a whole with a few songs from all the main genres, and let them pick where to go from there.

When I have someone ask if they can borrow some music, I usually mix it with the "classic" CD's - (Tiesto - Search for Sunrise series, Magik + PvD's Seven Ways, Oakenfold's Tranceport and maybe some Robert Miles: Dreamland along with Trance Nation 1-5). If they like those, I'll introduce them into the none mainstream trance stuff.

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Originally posted by TweeK I have found out personaly that people who like rock/metal always seem to enjoy DNB.Mostly Dieselboy and Bad Company.They also like The Crystal Method (i really dont know what EDM gendre they fit into thought) As for rap lovers But this tracks might work for them: Bt-Knowlege of Self Bt- Madskillz-Mic Checha Roni size - brown paper bag (vocal mix)(its DNB by the way) The Crystal Method - Trickshot

The Crystal Method are Electronica but depends on what album. Their first album is Electronica but later albums became sort of a Big Beat/Break Beats style. Cirrus is recommended for people that like TCM.

Brown Paper Bag is a good choice.

Would anyone recommend the Chemical Brothers as a start?

That's a good start for Electronica but the question remains:

What are good tracks/sets for n00bs to trance and electronic dance music?

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 What are good tracks/sets for n00bs to trance and electronic dance music?

Good question. Big question. Junction points and transitioning beams depend on what music someone already likes. Personalized recommendations are a must.

If I had to generalize, I'd have to go for the less-repetitive stuff with big riffs, catchy hooks, and hummable melodies that gets to the point fast and is suited for -- or close to -- radio airplay in a 3-4 minute format. As opposed to a drawn out 8-minute club opus.

If an artist from another field does a collaboration with someone in electronic music, it helps bridge the gap. For example, 'N Sync's "Pop" helped introduce fans of the "boy band" to esteemed producer BT (who in turn contributed vocals for Tiesto). Or, James Holden's remix of Britney Spears crosses that perilous chasm. Linkin Park cites Aphex Twin as an influence, as does Outkast, and Timbaland has definite acid house squelches in his tracks -- as well as stuttered beat arrangements not unlike drum 'n' bass. Madonna has helped get a lot of people interested because of her collaborations with the likes of William Orbit, Guy Sigsworth, Mirwais. Not to mention being remixed by Orbital and more.

It's all about looking for the connections and relations and travelling onwards and upwards.

If someone has a short attention span, check out Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Dance Music, complete with many sound samples for easy access:

http://www.di.fm/edmguide/

Wheeeeee! Fun!!

Speaking of, some of the nicest music is decades old. No kidding. We stand on the shoulders of giants and there is plenty to discover behind in the timeline. I've got an article here that may be of interest to you:

http://torley.blog-city.com/read/781206.htm

Cheers.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 What about like the Global Underground or Ministry of Sound comps?

AHHHHHH!!! Brilliant, I just read this and it uncovered a new line of thought I was gonna say to you but was previously buried. Here goes:

I like the fast-n-easy approach... how about you compile your personal favorites, tracks by various artists that got *you* excited about electronic music, and give that as a GIFT to a friend or listen to it on a "road trip" and see what happens? One of those collections with many tracks -- or excerpts, even -- in a short span of time are good because it will help keep your friend's attention and sensory inputs on edge.

I'll post my own personal example... hold on . . . I'm going to dig up a relic.

*alternatively, a Ministry of Sound compilation, like one of the Annuals, helps to bring someone up to speed on the popular clubbing scene.

As for what's a good PC prog, there are many... they go by names like Mixmeister, Mixvibes, PCDJ, DJ Mix, and many variations on that:

http://www.audiotoolsdirect.com/DJ_and_Mixing/

You'll have to see what works best for you -- there must be a review roundup somewhere to facilitate things. Oh, check the DJ Booth forum on TranceAddict!

And here goes: the following is a tracklisting of a compilation CD I made five years back or so of ch00ns that got me really enthused and passionate about electronic music. I'm sooo excited!!! PARTY LIKE IT'S 1999!!!


"UNDER THE INFLUENCE"
01. Orbital - Lush 3-1
02. The Crystal Method - Busy Child
03. Goldie - Timeless
04. Squarepusher - Come On My Selector
05. Fluke - Atom Bomb
06. Deep Forest - Marta's Song
07. Ace of Base - The Sign
08. Moby - Shining
09. Orbital - Sad But True
10. Kraftwerk - The Model
11. Aphex Twin - Girl/Boy Song
12. Yellow Magic Orchestra - Technopolis
13. Photek Ni-Ten-Ichi-Ryu
14. Ally McBeal Theme (some housey remix, was a big Flockhart fan)
15. The Chemical Brothers - One Too Many Mornings
16. Enigma - Return To Innocence
17. Robert Miles - Children
18. Aphex Twin - If It Really Is Me
19. Aphex Twin - On
20. Leftfield - Original
21. Josh Wink - Simple Man
22. Vangelis - Blade Runner (end titles)
23. Madonna - The Power Of Good-Bye
24. Love Inc. - You're A Superstar

no trance there at all

I don't want to go off topic too much but what would be a great pc app/prog for me to use to do some mixing? 'Cause I like your idea of getting the best of what I might like and throw some tracks together. kinda like a garage band thing in a way.

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Originally posted by aspergian AHHHHHH!!! Brilliant, I just read this and it uncovered a new line of thought I was gonna say to you but was previously buried. Here goes: I like the fast-n-easy approach... how about you compile your personal favorites, tracks by various artists that got *you* excited about electronic music, and give that as a GIFT to a friend or listen to it on a "road trip" and see what happens? One of those collections with many tracks -- or excerpts, even -- in a short span of time are good because it will help keep your friend's attention and sensory inputs on edge. I'll post my own personal example... hold on . . . I'm going to dig up a relic. *alternatively, a Ministry of Sound compilation, like one of the Annuals, helps to bring someone up to speed on the popular clubbing scene.

