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Posted by XxGrOoVeERICxX on Sep-06-2004 19:43:

Road Trip!


Posted by arturob on Sep-06-2004 19:46:





not good...


Posted by DarkAngel on Sep-06-2004 19:50:


Posted by XxGrOoVeERICxX on Sep-06-2004 19:50:

Have we not suffered enough already?



Guess not.....


Posted by LiquidX on Sep-06-2004 20:00:

quote:
Hurricanes' destruction spawns renewal



MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- Along with their destructive force, hurricanes can have beneficial effects as part of the rhythm of nature.

Storms that erode beaches, uproot trees and flatten wildlife habitats may also refresh waterways, revive dry areas and bulk up barrier islands with redistributed sand.

"What we see is the damage it does to our structures, but it can actually renew areas," said Karen Westphal, a coastal scientist at Louisiana State University's School of the Coast and Environment.

Hurricane Frances could help the Everglades, which is already undergoing a $8.4 billion environmental restoration.

"Hurricanes are a vital part of the natural process," said Nick Auman, an aquatic ecologist at Everglades National Park. Hurricane Frances may serve "as a flushing-out mechanism in areas of the Everglades where sediment has accumulated on the bottom of waterways."

Frances may help eliminate some invasive exotic plants in the area, such as Australian pines, but also could end up helping others if high wind disperses seeds to new places.

However, human changes to the Everglades may prevent it from recovering from flooding caused by the slow-moving hurricane, Auman said. "We've had so much impact on the Everglades as human beings that we have hampered its ability to bounce back from big events like this."

The storm's changes also can affect animal life.

Beach mice in Florida's Panhandle become easy targets for predators in flattened areas. But new dunes might shield beaches from lights that confuse sea turtles when they come ashore to lay eggs and their babies after hatching, said Seth Blitch, a biologist who is the head of the Apalachicola National Estuarine Research Reserve.

Hurricane Charley, the biggest storm to hit Florida in more than a decade, made significant changes to southwest Florida's beach landscape in August. Charley sliced the barrier island of North Captiva in half, creating a new inlet joining the Gulf of Mexico and Pine Island Sound.

Charley's wind and rain also likely stirred up old debris and pollutants, which could hurt the environment, said Hans Paerl, professor of marine and environmental science at the University of North Carolina.

"A lot has to do with the frequency of these hurricanes, too," he said. "If you get three or four hurricanes right in a row, probably the second or third are more beneficial because they bring in cleaner water" after sediments and old debris are flushed out by the earlier storm.

Frances' impact is yet to be determined, but Westphal said the environment will be fine.

"Nature will go back into a balance," she said. "It will just not be what humans are used to. Humans don't like change. Nature doesn't mind, it just balances itself out."



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Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.







Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/scienc...t.ap/index.html



Loooks like Hurricanes do some benefits.... Nature's way to tell us to stop messing around with what we shouldn't, or else.. We get bombared by hurricanes.


Posted by _Nut_ on Sep-06-2004 20:07:

Here is the current 5 day outlook for Ivan






This is an infrared image of the hurricane. Warmer colours (ie reds) show the colder area's of the cloud tops. The colder area's represent the strongest updrafts within the hurricane. Where you see the red is generally the most intense portion of the hurricane, where strong winds, heavy rain and even the patch tornado occur.


Winds are currently at 115 mph making it a lower category hurricane. The winds have decreased some since yesterday and more degenertion is anticipated for the next 24 hours or so. Hurricane force winds (74 mph or greater) are extending 35 miles from the center, and tropical storm force winds (74 mph and below) extend upto 115 miles from the center. But after the next 24 hours there may be some regeneration. So keep current with it! Hopefully this will not be a record for our weather books in seeing 3 or more cat 3 or high hurricanes hit the southeast.


Hopefully this is useful/helpful to some. Any questions please ask me!

Your resident TA meteorologist


(PS if the pictures dont show up, just right click and 'show image' and it should appear.)


Posted by arturob on Sep-09-2004 11:33:



wtf????????????? is that turn??? unreal... fuck.

ivan is now cat 5 with winds of 160mph...


Posted by DarkAngel on Sep-09-2004 12:12:

Looks like Ivan wants to finish the job Frances started. Godfuckindamnit.


