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For those who think September 11 is "over," this is a good article to read.

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September 10, 2004, 7:02 a.m. The Unfathomable Human Toll The savagery, in parts. Rich Lowry, National Review http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry...00409100702.asp 19,915. 9,429. 10,486. These are some of the most telling numbers related to Sept. 11. They are, respectively, the number of human remains recovered from Ground Zero, the number of remains identified with one of the 2,752 victims, and the number of remains that are still unidentified to this day. DNA technology has basically vanquished the "unknown soldier," a staple of the war memorials of yore. It took 9/11 to revive a brutal version of that phenomenon: the "unidentified remains." They sit in trailers operated by the New York City medical examiner's office, visible off the well-trafficked FDR Drive, passed by thousands of unknowing motorists a day. They are a neglected reminder of the sheer savagery of the Sept. 11 attacks and the unfathomable human toll of that day. I talked to a retired fire marshal who was on morgue duty at Ground Zero in the months after the attack. He requested anonymity because he made a pledge with other rescue workers that they wouldn't talk to the press and possibly be made out as heroes when they were only doing their duty. "I never took a course in mortuary science," he says. "We just did it. Someone said: 'You guys, you guys, you guys. You're the morgue detail. OK?' 'OK.'" He and his colleagues saw things no one should see, a gruesome view of the worst attack on U.S. soil ever. "People don't know the horror, the real horror in this," he says. "They don't know what we saw. They don't even know most of the people are still at the medical examiner's office." Initially, recovery crews found mostly intact but crushed bodies. "That gave us false hope," he says. "We thought that is what people are going to look like." But those were the victims outside the building. The people trapped inside were caught in the tons of cascading steel and concrete, and were ground to bits, or to literally nothing. Recovery workers were grateful to find any body part, however small. "Usually in a morgue, you don't want to be busy," he says. "But when we had a slow day, it was horrible. It meant we weren't getting anyone back. We knew we had 3,000 people in there, and we needed to get them back." The possibility of giving a family a measure of finality by finding an identifiable remain was what made the work tolerable � barely. "That's the only thing that kept people from jumping in the Hudson River and swimming to New Jersey," he says. Care was taken to honor the dictates of human dignity among the carnage. "If we found a human remain," he says, "we put it on a gurney, we covered it with a flag, and we ceremoniously carried it out." The work went on and on and on. "They were finding remains up to the point we scooped the last bit of dirt up in June 2002," he says. The remains were sent to the city's medical examiner's office, where a heroic effort was undertaken to identify as many of them as possible. Initially, the office thought it would only analyze remains the size of a thumb or larger, but it ended up analyzing smaller parts too. It has stretched the limits of science, attempting to tease fragile DNA clues from decomposed shards of bone. The identifications have slowed considerably, but one was made as recently as Aug. 31, and five total were made in August. Each is a small moral victory, a triumph of respect for individuality in the face of indiscriminate murder. All the remains are being preserved for the day when technological advances will make more identifications possible. Eventually, they will be removed from the examiner's makeshift site � which includes a room where families can grieve and pray � and taken to the official 9/11 memorial at Ground Zero. For now, a mostly unremarked memorial sits in the city's midst, three years later. 19,915. 9,429. 10,486.

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Originally posted by Massive84 if you want to remember it, go cry in a corner about it like many said the world and this forum is not all about America, if you don't want to forget be my guest, not that many people care, and the ones that DO care are the ones you should corrsspond with, so yes the America forum on TA would be the best place.

Not many people care?...Isn't that hypocrytical? Everyone yaps and yaps about how other nations lose so many innocent lives yet American lives are uncared for?

And this would be the proper forum for it..considering 99.9% of the debates in this room are based on U.S. affairs!

