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no point in discussing politics with bush lemmings. good luck liquidx! i'm out.

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Originally posted by imokruok It shocks me that people here can't take two seconds to actually read what the AWB actually did.

That's your average American.
Just like they vote for somebody who wants to cut their taxes
They're not gonna take two seconds to know more about it.

i'm in the process for applying for a firearm license, in this case, a Smith & Wesson .357 Revolver. I've shot Semi Automatic assault weapons and thats some crazy shit! Rest assured i wont be getting any of those - i dont think they allow those in the shooting ranges

>JM<

This was a relatively useless law that mainly only banned certain cosmetic features like bayonet lugs.

I haven't heard of too many drive by bayonetings either lately myself.

The public seems to be quite ignorant of what this law actually bans, and that could explain why some 80% of Texans in a recent poll by the Dallas Morning News even supported it.

It's also worth noting that former President Reagan lobbied for this ban.

Once the ban took effect though, you could still easily get hi-cap mags, and they only cost a bit more.

The Bushmaster rifle - a civilian version of the M16- that Lee Malvo used to murder people in the DC area was still legal under this ban.

If you put two pre and post ban ar-15 style rifles side by side, you could hardly tell the difference between the two.

Well, I believe that Police Officers have a bit more knowledged then anyone posting here, of what this ban ment to them, what numbers show, and how massacres and mudering actually decreased once this ban took effect. Reagn lobbied for this, because, if anyone could remember, he was almost killed, there was the San Diego inicident, as well the law firm incident.. but hey, yes, there's no meaning on banning any weapon, is useless.. so just, get the ban out,and just make them all legal, doesnt make a difference.

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Originally posted by LiquidX Well, I believe that Police Officers have a bit more knowledged then anyone posting here, of what this ban ment to them, what numbers show, and how massacres and mudering actually decreased once this ban took effect. Reagn lobbied for this, because, if anyone could remember, he was almost killed, there was the San Diego inicident, as well the law firm incident.. but hey, yes, there's no meaning on banning any weapon, is useless.. so just, get the ban out,and just make them all legal, doesnt make a difference.

While I do think your argument is fairly plausible, I also won't dismiss the police officers playin' a little politics either. If I'm not mistaken, don't the majority of police officers support the Democratic ticket? Is there a union for the police?

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Originally posted by DaveSZ This was a relatively useless law that mainly only banned certain cosmetic features like bayonet lugs. I haven't heard of too many drive by bayonetings either lately myself.

Other "cosmetic" features include things like flash suppressor http://encyclopedia.thefreedictiona...sh%20suppressor

The gun industry is guilty of evading the spirit of the law that tried to reduce the amount of military style weapons on the streets. Instead of doing nothing Congress should have updated the law to address these loop holes.

At worst you could say the law didn't help much, but it sure as hell didn't make the situation worse or take away the right to bear arms (god forbid). The only thing it has hurt it the profits of the greedy gun industry that doesn't about public safety.

Can someone please explain to me why the law came with a 10-year expiration period? Is that an artifact of the US legislations system, or was it something that was invented for this law?
To me it would seem more sensible to have a law until it is revoked by a majority vote, rather than until a set period of time has passed

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Originally posted by igottaknow Other "cosmetic" features include things like flash suppressor http://encyclopedia.thefreedictiona...sh%20suppressor The gun industry is guilty of evading the spirit of the law that tried to reduce the amount of military style weapons on the streets. Instead of doing nothing Congress should have updated the law to address these loop holes. At worst you could say the law didn't help much, but it sure as hell didn't make the situation worse or take away the right to bear arms (god forbid). The only thing it has hurt it the profits of the greedy gun industry that doesn't about public safety.

I suppose we will see if its expiration has any overall effect on crime, but I somehow doubt it will.

Great! I might go out and buy an Uzi! How much do they run these days?

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Originally posted by smokeape Great! I might go out and buy an Uzi! How much do they run these days? [[[smoke]]]

here ya go. hope you got some cash saved up.http://www.impactguns.com/

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Originally posted by Q5echo here ya go. hope you got some cash saved up.http://www.impactguns.com/

Yes, you can go buy an Uzi. But as I said before, the AWB had absolutely no effect on automatic weapons. You could have bought an Uzi last year. You just have to go through the tedious process of getting a "Class 3" firearms license. Money, background checks, and periodic visits from the ATF. Good luck.

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Originally posted by trancaholic Can someone please explain to me why the law came with a 10-year expiration period? Is that an artifact of the US legislations system, or was it something that was invented for this law?

The 10-year period is not an automatic feature on all US laws, but time periods are often tacked on. For example, the Bush tax cut plan has a 10-year period as well. If it's not renewed in 10 years, taxes go back to what they were on the day before the law was signed.

Often, a time frame is added to a law as a bargaining chip. Say two Democrats are right on the edge of voting for a Republican tax plan. The Republicans will add the 10-year provision as the final bargaining chip to get the Democrats to vote for it. Then the Republicans are happy because the bill gets passed, and the Democrats can tell their supporters that even if the law doesn't work out, it will go away eventually.

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Originally posted by Q5echo here ya go. hope you got some cash saved up.http://www.impactguns.com/

Damn, $6,500 for an Uzi and an unfathanable sum of $15K for an M16? I'd be better off buying direct from Iraq or Afghanistan.


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imokruok: Thanks for the info.

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Originally posted by smokeape Damn, $6,500 for an Uzi and an unfathanable sum of $15K for an M16? I'd be better off buying direct from Iraq or Afghanistan. [[[smoke]]]

You can just go to your local "seedy part of town" and pick one up for around $1500.

None of you bleeding heart liberals know wtf you're talking about!




It's all about the HK, baby!

http://www.hkpro.com/hk21e.htm

Now, get out of my way!

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil You can just go to your local "seedy part of town" and pick one up for around $1500.

http://armaworld.com/detail.asp?id=1013

Firepower

Click Here for video of HK21E

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil You can just go to your local "seedy part of town" and pick one up for around $1500.

Thanks. I'd like to get one of those Bushmasters the DC sniper used. Looked like it would take down a deer or a squirrel pretty easy.

Lol!!!!

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Originally posted by smokeape Thanks. I'd like to get one of those Bushmasters the DC sniper used. Looked like it would take down a deer or a squirrel pretty easy. Lol!!!!

This is what just caught my attention:



http://www.hkpro.com/gmg.htm

Click Here for video of GMG

Very cool. Check out the Atomic Cannon: http://www.vce.com/grable.html

(Click on the first video - Cannon Detonation. Awesome!)

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Originally posted by Trancer-X This is what just caught my attention:

drool

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Originally posted by Q5echo drool

Except the difference is that I WOULD ONLY use that for defense, not the preemptive attack BS in which the chickenhawks want us to engage.

I'd like one of these for the 4th of July!




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