Posted by LiquidX on Sep-09-2004 12:27:

The 8 AM advisory has the projected path on the Gulf Of Mexico.. ofcourse, FLorida and Bahamas are still on the yellow margin of error.. 160 .. Sick.. I heard there are gusts of even 200 ..


Posted by rounder19 on Sep-09-2004 14:35:

real fucking cool


Posted by bobba lou on Sep-09-2004 17:06:

the keys are evacuating starting today....


all gusets by today


residents and RV's by tomorrow.


Posted by DarkAngel on Sep-09-2004 17:16:

After what i just went through yesterday, I'm even less worried about this bloody storm. Only concern of mine is losing power like last time.


Posted by Dj Daeron on Sep-09-2004 18:32:

We still don't have power here. The power company said it will be Tuesday before we get electric. At that rate, if Ivan hits, it might as well stay off.


Posted by DarkAngel on Sep-09-2004 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Daeron
We still don't have power here. The power company said it will be Tuesday before we get electric. At that rate, if Ivan hits, it might as well stay off.


That suckx, man.


Posted by LiquidX on Sep-09-2004 19:18:

If it were to hit the west coast.. We would still get the BAD side of the storm ( right is always the worst ) .. Frecking Cool ah?


Posted by trancebrat on Sep-09-2004 20:28:


Posted by DarkAngel on Sep-09-2004 20:38:

Oh, great.


Posted by XxGrOoVeERICxX on Sep-09-2004 23:18:

Third time is a charm?




This sucks!


Posted by Poyson IV on Sep-09-2004 23:52:

today i ran into the news lady from channel 51 (a spanish channel)and she did all the coverage for hurricane francis. She says that ivan isnt coming. She says all the english channels wana hype it up. She said John Morales- their weather guy- knows his stuff and he said its not coming either. Let's cross our fingers, cuz i just got my power back 2nite and like eric said- 3rd time is usually the charmer....


Posted by Bling on Sep-10-2004 00:08:

ugh . though so true about right side of storm..... everyone stay safe..........




from your words to god's ears miriam. hopefully it doesnt hit us


Posted by DarkAngel on Sep-10-2004 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Poyson IV
today i ran into the news lady from channel 51 (a spanish channel)and she did all the coverage for hurricane francis. She says that ivan isnt coming. She says all the english channels wana hype it up. She said John Morales- their weather guy- knows his stuff and he said its not coming either. Let's cross our fingers, cuz i just got my power back 2nite and like eric said- 3rd time is usually the charmer....



That's one hell of a conspiracy theory, but I really hope it's true. I can't take being without power for 2 days again.


Posted by Zewad on Sep-10-2004 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Poyson IV
today i ran into the news lady from channel 51 (a spanish channel)and she did all the coverage for hurricane francis. She says that ivan isnt coming. She says all the english channels wana hype it up. She said John Morales- their weather guy- knows his stuff and he said its not coming either. Let's cross our fingers, cuz i just got my power back 2nite and like eric said- 3rd time is usually the charmer....


i hate to burst their bubble, but these guys know the most.... i trust them over anybody... and they too are wrong a lot...
www.nhc.noaa.gov


Posted by nrjizer on Sep-10-2004 01:13:

updated track:



(not my pic, credit to whoever's it is)


Posted by _Nut_ on Sep-10-2004 01:18:

Also.... what you see on TV 80% of the time... is a pretty face and no brains.

Ivan will hit the US coast (i am myself a meteorologist by degree)

The questions is what sort of power it will have when it does hit. First, it is a category five right now... but it is losing intensity because it is passing over parts of the ocean that is shallow.. and shallow waters do not supply the needed heat to sustain and keep a hurricane alive. Second, it will lose alot of power when it crosses cuba. Land is not conductive in hurricane sustainability. My estimates as well as hurricane model product estimates, is that it will be a borderline cat 2 - cat 3 when it hits the US.


Where will it hit??? That is the question. since it is still 5 days out the path can vary greatly.


This is the latest model run from the Navy Hurricane models (and it is almost exact to the national hurricane centers model runs)



Posted by cybaix on Sep-10-2004 01:41:



Say hello to my little friend.


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