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec What I find funny is how quicky that thread was closed. It was closed in a matter of minutes....like if it was going to cause an uproar on the forums in some form. With so many other threads all over this board causing flame wars and needing moderation...they run and close that thread. Quite frankly, If you dont want to take part of that thread...ignore and let it slip down. Dont post in it , if it offends you and your nation for some reason then just dont take part in it, but obviously posting in this thread shows the animosity some people have for the U.S. One thing I dont understand is with soooooo many threads available on this forum....threads in the music discussion, threads in the new releases, threads in the local forums, threads viewed everyone and sometimes misplaced sometimes in the wrong forum.....WHY POST in a thread that doesnt pertain to you? If you have a problem, dont post in it. Better yet, why not move the thread....closing it in a short span of time is a slap in the face. I understand a remembrance thread doesnt belong in this forum, but when some posters on this forum yell and write very offensive writing(no names), I see that more worthy of banning/closing. Like I said, 9/11 is not more special than any other national tragedy happening worldwide...but feel free to post any of them. I myself will not have any problem with it. Why? Because I have tolerance...something some ignorant people worldwide dont have or havent been taught. I understand this isn't a political/debate issue and doesnt belong in this forum, by why close it in a matter of minutes when you have Noobs in the music discussion always getting (posting nonsense about p2p programs,music dl sites, old subjects)flamed for many many pages without moderation. btw, this isnt a rep/dem issue, this is a nationwide remembrance and quite frankly it should hold true regardless who is in office. Im done posting today....utterly disgusted. My 2cents...

Funny thing about that topic is.

It is closed but not 1 moderator posted why he/she closed it.

I remember JayD saying once if a Mod closes a topic he/she always leaves a msg with the reasons, if not it is useually the topic starter that closed it.

Also, if that topic is closed, why is this one still open? i don't think any mod closed it but the topic starter him/her self, but i could be wrong.

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Originally posted by Massive84 Funny thing about that topic is. It is closed but not 1 moderator posted why he/she closed it. I remember JayD saying once if a Mod closes a topic he/she always leaves a msg with the reasons, if not it is useually the topic starter that closed it. Also, if that topic is closed, why is this one still open? i don't think any mod closed it but the topic starter him/her self, but i could be wrong.

The topic starter can not close a thread..he only delete it. So some mod definatley closed it.

Ironic thing about all this is....if i was to make a tribute thread on the lost lives in Rwanda, Grenada, Chile, Russia, El Savador, Spain, Japan, Germany, France, Cambodia, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Kosovo, Somalia or any other nation that lost innocent lives due to American interests it would be flooded with people attacking America on how it's foreign policy has killed so many innocent lives. Yet the second an American does it for his own people he gets shut down and told "forget it, move on, nobody cares or the US deserved it"

Seems like people in this forum are content with lost American lives.

Go figure!

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Originally posted by tiesto14 The topic starter can not close a thread..he only delete it. So some mod definatley closed it. Ironic thing about all this is....if i was to make a tribute thread on the lost lives in Rwanda, Grenada, Chile, Russia, El Savador, Spain, Japan, Germany, France, Cambodia, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Kosovo, Somalia or any other nation that lost innocent lives due to American interests it would be flooded with people attacking America on how it's foreign policy has killed so many innocent lives. Yet the second an American does it for his own people he gets shut down and told "forget it, move on, nobody cares or the US deserved it" Seems like people in this forum are content with lost American lives. Go figure!

I remember whiskers closed his Own post your picture topic, you can do it with your own topics, with the admin function button.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 The topic starter can not close a thread..he only delete it. So some mod definatley closed it. Ironic thing about all this is....if i was to make a tribute thread on the lost lives in Rwanda, Grenada, Chile, Russia, El Savador, Spain, Japan, Germany, France, Cambodia, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Kosovo, Somalia or any other nation that lost innocent lives due to American interests it would be flooded with people attacking America on how it's foreign policy has killed so many innocent lives. Yet the second an American does it for his own people he gets shut down and told "forget it, move on, nobody cares or the US deserved it" Seems like people in this forum are content with lost American lives. Go figure!

actually a thread starter CAN close his own thread...to some of the posters on here...wow..just wow not a sence of decency in u i c..the people that died r human beings and u should have the sence of decency to honour em...i bet if it was a thread for the spanish people that died in the recent terrorist act nobody will post such rubbish posts ..if you dont care dont post but dont insult people who r honoring those who past away..just get out of the thread...u should all be ashamed ASHAMED

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec What I find funny is how quicky that thread was closed. It was closed in a matter of minutes....like if it was going to cause an uproar on the forums in some form. With so many other threads all over this board causing flame wars and needing moderation...they run and close that thread. ...

As you noted it wasnt a political discussion - so if it was closed to stop an uproar, why has it turned into that?

Further more it seems to me that Americans want to act defensive on TA. Most of the time I dont see where that comes from. Just the fact that TAs are from a different country seems to spark ire and flame wars!

Guess what, the US makes up no more than 21.72% of the worlds population and that number is decreasing, so I cant fathom why there is so much bitching over internationals posting in what? Thats right- a Canadian forum!

