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| Originally posted by Crazy Serb You said it... Canada may be way ahead of some European countries technologically and even economically, but that's why Europe is light years ahead of Canada socially. They know how to enjoy life... Well, I went out to the "supposedly" expensive beach resorts, places filled with tourists, the most expensive clubs in my country, and to be quite honest with you not only have I not paid cover charge one single time but I haven't spent more than 10-15 euros per night for drinks and whatever else. And no, in most of those places there was no last call  And don't get me wrong, I'm positive all the time, from the moment I wake up in the morning til the moment I crash in my bed after a good night out. But I also feel a lot of bad attitudes in the city, negativity, all kinds of bad vibes, and that can bring you down sometimes... in Europe, it was totally oposite. |
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| Originally posted by ShadoWolf I agree with everything you wrote... ..hey you should give me tips for when I go to Belgrade next year |
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| Originally posted by Crazy Serb give me a call once you're there (I'm there next summer, 100%) so we can enjoy the ladies together |
You kinky sunovabitch 
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| Originally posted by Crazy Serb Tips? There are two... first, get ready for some of the most beautiful and most outgoing girls in the world, and second, give me a call once you're there (I'm there next summer, 100%) so we can enjoy the ladies together |
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| Originally posted by ShadoWolf I think it goes like this: 1. Hungarian 2. Serb 3. Czech but maybe you can convince me otherwise.. |
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Colum.../27/558193.html
Toronto slides off the A-list
Now dirtier and more dangerous
By JOHN DERRINGER -- For the Toronto Sun
Last year, the city endured one if its worst summers in recent memory. SARS was at the heart of it, but I'm not so sure it would've been much better off had the nasty virus not swept the city.
You see, things aren't a heckuva lot better this year. Ask anyone in the beer business, the restaurant/bar business, or just about any tourist-related enterprise. They may blame the weather (agreed, it has sucked), but our problems, I fear, run a lot deeper than that.
There used to be two things about this city that made visitors (particularly those from the States) choose Toronto as a vacation or convention destination: It was safe and clean.
Today, it is neither.
Until the early '90s, Toronto was an oasis, a major city not yet infected with the urban decay so evident south of the border. Then, a funny thing happened. Actually, two funny things happened.
Take Cleveland
While Toronto started to show signs of big-city reality, many American cities started to clean up their acts.
Take Cleveland. (There would have been a joke there 20 years ago, but it no longer applies). The city based an entire entertainment district around Jacobs Field, home of the Indians, and, along with other various urban renewal projects, dragged itself out of the quagmire it had inhabited for decades.
New York City is another example of the change that has taken place in urban America. Although many are tempted to compare Toronto with New York, the comparisons are unwarranted and unfair. New York is, well, New York. And it's like nowhere else in the world.
Twenty years ago, going to New York was like going to Beirut. You went to the Big Apple expecting to get mugged. If you got out with all your possessions, the trip was a success.
All that changed with Rudolph Giuliani. He cleaned up the city through a crackdown on crime, including the most minor offences. Panhandling, burglary and loitering laws were strictly enforced, and the law-and-order campaign worked its way up the crime chain, to the point where the murder rate reached a 40-year low.
It's a pretty simple but effective strategy. Prosecute the small crimes and the bigger ones will take care of themselves. The fact that New York has rebounded so well from the tragedy of 9/11 is a testament to Giuliani's principles.
I never thought I'd say it, but I feel safer in Times Square than I do at Yonge and Dundas.
Toronto Police are unable to enforce loitering and panhandling laws, and somehow our local politicians have put the rights of street people and petty criminals above the good of the city as a whole. The city core looks filthy, and with all due respect to the Downtown Business Association, the new Dundas Square has got "white elephant" written all over it.
Anachronistic eyesore
A once-bustling theatre business has hit hard times, our state-of-the-art-in-1989 stadium is an anachronistic eyesore, the formerly vital Molson Indy is on its last legs and with episodes like the Hummer shooting on the weekend, there is no feeling of personal safety downtown anymore.
Toronto simply doesn't have the natural, architectural or cultural beauty necessary to get it through a time like this. Vancouver is more beautiful. Montreal has a deeper cultural and culinary life. What once separated Toronto from the rest of North America's cities no longer applies. We were the safest, cleanest big city on the continent, and we were a city on the rise. In 2004, Toronto's regarded universally as a city in decline.
And until that decline is halted, expect a lot more summers like this one.