That was a great list you just had but we want to get people on Trance firstly and EDM secondary.

AHHHHHH! Panic! Panic! !@#$ DOES NOT COMPUTE!

I had other trancecentric ones...

but then I looked at them,

and it was basically duplicated by the following:


Various - Ibiza: History Of Trance
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?sea...nce&page=search


So since you're starting with trance, I myself can say I relate to a lot of those tracks.

Sorry about that, associative thinking trains run fast.

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Originally posted by mndeg no trance there at all

Not even Roberto Concina? :*(

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 That was a great list you just had but we want to get people on Trance firstly and EDM secondary.

Oh I get it. Well first show them Ian Van Dahl - Castles In The Sky. If they don't like that they won't like...trance. If they like it just bombard them with any other...trance...track you have. It's not quite rocket science but it will do the trick.

Good idea.

Unless they happen to be a Stockhausen, Mingus, or Phish fan. Then you've got a problem

Yeah like phisheads are gonna change. The band just broke up recently it's not like they're banging at the door to get into Space or Crobar or something like that.

Try to think of making up huge lists. One song is not going to do the culture justice.

For someone new to electronica, the first artist I'd introduce him or her to would most definitely have to be BT. I still have a hard time deciding till this day whether ESCM or MISL is the better of his two best albums. The man has taken this and that from so many genres and fused them together that he practically touches on every genre of not just electronica, but all of music when it comes to his productions. Because BT in his productions is so diverse I'd probably wanna show said newbie that like BTs productions EDM is diverse as well. From there it'd probably be the best of the best in terms of recorded livesets to showcase awesome mixing and track selection which are other bigs in the EDM scene. The Magik Series comes to mind.

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Originally posted by bruddahmanmatt For someone new to electronica, the first artist I'd introduce him or her to would most definitely have to be BT. I still have a hard time deciding till this day whether ESCM or MISL is the better of his two best albums. The man has taken this and that from so many genres and fused them together that he practically touches on every genre of not just electronica, but all of music when it comes to his productions. Because BT in his productions is so diverse I'd probably wanna show said newbie that like BTs productions EDM is diverse as well. From there it'd probably be the best of the best in terms of recorded livesets to showcase awesome mixing and track selection which are other bigs in the EDM scene. The Magik Series comes to mind.

I concur with your spirited passion for diversity!

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Originally posted by aspergian I concur with your spirited passion for diversity!

Why thank you. The way I see it, the more the merrier. More diversity means more listeners, which means more clubs, which means more parties, which means more good times for everyone. w00t.

Ferry Corsten would be good for someone that is new to trance.

PVD of course

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Originally posted by isoterra You kidding? I would say that was FAR from representative of trance... it's just a simple commercial dance tune. Also I dunno how big it was over in the states but it got #1 over here back in 99, just about everyone's heard of it... and most of them aren't trance fans, go figure.

9 P.M. was a big hit in dance music over here in the U.S., but it wasn't famous to the people who didn't listen to trance. Most people in U.S. don't even know what Trance music is. It's not Europe.

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Originally posted by tribu Suprisingly good list here. I might give them some Nick Warren instead of Astral Projection though. For girls, PVD, Armin, and Ferry Corsten (The last 2 with pictures attached).

lol, Pauls not the prettiest item in the book is he, then again nor is Tiesto, but i'd sling them straight in at the deep end with Tiesto. But i think Ferry is an excellent bridge between popular stuff, and the better of the trance world.

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Originally posted by bruddahmanmatt For someone new to electronica, the first artist I'd introduce him or her to would most definitely have to be BT. I still have a hard time deciding till this day whether ESCM or MISL is the better of his two best albums. The man has taken this and that from so many genres and fused them together that he practically touches on every genre of not just electronica, but all of music when it comes to his productions. Because BT in his productions is so diverse I'd probably wanna show said newbie that like BTs productions EDM is diverse as well. From there it'd probably be the best of the best in terms of recorded livesets to showcase awesome mixing and track selection which are other bigs in the EDM scene. The Magik Series comes to mind.

You got a good point there. BT is has a range of styles that seem like they cater more for the mainstream.

Kind of like Oakenfold. To me he (Oakey) used to be good in his heyday but once he went commercial it just didn't keep me. An artist can go commercial but when they style changes for the worst in that newer crowd it just isn't the same.

And going commercial isn't a good thing too. So many pop artists come and go out there in the real world it's not funny.

It would have to be the XPander EP. Sasha's original stuff is amazing for melodies, and that's what most non-trancers look for right away. There's so much going on in the music that its almost classical.

Anyway, it was my first taste, and it reeled me in.

Armin v. Buuren

Ok, how would I introduce someone to trance?
Well, when I have had to do this, the first person I recommend and talk about is Armin Van Buuren, for me he is and will be always the best, there are no bad tracks, sessions or mixes of him in the last 6 years (since I have known him).
Nevertheless, another times what I have done with some friends is to play "Ti�sto in concert" on my Dvd... It is a good way to show them how is a good party and what Trance is...

Whenever someone comes to me wanting trance so they can explore the genre, I immediately let them listen to Solar Stone - Seven Cities. Since it's such a classic and a well-respected tune, and such a good one, it never fails to please. From there, I can drop them with some old Tiesto sets or lend them Summerbreeze or Magik 3.

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