I have never received anything but the utmost respect from international TAs when I treat them with the respect I think I deserve. Yet, the same is not true for US TAs. There is partisan bickering over the slightest unnecessary details - even when dissention isnt needed.

I dont doubt that 911 needs some sort of tribute (tho trancaholic is right tribute sounds dirty, like spectacle). But dont you think the date 9/11/01, 9 Sep 2001, 11.9.01, no matter however you arrange it will forever live in infamy? I think most people in the world understand what that means and that is tribute enough. Posting that stuff on the internet cheapens it - especially when you see some of the crap in the COR.

911 lives in infamy - because both sides acknowledge it. Terror and defeat on one side, Victory for jihad/Bin Laden (whatever that may be) on the other.

Seriously though, until Americans can grow up and listen and get some freakin thick skin this will forever happen. Not just on TA unfortunately|

I think along with Israelis on this board Americans probably have the thickest skin. Why do American's act so defensive? Could it be that 80% of the posts in the political forums have to do with either pointing out problems or degrading our country or leaders in some way? If every single topic was about bashing canadians I'm sure you would see many more get defensive about their country, as would any person when their own country is constantly attacked.

Do you honestly think we care what someone a few thousand miles away thinks of us, especially on an internet board? If all the American's were quiet about every post started in some way about our country, this would be a very quiet place.

a lot of things deserve rememberance and i believe it is acceptable to post on a message board about these dates and events. I'm sure a lot of celebrate your mother's birthdays, the rebirth of jesus christ, your country's day of pride as well as other dates. There is plenty of threads in this forum that i honestly couldn't care about, but i don't go in each to tell them that their time, effort, opinions and views are a burden to everyone else. I grieve 9/11 just as much as i will grieve the slaying of those in Russia. Is there even an ounce of "RIP" in this message board about ANY mass slayings, or is rememberance a burden for those that aren't directly affected?

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil I think along with Israelis on this board Americans probably have the thickest skin. Why do American's act so defensive? Could it be that 80% of the posts in the political forums have to do with either pointing out problems or degrading our country or leaders in some way? If every single topic was about bashing canadians I'm sure you would see many more get defensive about their country, as would any person when their own country is constantly attacked. Do you honestly think we care what someone a few thousand miles away thinks of us, especially on an internet board? If all the American's were quiet about every post started in some way about our country, this would be a very quiet place.

Well I get your point, there is a conundrum when the US is involved in a majority of political action, yet our actual population does not make for majority involvement.

I stand by the thick skinned remark, but perhaps more of what I meant was that, due likely to the 'independent spirit' of Americans we see any criticism as a personal attack. If 80% of the thread here criticize the US, how come most Americans here cannot criticize international politics to the degree that internationals can criticize (or at least bring up and discuss) OUR political actions? Again, its due to our vast influence. Our ignorance to the rest of the world is what is our main downfall- the world isnt getting bigger its getting smaller! And you said it yourself:

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Do you honestly think we care what someone a few thousand miles away thinks of us, especially on an internet board?

Well I care, sometimes. Sure its an internet board and the internet is 99% garbage. I think TA is in the upper echelon of internet sites though DUE to the fact we have such diverse ideas. If you, personally, dont care than I see no purpose for you contributing to a discussion -not that you cannot-. It just seems that if they dont care about you, and you them then why bother? America's unwillingness to acknowledge anyone other than ourselves is the endemic problem I am trying to reach through this post. That viewpoint is bullshit, and if we keep following it its going to bite us in the ass, and likely soon.

We hold ourselves as the richest and most powerful nation in the world. Richest we are not, especially per capita. And as far as most powerful - perhaps - but I believe that also makes us most rash nation to act on the planet. Since we became the singular superpower we have actually decreased our share in ownership of the worlds resources and influence. With every dollar and stock share that gets purchased (by China, for example) because no US citizen could buy it - sends our influence overseas. If our economy struggles- who will be holding the reins?

Pretending that we hold priority in the world is fitting (sometimes). To assume we can continue to ignore the world is horseshit|

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Originally posted by biznology Well I care, sometimes. Sure its an internet board and the internet is 99% garbage. I think TA is in the upper echelon of internet sites though DUE to the fact we have such diverse ideas. If you, personally, dont care than I see no purpose for you contributing to a discussion -not that you cannot-. It just seems that if they dont care about you, and you them then why bother? America's unwillingness to acknowledge anyone other than ourselves is the endemic problem I am trying to reach through this post. That viewpoint is bullshit, and if we keep following it its going to bite us in the ass, and likely soon.