That's a great article and I agree! Toronto has been sliding down drastically ever since I moved here...maybe it's all my fault
I think we fell way down on the list of the best cities in the world too (UN)
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Montreal has a deeper cultural and culinary life.
^^^ I haven't been to Montreal yet but that's what I'm hearing all the time. I also wouldn't be surprised at all if it is true 
no wonder Montreal is the most European-like city in North America... the only problem is that it's got even colder weather than Toronto does, and I can barely stand this weather here.
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| Originally posted by Crazy Serb no wonder Montreal is the most European-like city in North America... the only problem is that it's got even colder weather than Toronto does, and I can barely stand this weather here. |
I think society is catching up with itself. We are reaping the rewards of the politically correct, complain about everything, but sweep it under thr rug mentality.
Until we have the balls to take on the issues the way they need to be handled we will further sink into oblivion.
Cut the crap, call a spade a spade and lets deal with the homeless, poverty, and bloody takeover of condominiums.
How many tourist ventures, historic buildings, nightclubs and restaurants have we lost recently to condos?
The city needs to get with it and start opening casinos and maybe even starting a properly zoned entertainment district like they did in Cleveland (the flats).
the hostage incident today is yet another blow to Toronto
actually cost of living is really really really really fuckin inflated in toronto. ud be surprised what u can get in the states with the same money
or anywhere else for that matter...
im sick of canada anyways...sitting under the table fighting to eat the US's scraps..i want my seat at the dinner table
Everyone i know seems to be leaving this city. Mostly they are headed for BC. I think this city is in a terrible crisis. I first started to notice decline in 2000 and its been headed downhill since. At this rate we will be Detroit within 10 years.
Somewhere along the way the Politically correct paradigm of thinking caught up with the real world and we are now reaping the rewards.
China is the future
Canada (and the rest of the West) is dying...but Canada is dying faster than the rest of the West
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 Everyone i know seems to be leaving this city. Mostly they are headed for BC. I think this city is in a terrible crisis. I first started to notice decline in 2000 and its been headed downhill since. At this rate we will be Detroit within 10 years. Somewhere along the way the Politically correct paradigm of thinking caught up with the real world and we are now reaping the rewards. |
China's oil comsumption expanded the entire size of the US in ONE YEAR!
This is why they say the gas prices have risen so steeply.
Imagine how much construction must be goin on in China! Imagine the multi-millionaires being made daily there. The money to be made right now is definately in China!
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 Everyone i know seems to be leaving this city. Mostly they are headed for BC. I think this city is in a terrible crisis. I first started to notice decline in 2000 and its been headed downhill since. At this rate we will be Detroit within 10 years. Somewhere along the way the Politically correct paradigm of thinking caught up with the real world and we are now reaping the rewards. |
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| Originally posted by Vivid Boy HAHAHAHA you cant even compare toronto to detroit..u cant even compare toronto to fuckin washington DC. u cant compare toronto to any ghetto in the US...i think u need to take a trip to the US and walk outside on the real mean streets..toronto is pussy compared to these places..u have no clue....toronto has got to be one of the safest capital cities in this world! dont ever do that again..u sound like a by that doesnt leave the city much...media blows things out of proportion...theres prolly 10x more murders per week in detroit and they dont even talk abt them in the news cause they happen soo much..this shit doesnt happen much in toronto so ur gonna hear abt it.. |
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| Originally posted by Vivid Boy HAHAHAHA you cant even compare toronto to detroit..u cant even compare toronto to fuckin washington DC. u cant compare toronto to any ghetto in the US...i think u need to take a trip to the US and walk outside on the real mean streets..toronto is pussy compared to these places..u have no clue....toronto has got to be one of the safest capital cities in this world! dont ever do that again..u sound like a by that doesnt leave the city much...media blows things out of proportion...theres prolly 10x more murders per week in detroit and they dont even talk abt them in the news cause they happen soo much..this shit doesnt happen much in toronto so ur gonna hear abt it.. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 Um i used to drive down Gratiot twice a week on the way to record time. I know all about Detroit and its ghetto ways. I never said Toronto was like it presently but we are sure on the way to becoming it. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 China's oil comsumption expanded the entire size of the US in ONE YEAR! This is why they say the gas prices have risen so steeply. Imagine how much construction must be goin on in China! Imagine the multi-millionaires being made daily there. The money to be made right now is definately in China! |
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