Yes sometimes I do wonder why I even bother to debate anything. Debating just seems to be multiple opinions on a single topic by people who never budge anyways. Is the point of the debate to prove a point or to sway the other side because some topics on here are very subjective? I post typically when I see there is a definite right or wrong on a subject that I am interested in, hence why I ignore the majority of topics in the PF.

I don't think not caring about the rest of the world is necessarily self centered or American as you seem to put it. I like knowledge, I read up on the world, but having all the knowledge in the world doesn't mean you necessarily have to care about what is happening. I put priority in the US because I live here and I don't think I should be at fault for doing so.

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We hold ourselves as the richest and most powerful nation in the world. Richest we are not, especially per capita. And as far as most powerful - perhaps - but I believe that also makes us most rash nation to act on the planet. Since we became the singular superpower we have actually decreased our share in ownership of the worlds resources and influence. With every dollar and stock share that gets purchased (by China, for example) because no US citizen could buy it - sends our influence overseas. If our economy struggles- who will be holding the reins? Pretending that we hold priority in the world is fitting (sometimes). To assume we can continue to ignore the world is horseshit|

Richest we are not, however the largest spenders and consumers on the planet we are. Most powerful in terms of buying, spending, and military power? I'd say so. I don't know about acting rash, what is there to base this on other than Iraq? We went into Afghanistan months after being attacked ruthlessly, went into WWII after years of being neutral, same with WWI, went into Desert Storm 1 only after Kuwait was attacked, went into the Koreas after the South was Attacked. People may view our trade policies as rash but our first priority should be to our own people, not to some slave trade owner 5000 miles away who sells goods cheap because of cheap labor. I don't think we are rash at all in our history unless you say this based on a single event.

It is inevitable that China will be a superpower, we shouldn't hold them back from becoming one. They already have a large military, the largest population, and a economy booming at unprecidented rates. I am actually surprised they weren't at this rate years ago. The world is moving more toward a global economy. India and China are both increasing exponentially, Europe is attempting to be more unified and push their trade weight around, the dollar is below the pound and euro, all the world's economies are tied together more than ever. If Japan doesn't get oil and their market crashes for example the entire world will feel it, not just Japan.

I think we are in this position due to the past though and that the world has looked to the US for help not only militarily but for our spending power, aid, and other structural help. We have largely been placed in this position by other countries needing things, not global imperialism only as people like to see it.

Biz and Neal....i can honestly say the little debate you two have going on right now is one of the most positive ones i have seen on TA in a long time. Very well worded and respectful towards each others opinions. I just felt like i needed to tell you guys that.

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Biz nice to hear (or see) your opinions again...i think the last time i saw you discuss was in the Chill Out Room before Political Room was created years back...nice to see ya bro!! All we need now is ATBsportline (sp?) to come back....where the hell has he beed for the past 2 years...lol

Yeah, why was it closed? Conspiracy man! Let's find out who's behind this!

Let's be realistic though, if a moment of silence helps anybody, please let me know. If a prayer helps anybody, that's your thing, I don't discuss religion. I'm beyond that now. If a post saying "I feel sorry for those who died on the 11th of Sept." or anything of that sort will help you, then you might get it.

Every single human counts. I feel for every person who dies. Not beceause it's on a massive level like "9/11" but because it's troubling to think that today we still try to solve issues by eliminating the enemy or that which we might consider the enemy. What a world.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil I hate this political correct crap. Just because someone wants to remember a day that is important in their country they have to remember every event from every country in the world? Thats just absurd. Sorry but 9/11 hits home to Americans more, because we live here. We don't know what is happening in Rwanda firsthand or Sudan. If there is a Sudanese man or a Russian who wants to put forth memory for those lost in the school tradgedy we wouldn't hold anything against them. And about it getting old, we do this so we DON'T FORGET, thats the whole point. You want this moment burned in your brain so you know what it feels like and it never happens again. Maybe you need someone to drive up to your house and blow your family up for you to understand. Geez if people don't like the thread then don't read it and let it die out, locking it was just wrong.

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If you don't want to take part in the tribute, move along and STFU. We live here, it means more to us. You act as if we completely ignore world events. I personally would post in a tribute to the Russian hostage situation too, as well as this, as well as any major event in which lives were lost. Quit over analyzing all this and fucking move on with your day. I don't understand how a lot of you don't have more important things to do except bashing a tribute thread. So many damn pathetic people.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Biz and Neal....i can honestly say the little debate you two have going on right now is one of the most positive ones i have seen on TA in a long time. Very well worded and respectful towards each others opinions. I just felt like i needed to tell you guys that. P.S. Biz nice to hear (or see) your opinions again...i think the last time i saw you discuss was in the Chill Out Room before Political Room was created years back...nice to see ya bro!! All we need now is ATBsportline (sp?) to come back....where the hell has he beed for the past 2 years...lol

Yes, ABT (not ATB ) is one of the greater losses TA ever endured. I really miss him.
As to the posts of biznology and badNeil, I agree: It's an example to be followed, but I don't think that their behaviour is that revolutionary. Both of them have posted excellent posts before, and both of them seem to be calm individuals. In this thread I agree with biznology, though.

And, to those of you that compare this "tribute" thread to remembering victims from the russian shool or the Madrid bombings, please bear in mind that those events are much more recent than the attacks in New York and Washington. Riding along that reasoning, I think that any thread which has as topic the recent slaying of some group of people (be that a couple of americans hanged from a bridge, some russian school children, or a few thousands of sudanese people) is warranted, but a thread which has as topic some event which happened years ago, and where no new information has surfaced does not belong in the political forum.

I reckon he closed his own thread maybe by accident, that would be nothing new

To the slovenian guy, so are you telling me that I should forget the people who died for my freedom in WWII? because I need to move on. Your logic imo is completely flawed, 2900 people died on that day because they were Westerners in a cowardly attack on the USA. Notice that Bin Laden is such a chicken shit that he has to hide in the mountains in the middle of nowhere, he does not have enough guts to face up or fight for what he believes in, it is all hit and run. I'm sorry but I'm never going to forget 9/11, even being Canadian, I was still affected, my country's liberty was still affected as well, we still lost people in the towers. I don't get why anyone would make light of what happened and why should we forget, so we should move on and forget it ever happened?. I'm all for moving on but what's wrong with remembering the people who died in 9/11 once a year, heck we do it on November 11th and no one seems to go on about it. Every year on November 11th, the people in the legion hall near my house, I go over and hang out with them and any people that I know who served in WWII, I thank them for my freedom, sure I was born several decades later but I'm still going to reflect on November 11th. I think it is weak that people want others to move on and forget about it, of course the Russian kids dying was pathetic as well but they should not be forgotten either.

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Originally posted by trancaholic Yes, ABT (not ATB ) is one of the greater losses TA ever endured. I really miss him. As to the posts of biznology and badNeil, I agree: It's an example to be followed, but I don't think that their behaviour is that revolutionary. Both of them have posted excellent posts before, and both of them seem to be calm individuals. In this thread I agree with biznology, though. And, to those of you that compare this "tribute" thread to remembering victims from the russian shool or the Madrid bombings, please bear in mind that those events are much more recent than the attacks in New York and Washington. Riding along that reasoning, I think that any thread which has as topic the recent slaying of some group of people (be that a couple of americans hanged from a bridge, some russian school children, or a few thousands of sudanese people) is warranted, but a thread which has as topic some event which happened years ago, and where no new information has surfaced does not belong in the political forum.

The description of the forum says the following

Where intellectuals meet to discuss their views and hope someone else agrees with them

I don't see where it says events from years ago cannot be discussed. I find people like you, really irritating because you seem to say that people can't talk about past events that affected their lives. You just don't get it because no one attacked your country, if it had happened you would be crying foul as well.

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Originally posted by torontotrance I reckon he closed his own thread maybe by accident, that would be nothing new

haha that would be quite funny actually after all this.

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Biz and Neal....i can honestly say the little debate you two have going on right now is one of the most positive ones i have seen on TA in a long time. Very well worded and respectful towards each others opinions. I just felt like i needed to tell you guys that.

Thanks. As someone else noted, we aren't doing anything revolutionary, I try my best to avoid personal attacks, try to form well rounded opinions or facts when possible and it goes a long way. If the name calling and personal attacks in the PF were gone it would be a much better place.

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Originally posted by torontotrance I reckon he closed his own thread maybe by accident, that would be nothing new To the slovenian guy, so are you telling me that I should forget the people who died for my freedom in WWII? because I need to move on. Your logic imo is completely flawed, 2900 people died on that day because they were Westerners in a cowardly attack on the USA. Notice that Bin Laden is such a chicken shit that he has to hide in the mountains in the middle of nowhere, he does not have enough guts to face up or fight for what he believes in, it is all hit and run. I'm sorry but I'm never going to forget 9/11, even being Canadian, I was still affected, my country's liberty was still affected as well, we still lost people in the towers. I don't get why anyone would make light of what happened and why should we forget, so we should move on and forget it ever happened?. I'm all for moving on but what's wrong with remembering the people who died in 9/11 once a year, heck we do it on November 11th and no one seems to go on about it. Every year on November 11th, the people in the legion hall near my house, I go over and hang out with them and any people that I know who served in WWII, I thank them for my freedom, sure I was born several decades later but I'm still going to reflect on November 11th. I think it is weak that people want others to move on and forget about it, of course the Russian kids dying was pathetic as well but they should not be forgotten either.

Not all of the killed were westerners... seeing as it was the WORLD trade centers.. a large portion of the dead were international workers...even muslims

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Originally posted by torontotrance I don't see where it says events from years ago cannot be discussed. I find people like you, really irritating because you seem to say that people can't talk about past events that affected their lives. You just don't get it because no one attacked your country, if it had happened you would be crying foul as well.

See TTA this is where you are wrong...we can discuss past events that affect people's lives.....just so long as those people where the victoms of injustice at the hand's of the American government.

I guarantee if i made a thread to tribute the people of Iraq, Cambodia, Vietnam, or any other nation that lost lives due to American wars etc...then people whould have a field day with it in here...

Eh i said it 3 years ago...and i will say it today....there are a lot of anti-American TAs that will flame America no matter what we do.

Case in point JohnSmith (Canadian)...this tosser ranted on and on about America last year. he went so far as to say he was protesting against America and would not drive his car ..forgot why...it had to do with his car being connected to America or gas from America..or some weird shit. He posted on and on about his disgust for America and refused to use ANY American products or services (As if his lack of contribution to the American economy would have an affects ) He even made a protest America web page that he told everyone about.

Anyway the funny thing was he claimed to protest America by not driving his car (again forgot why)...but this kids freaken web-site was hosted on an American web-server that he PAYED for...LOL

People here talk tolerance...sure so long as it's not for Americans///remember we are the evil ones...

Wow I was only gone for a day and this there has been much flame about the thread.

So now I will answer the question.

Who closed the thread? I did. I made it and closed it within minutes. Because the other day in the library, I was reading something about 9/11, when this guy came up to me, and said "you guys deserved it" I hit him in the face and left.

Made me pissed for the next few hours, and looking at how simple threads on these boards can turn into hellholes where people goatfuck each others comments, i closed it so no crap like "you deserved it", "its bushs fault" comes up. it was just a simple thing for someone to view and reflect on throughout the day.

so there, answers your questions.
Meanwhile, someone coulda just made another one anyways!

(im still somewhat troubled as how I can close it but can reopen it. ????)

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Originally posted by policerobots Wow I was only gone for a day and this there has been much flame about the thread. So now I will answer the question. Who closed the thread? I did. I made it and closed it within minutes. Because the other day in the library, I was reading something about 9/11, when this guy came up to me, and said "you guys deserved it" I hit him in the face and left. Made me pissed for the next few hours, and looking at how simple threads on these boards can turn into hellholes where people goatfuck each others comments, i closed it so no crap like "you deserved it", "its bushs fault" comes up. it was just a simple thing for someone to view and reflect on throughout the day. so there, answers your questions. Meanwhile, someone coulda just made another one anyways! (im still somewhat troubled as how I can close it but can reopen it. ????)

haha
No only a mod can reopen it..but it's a bit late now, untill next year.

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Originally posted by torontotrance I find people like you, really irritating because you seem to say that people can't talk about past events that affected their lives.

But if you want to talk about your psychological problems stemming from some event, why do it in the political forum? What's wrong with chill out or the local area forums?

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Originally posted by torontotrance You just don't get it because no one attacked your country, if it had happened you would be crying foul as well.

If I just don't get it because of my lack of US nationality, why then don't you agree that the thread should belong in the local area forum?

Hahaha, it did seem kinda odd to me that the original tribute thread was closed within minutes, while this second one's been going on for days. Well, that explains it now.

Anyway, while I don't really care about tribute threads and I agree that it's kinda pointless to post in them, if someone really wants to open one, it's fine by me as long as it isn't spamming.

hehe, funny thread.

If it was actually closed by a mod i would disagree with it. It wouldnt be the first thread that wasnt exactly on subject in this forum, so it would have been kinda disrespectful. though i dont think it has anything to do in this forum.

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